The various competitors' starting grids here - please input the basic information and add any additional costs or noteworthy events. Closing date is when the last car standing as and when the others have fallen by the wayside so to speak...!
Other members please don't post any comments in here use the other open threads so we can be as clutter free as possible.
I'll try and persuade Car4Play to stump up with a prize of sorts ! (notwithstanding Humph's Offer)
I've edited the entries in from the other thread I could find - tell me if I've missed any !
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Last edited by: Pugugly on Mon 17 Jan 11 at 14:13
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Nissan Primera 1.6
Purchased 16/01/2011 £500 80k miles
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Suzuki Wagon R 1.2
Bought 23/12/2010 £770 35k
Costs so far: £120 ( Welding and exhaust repair )
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KIA Pride, bought for fifty quid 27/02/07 (which is what the scrapyard offered for it and when he knew I wanted to use it on the road he didn't want anything). I'm so glad I paid for it, because he only lives round the corner!
Exhaust, disc pads and rear wheel bearing - the latter my fault because I didn't realise the O/S rear had a L/H thread - £150.
Subsequently, a new cam-belt and tensioner (I've seen 7200 on the rev counter) £50 and a new fan belt at the same time 'cos I thought it was worth it to have the old as a spare in the boot.
A couple of new tyres I bought for twenty quid to fit the wheels I found in a ditch ('onest officer) that I use for off-road.
A couple of new road tyres cost me fifty quid last year.
Apart from that, it's been oil, filters and ancillaries.
I won't mention the problem I found this week in case the MOT tester reads this forum (it's not that it matters if I know about it).
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2000/X Xantia 100HDi Estate.
Not a cheap buy as I've owned it from new but in daily use as station hack & backup family tansport. Passed 120k earlier today & running Ok except for a heater fan stuck on gale force 10!
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Mazda 626 2.0 GSi 98R
Purchased Mar'09 80k now on 106k £775 plus £225 given for my old Audi 80
Spent to date £800 in MOT's, spares and tyres.
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1997/R Escort 1.8 petrol Ghia X, obtained in June 2008 by way of a swap. The car it was swapped for owed me £150.
Not had any repairs for a while (kiss of death me saying that), although it did cost nearly 50 quid to get through its MoT last May. 80,400 miles on the clock in 2008, 116,100 now. No idea when/if it's ever had a cambelt change...
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Time for me to quietly reverse the Escort out of the contest. My father has given me some help to replace it with another Ford so I can carry on commuting to work at odd hours and picking my son up at weekends. The total mileage has gone up by 1,200 since this challenge began last month, with no further repair costs.
Planning to keep the new one for at least four or five years, so it might qualify on here soon.
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>> replace it with another Ford
Spill the beans :-)
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Late entry:
1989 Volvo 240 bought 5 years ago for £100. Still running well in daily use. 150,000 miles.
Oil changes, timing belt, ball joint, brake pads, all DIY.
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Radford Xanthos mountain bike now 13yrs old will this count?
It's still going after it's life spent in the woods and trails with my lump sat on it.
Bikes are more expensive than some cars.,!!
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well
I was looking at an expense for the original contender, the lads Primera.
Bell Boy has stepped up to the plate with a cheap window winder motor, so .....
Its still the contender.....
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Just picked up on this thread - am I too late to enter the Saab? Purchased back in December last year for £450, total expenditure so far £20 for a radio code and a few self tappers to secure the front spoiler. 2000 miles so far.
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No other expenses declared so carry on.
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Thanks PU - it was supposed to be a short term measure until we could afford a new Espace, but at the moment it's looking like a longer term investment (wrong word I know).
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My entry is probably lagging behind a bit....
2001 X Xantia HDi Estate. Bought it in Aug 07 for £3k (so not really bangernomics then...)but - since then it has covered 65k miles for the addition of: alternator (£110), cambelt (£130 parts, fitted by me), track rod ends (£40) and handbrake cables (£40), and a battery (free, cos I nicked it off a car I was scrapping!). It has also had a repair to the blower and rear windscreen wiper, and the exhaust has been welded back together - but all done by me for minimal parts. A set of front discs is perhaps the only additional non-service parts added. So cost to date for buying (assuming it's still worth £1k) and non service items is £2320 or 3.6p / mile (I hate to think what the fuel / insurance / servicing / tyres cost is on top of that - but that is pretty much the same whatever car I am running). Which is pretty cheap - will get even cheaper if it keeps going for another 3 years / 60k miles as I hope - providing not much else falls off or breaks - I am expecting a clutch a some point....
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Ok - Fess up time.
The lad met a deer, and crashed the Primera into a stone wall about two months back. Needed a new front bumper, wing, bonnet, top front cross brace, washer bottle, front light assy. All minimal stuff, all do-able at home (only the corss brace was a weld job) All available second hand at good prices except the bumper.
It was going to need two front tyres to get through the MOT, so we wrote it off. And he bought:
Another Primera. For 300 quid. With 12 months MOT. The old one has just disappeared up the road, weighed in for scrap 150 quid cash in hand. Parts sold from the old one for 150 quid before it went, so it only cost 200 quid in the end. Add that onto the 300 quid for the replacement and we are back in 500 quid territory. The new one is an SLX with leather seats and climate (working).
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Good one!
I used to have a P-reg Primera, SE model. Loved it!
What reg is the lad's?
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Venison burgers are really very good if you are getting tired of roasts. Need plenty of onion mind.
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Looks like the costs are escalating for my KIA. The tail pipe's just fallen out of the back-box. £33 for a new silencer.
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Been nothing but trouble that car BT. Time you got rid.
:-)
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Well that is almost 2/3 of what you paid for the car, the exhaust place ripped you off :D
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That was a bit deer - one for the Picasso was only £28, including a new clamp. Much better than the £100 the local place quoted for a fitted one!
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Think we have paid around £25 for them in the past for the Punto, my uncle used to fit them for us. The car used to eat exhausts but it was probably a sign of the head gasket going, as that engine in the Punto was notorious for it.
We paid Kwikfit £55 nearly four years ago for an exhaust for the Fiesta, that included labour and it still back box still seems very rust free, although its needed a couple of clamps (free from indie).
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Edit it will be interesting to see how the Fiesta does in August, so far my parents have spent just £55 on it this year, £30 on a new battery (which I bought and paid for) and £25 on a new head lamp bulb and oil/filter. If it passes the MOT I will treat it to a new air filter.
It is amazing how a car which started out so badly as now exceed our expectations. We bought it for three years and 90k, its now almost four years and 93k. The aim now is to get it to 100k. Engine wise I reckon it is good for another 50-60k but the body work will fail well before then.
In the 35k my dads done in it no work to the engine has been needed at all, apart from the MAF needing a clean and new spark plugs for a service.
Last edited by: RattleandSmoke on Thu 26 May 11 at 23:42
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This is the best deal I could find: cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190466451037&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Anyone know better?
A local factor could do one for a couple of quid more. I decided to order from them as it's easier to return if it's not right.
D'yer reckon the KIA will outlast this one too?
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A car will last for ever, it just depends how much money you want to keep throwing at it.
This is my Morris Minor, they say the British can't build cars but this one is 50 years and old has done 2 million miles, it has had four floors, 15 new wings, 10 new engines, 7 new gearboxes etc etc.
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Bought a Yaris rear box from same ebay supplier as BT.
Fitted perfectly: nicely made.
Cheapest I could get .
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>> If it passes the MOT I will treat it to a new air filter.
Take the air filter out for the MOT.
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MoT time for the Saab today - hoping it doesn't put me out of the running. I've done just over 10k in it now, had to replace the front tyres so far - just under £100.
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Not too bad - one shock absorber failed, the other an advisory so I'm having the pair replaced, both front flexi hoses to be replaced (brake fluid's being changed at the same time), handbrake to be adjusted up, and a number light bulb. Total cost a shade under £300 including the test.
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I've had a damper fail on my Mazda6 (leaking) and that was before the warranty was up! I blame speed bumps.
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>>I blame speed bumps.
I think they have an effect - apparently the local factor had the parts in stock which suggests they're in demand. Thinking about it there are two large speed cushions and at least four speed bumps on the way to my daughter's school - I drive over them several times a week.
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Laddo broke a Drive shaft on the Primera a week or so back. 200 quid fitted.
Its a know weak spot with the P11 Primera, they have a weight clamped half way along them, and is a source of corrosion.
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KIA's luggage area light packed up. A quid for a new festoon bulb!
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Kia was very sluggish to start this morning. I thought I'd check battery and charging voltages - they look OK.
I noticed a label on the battery: re-charge before APR 2001 unless fitted. I guess that'll be the problem.
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bit of ingenious label doctoring and that could be a new battery warranty...;)
considering what you do with that kia and from my use of one long term courtesy Pride im amazed that some people still look down their noses still keeps kias cheap for those in the know
my one and only critisism was that i thought the rear dampers not up to the mark for a new car made the ride bouncy if it had been mine id have changed them lots of small cars seem to be set up like this until you get the sporty version which goes to the other extreme with concrete suspension
punctuation removed even the ones i get right nearly...:-)
Last edited by: gordonbennet on Sat 5 Nov 11 at 12:04
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polo 1.4 1999 £600....90k
siezed rear windscreen wiper.... wd40
burnt out heater blower resister replaced...£8.00 (ebay)
tracking needs doing....halfords had a go, car drives in a straight line....free of charge
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Don't jump to conclusions!!!
I noticed the lights weren't dimming on attempting to operate the starter.
I put a direct trigger feed to the solenoid, it was still sluggish.
I put a direct earth to the starter, it was still sluggish and then the solenoid failed to operate.
Off came the starter. On the bench I was getting a healthy spark when trying to operate the solenoid, but it wouldn't budge. The pinion was free to slide, so I took apart what I could but couldn't find a cause - everything slides easily, so it's not jammed.
Starter from ebay - £35 delivered (I know, that's nearly what I paid for the car!), works fine.
I've never experienced a solenoid fail like that. Open circuit, or physically jammed, yes, but to imitate a duff battery?
How much longer will my ten-year-old plus battery last?
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"How much longer will my ten-year-old plus battery last?"
Battery in son's Yaris is 11 and still going strong...
Other son has 1998 Peugeot 106 on its original battery...(edit only 55k miles)
Some time yet is the answer..
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Late result:
I have just sold my spare Volvo 240, still in running order with new MOT, for £317.
Cost £100 ten years ago. Used regularly, no major costs, routine DIY servicing only.
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>> I have just sold my spare Volvo 240
Was that the 400k miler?
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>> >> I have just sold my spare Volvo 240
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>> Was that the 400k miler?
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No, a mere 150,000.
My main driver reached 450,000 miles and then failed the MOT on emissions. It was impossible to get them down to the very tight limits of the cat test, as the engine was using a bit of oil and I think this poisoned the cat.
I resolved never to get a post-July 1992 car again, so my current Volvo is June 1992, with identical fuel/ignition set up. Yet it is only tested on the earlier limits, which it easily passes. It too would have failed if it had been registered a month later. Crazy.
This one has only done 270,000 miles, so a long way to go to the half million I nearly reached before.
The £100 car was a bit shabby with patched up rust around the wheel arches and tail gate, but it ran reliably for many years, and will make a good daily driver for the new owner.
I decided to reduce my portfolio exposure to Volvos as part of a domestic harmony deal that allowed me to aquire two other nice classics, another Triumph 2000 and a Series II LandRover.
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Should enter the Fiesta now, won't be a winner by far, but probably not a disaster by far.
1997 Fiesta 1.3 Ghia, bought in August 2007 for £850. Sold in January 2012 for £100 scrap due to severe kerbing. Done around 33,000 miles in it.
Year 1 - Spent £300 on general bits. It needed two new tyres, new exhaust and new thermostat
Year 2 08) - Spent £350 oil change, front wishbones, new wipers, new plugs and a new heater control valve and front pads.
Year 3 - £420, needed new brake pipes, complete rebuilding of the rear drums, a new rear tyre, oil change.
Year 4 (10) - £560 Needed new front discs and pads, new rear axle bushes, welding to the sill, spark plugs, oil change, new brake light switch and new wipers.
Year 5 - £360 - Needed new front suspension leg, (inc shock and spring), two new tyres, throttle body clean (free of charge).
Year 6 - Scrapped.
So overall it hasn't been too bad, the main issues have been rust and suspension problems mainly caused by bushes. The rest has been routine servicing. I changed the air filter each year and generally did other things such as cleaning out the MAF. It turned out to be ok considering it over heated on the second day we owned it!
Towards the end it was suffering of early signs of clutch release bearing failure and the wheel arch rust was pretty much terminal. Mechanically though at 95,000 miles it was still great. The engine still pulled very well and the gears were very slick. Always flew through the emissions and even the tappets never need adjusting until the very end. Although it was never serviced it did get an oil change every year and I did change the other filters when required.
The engine itself requires no new parts at all in our ownership other than the spark plugs, air filters and the only none service item was the thermostat. If only it was galvanised and had better suspension bushes it would have been a brilliant little car. It spent 3.5 days a year in the garage on average. With all the rust it was a bit of a death trap towards the end.
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>> Should enter the Fiesta now, won't be a winner by far, but probably not a
>> disaster by far.
>> 1997 Fiesta 1.3 Ghia, bought in August 2007 for £850. Sold in January 2012 for
>> £100 scrap due to severe kerbing. Done around 33,000 miles in it.
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>> Year 1 - Spent £300 on general bits. It needed two new tyres, new exhaust
>> and new thermostat
>> Year 2 08) - Spent £350 oil change, front wishbones, new wipers, new plugs and
>> a new heater control valve and front pads.
>> Year 3 - £420, needed new brake pipes, complete rebuilding of the rear drums, a
>> new rear tyre, oil change.
>> Year 4 (10) - £560 Needed new front discs and pads, new rear axle bushes,
>> welding to the sill, spark plugs, oil change, new brake light switch and new wipers.
>> Year 5 - £360 - Needed new front suspension leg, (inc shock and spring), two
>> new tyres, throttle body clean (free of charge).
>> Year 6 - Scrapped.
Proper bangernomics doesn't involve spending £400+ a year in a garage though does it?
Just to put that in context, that looks like it adds up to £2,740 including depreciation for 33k miles - 8.3p per mile exc fuel/insurance.
We bought an brand new A3 1.6 in November 2007 and sold it in November 2011, so not that dis-similar a time period. In that time it lost £7,500 in depreciation, cost £550ish in servicing and £280 for a set of tyres. Total cost £7,380, to cover 40k miles - total cost 21 per mile - 'only' 10 p per mile more :-)
Had we bought a brand new Panda for £7k I expect we could have more than halved the depreciation number and brought the cost/mile down to around 10p ;-)
Peter
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No but those figures are total servicing/MOT costs each year. It wasn't really proper bangermatics it is all we could afford and my mechanical skills are limited to changing plugs and the odd sensor here and there.
I did a lot worse with my Corsa, I managed to spend £1000 on repairs in one year, and lost £900 in deprecation when the head gasket blew. My Panda even with interest has worked out cheaper than that thing!.
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PeterS you're not comparing like with like, are you?
An extra 13p per mile (not 10p), over 40,000 miles is £5,200. Add to that an extra ?£300-£600 per annum of insurance and you're talking about maybe £7k more for running your A3 rather than a Fiesta over a 4.5 year period. In my book that's quite a lot of money.
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>> It spent 3.5 days a year in the garage on average.
And there's another difference reason that bangernomics and garages don't mix, not just from a cost but also time perspective. The A3 had two half day visits to Audi in 4 years, plus an hour for an MOT in year 4. Around 0.25 days per year or less than a tenth of the time an old Fiesta needed :-)
Peter
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>> bangernomics and garages don't mix
The last time I took a banger into a garage was about 15 years ago, a fairly knackered C-reg Sierra estate.
It failed its MoT on a handful of "minor" points including some welding, which at 15 or 20 quid per item added up to just over £100. While it was having the work done some more problems were uncovered which pretty much doubled the bill. Then the fuel tank was found to be leaking, which cost another £100 to put right. Add a paid-for retest to the list and the total bill with VAT was just the wrong side of £400.
And the damn thing still failed with a (different) list of faults as long as your arm. I scrapped it.
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>> bangernomics and garages don't mix
Depends how you budget for it. The previous Saab cost me £450; I could have got finance but that would cost me a lot more each month. Buying it for a basement price meant that with no other outgoings I could afford to have the work done quickly in a garage when it was needed. The car spent one day only off the road having MoT work, total cost of that was around £300 as I recall. Car was sold for £300, so over a year's trouble free motoring cost less than £600 including a pair of tyres and a couple of oil changes.
The current Saab cost me £400 - I had a budget of up to £1000 so I've put £400 aside to cover for future repairs.
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Ity depends on the type of driving too, the Fiesta spend most of its miles in the city, going over bumps and lots of braking. If that 33k was all motorway miles I doubt we would have needed to spend half what we did on it.
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Blast it, SWMBO's just come home in the Kia with a cracked door mirror glass. MOT's about a month away. Looks like a new glass will cost around six quid.
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KIA passed its MOT today. I'd fitted a new track-rod end (I happened to have sitting in the shed) to replace one with a split gaiter. They spent half-an-hour trying to replicate the Lambda range they found last year so it could pass on emissions.
£45 MOT, £68 insurance, £130 tax, who said motoring's cheap?
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My Xantia has blotted its copy book somewhat as it has consumed another alternator. Still at least it's not a gearbox like B-Ts Kia....!
Rear windscreen wiper has thrown a wobbly again too - it was shorting out blowing the fuse - which also runs the indicators, so we were in BMW mode for a few days. Think it is just water in the relay.
Rear height corrector was looking problematic a while back, but it has responded to being lubricated well.
Might have to put some new spheres on it, as the BMW ride is not that appealing either.
Otherwise just keeps going, now 90k miles added over 5years and 2 months, total up to 137k.
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I sold the Volvo recently for £320. Cost 5 years ago - £100.
No major work done.
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Bangernomics - Zero v. stunorthants29 - Zero
