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Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 27 Jun 11 at 01:30
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boring bit on now...................
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:20
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They havent gone and put you on telly have they?
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:20
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Was the Cee'd she was driving an auto - didnt seem to be any gearchanges being made.
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:20
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dont think she ever got out of first.
She was full of bull excrement that girl. I bet she cries if she breaks a nail.
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:21
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Maybe she does but id happily comfort her...
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:21
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>> Maybe she does but id happily comfort her...>>
Might be disappointed:
tinyurl.com/6fjkvfq
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>>She was full of bull excrement that girl. I bet she cries if she breaks a nail. >>
Any lassie that can handle a gun and do a lot of her own film stunts is hardly likely to worry about a broken fingernail.....
Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 00:21
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I suspect she may well have been a bit untruthful.
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>> Was the Cee'd she was driving an auto - didnt seem to be any gearchanges
>> being made.
I think it was an auto, I could not see any gear changes being made and I commented this to our lass who was also watching.
I seem to remeber that the large chap who does ITV football "entertaiment" programmes, who mouthed off at some celeberty event recently also cannot drive a manual but was given a manual chevy when he was on SIARPC and seemed to manage that ok also Jonny Vegas who cannot drive also had a manual
SO they must have two versions of the C'eed becasue im sure Camreon Diaz commented on the "English Gears" when she was on and thus now give the auto to a) Americans a) Auto users.
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I suspect they have two manauls and one auto. I guess after use they have to change the clutch and maybe brakes because you can imagine the amount of hammering they get.
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>>I guess after use they have to change the clutch and maybe brakes because you can imagine the amount of hammering they get.
Probably not. My Pride gets hammered like that (and worse). I put new pads on it four years ago when I got it and it's still on its original clutch (AFAIK).
Whey hey! It passed its MOT this PM. Fifty quid four years ago, I love unpopular cars, pity they don't work out for Stu.
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>> SO they must have two versions of the C'eed
They've previously had more than one car.
When Mansell drove the Liana, at least 2 different number plates were shown during the filming of his lap(s).
Also, when David Soul broke the Liana, they got the other one out, and IIRC, he also broke that one as well.
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I clicked it was an auto when there wasnt a hint of wheelspin off the line.
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You can wheelspin an auto - it just takes a bit more effort and less mechanical sympathy.
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6 thousand revs in neutral, just snick the lever into drive should do it.
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The manual wheelspins most weeks which is why it was obvious it was an auto this week.
Course if you follow Zero's method, theres always a 7-year warranty...
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Hey I didnt say you could do it twice.
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One of the worst episodes of recent times. Even on iPlayer it was unbearable.
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>> One of the worst episodes of recent times. Even on iPlayer it was unbearable.
In order of interest to me
1) The BMW M3 vs Audi Feature
2) The Snowplow/Combine thing
Everything else not slightly in intrested in, and I dont care how attractive the "star" is, its still a boring feature, but I watched it anyway (as I do with the majority of them) as I was comfy on the sofa and already had a cold drink poured
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It was deffo the worst episode so far, I was rather bored by it although JC creeping all over the girl who had zero interest in him was a highlight, she was a good sport.
Can I just declare a total non-interest in performance saloons - they are so dull unless your driving one! How many more M3 segments will be have inflicted on us?
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>> Can I just declare a total non-interest in performance saloons
The M3 and RS5 they had were coupes though ;-) I know what you mean though.
Last edited by: rtj70 on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 17:14
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Coupes - 2dr saloons ya mean. That new fangled Peugeot thingy, now thats a coupe.
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The use of farm vehicles as snowplows actually seemed like a good idea... pity the section on it lasted 15 mins too long...
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I still think that my suggestionm using GB's previous life, of having a challenge to load and unload a transporter full of different shaped vehicles could be made entertaining, in a TG sort of way!
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>> The use of farm vehicles as snowplows actually seemed like a good idea... pity the
>> section on it lasted 15 mins too long...
IIRC farmers were given a snowplough attachment for a tractor and paid a sum to clear local, rural roads. Is this no longer the case?
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>> Is this no longer the case?
Local council told farmers not to help out in case they damaged the roads or property. However when the last lot of snow ground Oxfordshire to a halt, they went begging to the farmers to help. I know of at least 2 farmers who told the council to go shove their own snow as they rejected their help previously. Some of the local farmers here are more experienced than the council's own employees.
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How does the damage work? I assume everything they damage is all scripted in and they don't really actually damage peoples property in that way. If what they did was real then it would be crinimal damage.
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Why can't Britain adopt a more German way of doing things ?
In Germany the local farmers have the gritting trucks and snow ploughs lent to them by the local council and the farmers are paid to clear the roads over the winter period.
Maybe it is a cost, pride and community spirit thing but in Germany people are proud to have their paths cleared and even clean their neighbours paths and road ways.
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>> Maybe it is a cost, pride and community spirit thing but in Germany people are
>> proud to have their paths cleared and even clean their neighbours paths and road ways.
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I have it on good authority that its a requirement that you keep the path outside your home in germany, clear of snow.
I didnt hear it from the BBC though, but a quick google search brings up this
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8443745.stm
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>> The use of farm vehicles as snowplows actually seemed like a good idea
Not cost effective though. It needs a 3 man crew (comprising of 3 lookalikes from Last of the Summer Wine), whereas the council vehicles are operated by one person.
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Well, as my 13 year old son said after watching this episode, "don't think we will bother keeping that on the Virgin+ Box", would never want to watch it again!"
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>> >> Can I just declare a total non-interest in performance saloons
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>> The M3 and RS5 they had were coupes though ;-) I know what you mean
>> though.
Just skipped through the programme on iPlayer. The M3/RS5 section was the only bit I sat through all of; love watching and hearing about those sort of cars. Closest I'll ever get to owning one :)
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I could not agree more, I watch the programme becasue I like to see cars of any type. But im not the slightest bit interested in some grinning blonde that I've never heard off, sit and waffle on for 10 min about nothing and then cane a Kia round a track.
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Damn it - I nearly part ex'd the X1 for an M3 after that....
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>> Damn it - I nearly part ex'd the X1 for an M3 after that....
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wouldnt bother, a Extra £3k for wheels, a button and some software upgrades
I dont think so.
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>> >> Damn it - I nearly part ex'd the X1 for an M3 after that....
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>> wouldnt bother, a Extra £3k for wheels, a button and some software upgrades
But that's for an M3 + competition pack - nowt wrong with the 'basic' M3, as they said in the programme.
Wonder what they'd give me for a Y reg Focus part ex?
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Dunno - but that slinky looking matt paint was a bit high maintenance...
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>> Dunno - but that slinky looking matt paint was a bit high maintenance...
...and expensive - £1700 wasn't it? More than my car's worth!
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Don't know nothin' and care about less but a matt black M3 might just make it into my lottery stable. Eclipsed though by an M5 touring in shiny black, a 911 in red, a.....
Snore....wassamatter ?
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The M5 might be a better steed..
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Has to be the Touring, a shooting brake is a gents car don't cha know.
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I wonder if BMW do a Shooting Brake pack ?
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>> I wonder if BMW do a Shooting Brake pack ?
An M5 Touring crossed with one of these would do the trick:
www.hollandandhollandoverfinch.com/
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What a gorgeously embarrassing car. An old school friend who now lives in Dubai has one very similar. I think he said it's a 5.0 petrol. Says it's just the ticket for a spot of dune bashing. Well, I say he's a friend but I secretly hate him really.
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Yeah, that's a real mock Tudor kind of car.
A surfeit of money coupled with lack of taste.
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I don't think he cares much what anyone thinks of him. He has a large free gratis company house on the beach just along from the Burj Al Arab, a house in London which he rents out and a flat in Moscow which he also rents out. A fat salary, a trophy wife, a company Range Rover and a company Discovery for his wife. See what I mean about hatred?
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Dont hate him, just pity him.
Anyway the mobs will be rampaging through his beach house and throwing shoes at his trophy wife shortly.
The Moscow flat and London house as well probably.
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Quite good tonight I thought. The Jagwaar was impressive, the old Porsche and Ferrari were interesting, Prescott made an ass of himself and the moon buggy was fascinating.
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I drove a mate's XJ last year (diesel). Superb car and even now he's still finding new features...:-)
Doesn't feel a "big" car in the sense of the S-Class and a delight to drive.
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>> The Jagwaar was impressive
Sounded great - that huge hunk of wood adorning the inside of the door made Clarkson look like he was sitting next to a sideboard. Lovely interior though, perfect for epic drives.
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I have a sneaky respect for Prescott (despite hating his politics) at least he's a genuine working class bloke that made it to the top through graft. I rather want one of those Jaguars......(off to count my pennies)
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Was trying to figure out the mpg on the Jag based on where he stopped but then thought better of it...
Glorious car.
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It is - they really deserve to do well. Confirmation tonight that there is an auto and manual version of the reasonably priced car.
There was a very good programme on Prescott - not sure if was broadcast nationally - it was one of those roots programmes (Wales has its own version of Who Do You Think You Are called Coming Home) - he comes from a dirt poor family - true victims of landed gentry exploitation.
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>> Confirmation tonight that there is an auto and manual version of the reasonably priced car
I was wondering that... it had the same registration (LC10 PHF) but was clearly an auto. Swapped numberplates perhaps?
With the old Liana they used a "spare" automatic car, with a different registration.
>> Maybe it was because he was on a public road being filmed for prime time TV at a guess
I wondered how he was going to average 62mph without exceeding 70. I noticed they were very careful not to show any speeding.
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I wondered how he would be better off in the supercharged car rather than the diesel. To average 62mph he'd need to break the 70mph limit on lots of roads. And the diesel could do that too. Although overtaking with the petrol car was ruthless the diesel probably would have been fast enough.
It was an excuse to show off a very good car - with a horrible looking rear. What were they thinking at JLR?
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>> To average 62mph he'd need to break the 70mph limit on lots of roads.
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Not sure about that. I can drive from Heerlen to Newcastle overnight and average 68mph without breaking the speed limit.
He did that journey overnight when there was relatively light traffic.
He did leave at 21:30 and arrive about 7 hours later.
That being said, this is Jeremy the POWWWWEEEERRRR! Clarkeson, not to be confused with the darts player, who has a smaller beer belly.
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>I wondered how he would be better off in the supercharged car rather than the diesel.
Mmm? Choice of a diesel or supercharged V8 petrol?
Can I think about that for a few nanoseconds.
Kevin...
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I know what you mean Kevin, I would have taken the diesel too and avoided messing about in the middle of the night looking for a gas 'n' go. :)
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He was making a program, and the Petrol sounded better.
Lovely noise too.
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That was good enough for me.........cracking sounding car, superb interior....just beautiful.
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We'll never know Z.
Not like we'll hear what a V6 184g/km diesel will sound like compared to a 289g/km petrol on TG. It's not as though the diesel hangs around 0-60 in 6, compared with 4.7 for the petrol. If you were serious about acceleration, you'd buy a diesel and have an R1 in the garage. It's game over by the time you hit 70 anyway. Ask MLC.
Last edited by: gmac on Sun 27 Feb 11 at 23:05
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I have been hitting 70+ every week. Certainly not game over here.
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>>the diesel probably would have been fast enough.>>
0-60 in 6.4 seconds. Effortless the way it does it too.
At least the rear is different and, what's more, it's a huge boot...:-)
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>> I was wondering that... it had the same registration (LC10 PHF) but was clearly an
>> auto. Swapped numberplates perhaps?
Just checked that reg number. It belongs to an auto Kia Ceed.
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Probably got further than a few of us would manage Humph.
Did anyone else notice how he came up behind the car with L plates and drove round the corner to find himself presented with an empty road....and he didn't boot it.
Last edited by: gmac on Sun 27 Feb 11 at 21:35
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Yeah, I noticed that. Maybe it was because he was on a public road being filmed for prime time TV at a guess...
:-)
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The new moon buggy was stolen from Space 1999
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>> The new moon buggy was stolen from Space 1999
Didn't like the look of it at all compared to the old one.
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>> Didn't like the look of it at all compared to the old one.
Well, Sean Connery drove the old one. Connery versus May - no contest :)
Last edited by: corax on Sun 27 Feb 11 at 21:51
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I had a model of the old one, with 4 wheel steering controlled by a central joystick-like thing. It was metal, and came as a kit IIRC. I loved things with 'reel' steering.
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Well maybe it was due to the couple of glasses of Merlot with dinner, but I fell asleep half way through Top Gear tonight. Saw the Porsche v Ferrari, saw the start of the Jaguar feature and woke up watching the moon buggy to then find it was the last in the series.
Quite appropriate I thought, it has obviously became a bit of a yawn for me! Thought this series has been very poor, z list celebs, poor challenges etc.
And, in my opinion anyway, Jeremy was looking particularly less enthusiastic this series?
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He'd buttoned up his jacket tonight in a rather self-concious way...
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He thought prescott was going to "connect"
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Excellent show tonight, all the way. Prescott was endearing, if slow round the track, and so was JC.
I noticed the presenters agree with me on the XJ's not-quite-right body though. Sure it's a fine road projectile but the XF is better looking and probably goes even better with the snorting-monster engine. Cheaper too no doubt.
I didn't think the owners would let the Stig cause radical wear to the Porsche 959 and the Ferrari, and they didn't. The 959 was developed out of the Dakar winning desert racer and is a good old starship. Obviously that Ferrari would be a nice motor, and may well be less valuable than the Porsche for once, but the Stig would have done its clutch in. Anyway they would have been afraid he would hit something and break the plastic.
Jaguar better for long-distance press-on than a big Merc... it wasn't that way round for ages. Glad it is now though.
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Anyone else notice the fat, loud-mouthed, bigot was, at one point, in lane three of an empty four-lane motorway?
I don't think much of Prescott either.
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Thinking about Prescott - he's a bit like Top Gear - as long as you remember that he's there for entertainment value and not for (in his case) political value then you can be OK with him.
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>> I noticed the presenters agree with me on the XJ's not-quite-right body though
That alternative design study (Bertone?) they showed on the screen was phenomenally good-looking IMO. XJ6 proportions with more than a hint of E-type about the rear.
Last edited by: Dave_TD {P} on Sun 27 Feb 11 at 23:19
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I agree that the Bertone project was a beautiful looking car and the colour was excellent too. I wonder if that will ever get into production?
It is going to be shown at the Geneva Motorshow, whenever this is.
Discussion here www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/tag/jaguar-xf/
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And on a different note... that Toyota Verso was a 53 reg and hasn't been sold for years.
John
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>> And on a different note... that Toyota Verso was a 53 reg and hasn't been
>> sold for years.
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>> John
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>>>>> maybe so but we all know someone who has had one and they do indeed look chumps driving them
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My goodness, that F40 is still a stunner. Last night's show did nothing to change my view that this gorgeous car would be my single daft purchase with a lottery win.
Harks back to a time when supercars were things that just yanked the heart strings and to hell with the head. Beautiful.
The 959 was an incredible technical achievement, but next to the F40.....yawn...
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Must be just me that thought the programme was a dire waste of an hour, seemed to be made up of left over clips bundled together.
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Either tape it or use iPlayer, J... Then you can use the ff button for most of it... don't worry you are not alone, though I did watch more of it than all the rest of the series... Just nosy to see what Prescott had to say for himself...
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Just for you DP, I have phhoned and reserved this for you.
You just need to turn up with your switch card :)
www.tomhartley.com/usedcar//FERRARI/Midlands-Derbyshire/16814403
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>> Just for you DP, I have phhoned and reserved this for you.
>> You just need to turn up with your switch card :)
It'll have to wait til Sunday morning, Bobby as I didn't win last night.
What a beautiful car. I just love the single mindedness of its design. Two chairs, a steering wheel, one of the finest engines ever built by the hand of man, wrapped up in Pininfarina penned, carbon crafted gorgeousness. Carpets? Airbags? Radio? For sissies.
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Interesting to see from that website how a used Enzo is now worth more than a Veyron, not sure how much the Enzo was at new.
They also have a one-off RHD Zonda that has £POA - don' t think they will do a swap for my Seat Altea!!
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www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12907367
Tesla suing them for false claims over their mileage limits.
Someone suing TG for factual inaccuracy???????
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Its all rather laughable, no doubt veiled references to electric cars will be part of the next series.
The idea that TG is somehow a factual TV prog is born out of the stupidity of the person saying it rather than any effort by TG to appear as such.
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Agree with you there Stu but the influence the show can have is very notable.
Remember when JC used to slate Vectras?
Go into any Skoda dealer and ask them for supply of a new Yeti - since TG road tested this with a helicopter landing on the roof, the sales have went through the roof!
Their test of a Fabia vrs vs (I think) a Mini Cooper influenced the Fabia sales dramatically.
OK, when they slag Richard for Porsche 911s, its not going to put Porsche out of business but when they test some cars and quote that they are woeful, terrible etc then that will have a major impact on that brand.
However as their road tests of bog standard cars are few and far between I can't see many more lawsuits coming their way unless the big boys start to get uneasy with their TG coverage.
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From what ive read, JC thinks rather too much is made of his ability to influence.
Sure they featured the Yeti, but it was an insane test done for amusement, it was just product placement for Skoda - Tesla were trying to do the same and if they thought that TG wouldnt do something entertaining with the cars, they were misinformed ( perhaps actually watch the show... ) - that they felt it was negative is rather subjective, it was amusing and anyone who wants to spend £90k on a milkfloat isnt likely to listen to TG.
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All I seem to recall Top Gear doing with a Tesla was showing if you drove it fast it ran flat quickly. Well you'd expect that. They have also highlighted how short the range of a Veyron would be if driven flat out too. They didn't get sued about that.
The problem with the Tesla and all pure electric cars is when you run out of power... you stop. But unlike a fossil fuel car you can't just pop with a can to get some more fuel. Which is why you need some form of generator for the electricity for any practical electric car.
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Which is why you need some form of generator for the electricity for any practical electric car.
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like the new Jag prototype
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like the new Jag prototype
Or the Eagle Thrust Hammerhead iGeoff, of course.
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You'd have thought Tesla would have been glad of a free plug.
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reet champion....as they say up t,north
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12957309
Right at the bottom though, so I'll paste it:
Meanwhile, Ofcom also cleared BBC Two's Top Gear after the hosts made fun of Mexican people for being "lazy".
The regulator said the comments were "based on negative national stereotypes and had the potential to be very offensive both to Mexican people specifically, as well as to viewers more generally".
But it said viewers would have been familiar with the show's "mocking, playground-style humour", adding that "to restrict humour only to material which does not cause offence would be an unnecessary restriction of freedom of expression".
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>> The regulator said the comments were "based on negative national stereotypes and had the potential
>> to be very offensive both to Mexican people specifically, as well as to viewers more
>> generally".
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>> But it said viewers would have been familiar with the show's "mocking, playground-style humour", adding
>> that "to restrict humour only to material which does not cause offence would be an
>> unnecessary restriction of freedom of expression".
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Blimey...that's a degree of common sense.
I actually thought the comments were cringeworthy, not funny and a tad over the top..however, i'd defend to the nth degree someone's right to mock as a means of humour...and not automatically be labelled racist/sexist/homophobic etc.
I'd like to think that the three presenters would look back at that scene and think "Hmm, we didn't get that one right"....i.e. learn and move on.
Who knows.
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