Motoring Discussion > Councils Takeover Road Classification	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Bromptonaut	Replies: 20

Tue 1 Feb 11 10:48   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Bromptonaut

Dept for Transport to give councils power to reclassify roads from A - B. www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2011-02/ What do we think?? link amended at OP's request. Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 1 Feb 11 at 12:54 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 10:51   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Tooslow

I think it will be used to mis-direct traffic down the roads the council want us to use rather than the more major, wider, safer, quicker routes. There are already one or two places I can think of where a superior "B" road runs parallel, though a few miles away, from the corresponding "A" road. I'm thinking of North Devon. John Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 10:52   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Bromptonaut

Alterntaive link as the one I orginally posted maybe a subscription site. tinyurl.com/6z68a4k This link will take you to the same place the first one does Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 1 Feb 11 at 12:58 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 10:53   Councils Takeover Road Classification - R.P.

The French have done the same thing - Lots of what were N(National) routes become D(Department) routes - very confusing for the tourist with older maps ! All to do with who pays for what - look forward to current A roads becoming Bs and not being maintained to any acceptable standard. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 11:52   Councils Takeover Road Classification - bathtub tom

The mayor of Bedford seems to have a bee in his bonnet about making the high street a pedestrianised area. While it was an A road, it seems the highways agency had control of it and they wouldn't countenance such nonsense. It's now been re-designated. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 12:33   Councils Takeover Road Classification - FotheringtonTomas

The mayor of Bedford wants his head examining. Is that horrible sculpture still there in the High Street? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 13:51   Councils Takeover Road Classification - bathtub tom

Some people actually like it! It does grow on you if you have to live with it. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 13:53   Councils Takeover Road Classification - R.P.

Streetview has even fuzzed its face out...! Last edited by: Pugugly on Tue 1 Feb 11 at 13:53 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 1 Feb 11 14:01   Councils Takeover Road Classification - bathtub tom

Not on my version: tinyurl.com/6bmzzo5 Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 15:57   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Crankcase

The sculpture is not the only new thing since I was last there. E P Roses appears to have become a Debenhams, and there's no sign of Hockcliffe's in the High Street at all, never mind the Golden Egg opposite. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 2 Feb 11 17:43   Councils Takeover Road Classification - CGNorwich

"The French have done the same thing " Yes I noticed that in the summer. Best to navigate by towns and village names and ignore road numbers completely Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 2 Feb 11 15:58   Councils Takeover Road Classification - slowdown avenue

why would they want to this Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 2 Feb 11 16:01   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Tooslow

Makes DoT appear smaller, less costly? I wouldn't trust a council to run a whelk stall. John Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 15:09   Councils Takeover Road Classification - L'escargot

What effect on a road does its classification have? For example, are higher classified roads maintained better than lower ones? Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 15:37   Councils Takeover Road Classification - movilogo

>> What effect on a road does its classification have? I also wonder the same :-) Some A roads in Wales are similar to B roads in England. Some B roads in Wales are worse than single track unclassified roads in England. Some A/B roads in Cornwall/Devon are similar to A/B roads in Wales (i.e. not like other parts of England) Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 15:45   Councils Takeover Road Classification - madf

".3 How are the roads funded? For trunk routes (see 2.6 What is a 'trunk route'?), Central Government pays 100% of their maintenance costs. For roads maintained by local authorities, Central Government will pay 50% of the costs for A-roads and 30% for B-roads, with the remaining cost of these (and the entire cost of unclassified roads) met by the local authority itself." www.cbrd.co.uk/roadsfaq/#13 Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 16:08   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Bromptonaut

The introductory stuff to the DfT document is a good primer on the network and route/road classification. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 21:33   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Harleyman

>> Some A roads in Wales are similar to B roads in England. Some B roads >> in Wales are worse than single track unclassified roads in England. >> In fairness to the Welsh (and remember I not only live here but I'm on those roads every day) the roads down here are no worse than in England, and in some areas much better, especially in terms of quality of road surfacing. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 21:37   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Bromptonaut

>> In fairness to the Welsh (and remember I not only live here but I'm on >> those roads every day) the roads down here are no worse than in England, and >> in some areas much better, especially in terms of quality of road surfacing. On the Chester Wrexham Chirk road (A483?) you actually see the surface change at the border. The road was originally brushed concrete. The Welsh have resurfaced with much smoother and quieter asphalt; the English were too stingy. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 3 Feb 11 20:00   Councils Takeover Road Classification - slowdown avenue

theres a short A road near to me , 700 yards that links two other A roads. its not sign posted, its shown in red on my old maps. now has speed humps its whole distance. .on a bad day, school out time ,till 6.30pm it can take 13minutes to get out from. seriously, regularly. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 4 Feb 11 10:03   Councils Takeover Road Classification - Mike Hannon

The French system is the usual shambles - D road numbers can change at departement boundaries. If you are using D roads - and they are often high quality and much quieter - it is indeed best to navigate by town and village names and just check if the road numbers are slightly related. Mind you, if you want to see a really anarchic shambles, try negotiating a 'no priority' Italian roundabout. I'll never criticise the confusing two-rule French method again. Reply to this message | Report message