Evening all,
Take a gander at this:
(It says the clip is nearly seven minutes long, but you only need to watch about 30 seconds of it.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORKPh82yGU4
How on earth do you think the driver of this bus managed to do this? From an insider's point of view, I reckon he (or she!) swung out from behind the parked bus with only one hand on the steering wheel. He then lost his grip of the steering wheel, causing him to plough into the Porsche.
However it happened, it's hardly a glowing reference for the skills needed for the job...
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I think your hypothesis may fit - if in control of the vehicle this would never have happened. And even if not holding the wheel correctly, what about accelerator and brakes?
I hope nobody was injured!
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>>I hope nobody was injured!
I'm always careful to find out about injuries etc before I post links like this - as far as I'm aware there were no injuries requiring hospital treatment.
>>And even if not holding the wheel correctly, what about accelerator and brakes?
The time-scale involved is so minute that I'd imagine the driver had no time to adaquately correct his mistake before he connected with the Porsche.
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No one deserves to have their car smashed, but what pig-ignorant parking by the driver of the Porsche.
Facing the wrong way, on the pavement, in a bus stop, on a road that's narrow, and with buses parked on the other side.
Reminded me of one of the reasons I'm glad I no longer live in London.
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>> Reminded me of one of the reasons I'm glad I no longer live in London.
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I note that the camera was "Offence recording" another good reason not to live in the hell hole.
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If you look, I dont think the driver is moving, he seems to have had some kind of fit or seizure.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 08:32
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I've not viewed it in full screen, Z but that would make a lot of sense. If that was,what happened, then apologies to the driver for not researching thoroughly enough.
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About 10 years ago there was a fatal bus crash in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear, in which a bus shot off a stand and killed two pedestrians.
The driver was adamant he had done nothing to set the bus away, and there was a long inquiry into 'self acceleration' of buses.
From memory, one or two other incidents popped up from other parts of the country.
The inquiry was inconclusive.
The balance of the evidence remained in favour of pilot error, but a nagging doubt remained.
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Recent incident around my area (it's not the bus that had the "lucky escape", but the driver, passengers and other road users!):
www.southportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50453496
It's a main road in and out of the town (starts/ends just outside the boundary) and is normally very busy.
Last edited by: Stuartli on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 11:55
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>> Did you catch this Badwolf ?
I didn't, PU. Ta muchly for the link :-)
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Gosh, how awful. Look at what those people are wearing - I take it that these are "chavs"?
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Just a very humid hot London day in the middle fo the summer I would expect.
Don't look like proper chavs to me.
www.penguinsix.com/images/chav.jpg
It highlights the problem with automatics, maybe a Scannia truck system where you have a clutch pedal and have to ingage it into 1st before it becomes automatic would be a safer system.
That said these accidents are very rare. I've only ever seen one accident involving a bus, and that was in the trafford centre car park, a 306 went into the back of a Dennis Trident at about 5mph, the car was a right off, the bus didn't have a mark on it.
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You'd hope the camera operator would be sacked as well, after this - instead of looking at the scene to try to identify injured people, he points it off into the distance and then spends the next few minutes trying to look up skirts.
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>> You'd hope the camera operator would be sacked as well, after this - instead of
>> looking at the scene to try to identify injured people, he points it off into
>> the distance and then spends the next few minutes trying to look up skirts.
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Actually (in fairness) another car might have hit the camera pole, as it is panned back round (I assume not moving in the direction expected) you see a silver car 'underneath' the camera.
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is the camera on a pole? it does not seem to be very high - slightly higher than the passers by - but i cant seem to work out whats underneath it - is it a car? or mounted ontop of a car already?
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I couldn't fathom the dodgy camerawork, either.
Perhaps it's on the top of a police van.
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Its in or on a vehicle. Clue's? the picture is shaking slightly, (the engine is running) and it has GPS capability (not needed on a fixed camera)
The vehicle was moved out of the way when the accident happened. It may even be a bus lane camera fixed to a bus.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 13:29
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Nope - I know now, its a parking enforcement camera van. #
with the registration number KV07THM
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 21 Feb 11 at 13:33
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Seems logical that the van moved when the accident happened - it was filming the Porsche - focus' in on the VRM - when the camera tilts down you can see the roof of the van/car..
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Just re-viewed it - I reckon the CCTV van reverses off the road in the aftermath of the accident and the operator is too slow in re-focusing the camera...
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How the heck...? - rtj70
