Motoring Discussion > Top 10 winter driving tips.	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Dog	Replies: 30

New Tue 7 Dec 10 09:43   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Dog

www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/mike-rutherford/8170707/My-alternative-winter-driving-tips.html Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 09:50   Top 10 winter driving tips. - bathtub tom

>>A cheap, dash-mounted room stat inside the car is a good idea. Connected to what? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 09:52   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Zero

I always figured Mike Rutherford for a tit when he tested the first Kia Pride to come to the UK and declared it as a first rate car. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 09:58   Top 10 winter driving tips. - bathtub tom

I will not rise to the bait. I will not rise to the bait. Yet! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 10:09   Top 10 winter driving tips. - VxFan

"8) Modern cars are so loaded with power-sapping gadgets and gizmos that their batteries go flat surprisingly quickly" He then said earlier:- "Also consider an in-car kettle which plugs into the 12V cigarette lighter socket in the dash." Hmmm! Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 10:12   Top 10 winter driving tips. - BiggerBadderDave

Christmas lights? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 11:54   Top 10 winter driving tips. - movilogo

The portable kettle is to be used only when engine is running... I keep a windup torch in car but never thought of keeping a windup radio. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 11:56   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Old Navy

>> I keep a windup torch in car but never thought of keeping a windup radio. >> >> If your car battery won't support a radio it's time to start walking. :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:05   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Zero

Keep a good book in the car Flight of the phoenix, should do it. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:09   Top 10 winter driving tips. - hawkeye

>> The portable kettle is to be used only when engine is running... >> >> I keep a windup torch in car but never thought of keeping a windup radio. >> >> What about a wind-up kettle ? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:16   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Cliff Pope

Or a wind-up car, like those old air compressors that had an enormous coil spring for starting? PS - this is a wind-up. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:18   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Bellboy

excellant 10 top tips and i agree with them all as for those that doubt a modern car battery can be flattened in weasily less than an hour engine off ,i suggest to them they try it on their own cars to be astounded its very very often a fact Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:19   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Clk Sec

>> I keep a windup torch in car but never thought of keeping a windup radio. I keep a wind-up torch in the car. A nifty little gadget with a flashing light, an alarm and a nasty point at one end for breaking windows. My wind-up radio is kept in the shower room. Don't want to electrocute myself. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:21   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Iffy

...What about a wind-up kettle ?... Might work better than the in-car ones I've had. I'm no electrician, but I reckon the auxiliary socket output is insufficient to boil a cup of water. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:26   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Clk Sec

You can't beat getting out of the car and sitting around a primus stove waiting for the kettle to whistle. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:32   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Old Navy

>> You can't beat getting out of the car and sitting around a primus stove waiting >> for the kettle to whistle. >> It amazes me that some people will set up picnic in a main road layby or on a verge when there is often beautiful countryside within a few minutes drive. Must be addicted to traffic fumes. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:36   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Clk Sec

>>It amazes me that some people will set up picnic in a main road layby or on a verge when there is often beautiful countryside within a few minutes drive. Must be addicted to traffic fumes. It really is weird. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:39   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Iffy

...It really is weird... Tend to agree, although stopping in the gateway of a field is more likely than it once was to provoke an aggressive reaction from the farmer. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:28   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Bellboy

'm no electrician, but I reckon the auxiliary socket output is insufficient to boil a cup of water. > >>>> especialyy if fuse 7 is blown and s you havent changed it as some suggest they didda but didnt, so some old fool goes through circuit diagrams whilst at home to help them find a hidden in line fuse on a mangy sunday........... Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:54   Top 10 winter driving tips. - spamcan61

I reckon fag lighter is normally 15A fuse so about 180W. Specific heat capacity of water is 4200 J/Kg/K 1 kettle = 500ml of water = 0.5Kg. So to raise 0.5Kg of water from 10C to 100C takes:- 90*0.5*4200 = 189000 Joules divided by 180W = 180J/s = 1050 seconds So around 18 minutes to boil half a litre of water, assuming kettle is 100% efficient (probably not far off) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:57   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Pat

I can confirm you are absolutely correct spamcan......with a 24v lorry fag lighter and 24 v truck kettle I can also confirm that before the water boils the plug socket will melt and the cab will fill with acrid smoke. Camping Gaz stove and whistling kettle for us:) Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:30   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Iffy

...plug socket will melt... That's what happened to one kettle I had. Can't often be bothered with in-car kettle boiling these days, but I have a gas stove which does the job quite well. My mother always used to fill a flask with boiled water and use that on the stove. Starting with hot-ish water saves quite a bit of time. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:35   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Skoda

The back of the Octavia's surprisingly good for tea making on the go. We've used it a few times after big walks. You can stand up straight under the rain shelter / aka boot lid and the boot area (with variable boot floor gadget) makes a cracking chair, pretty comfy, even in the rain. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 12:57   Top 10 winter driving tips. - VxFan

>> I reckon fag lighter is normally 15A fuse so about 180W. Can't vouch for other car makers, but both Ford & Vauxhall have a label on the accessory socket saying 10 amps max. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:15   Top 10 winter driving tips. - spamcan61

>> >> I reckon fag lighter is normally 15A fuse so about 180W. >> >> Can't vouch for other car makers, but both Ford & Vauxhall have a label on >> the accessory socket saying 10 amps max. >> Sounds reasonable, too cold to go out and check on my lovely Vectra...so we're over 25 minutes then. Primus it is:-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:35   Top 10 winter driving tips. - CGNorwich

A tray of these is what you need. Enough for a week on the A1 www.hotcan.com/ Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:40   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Iffy

...www.hotcan.com/... The RNLI use something similar on their off-shore 'big' lifeboats. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:41   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Zero

Classic Chili Con Carne with shaped minced Beef. What the hell is "shaped minced beef" Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 13:49   Top 10 winter driving tips. - CGNorwich

It's part of the "authentic American recipe" Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 14:50   Top 10 winter driving tips. - movilogo

I'm intrigued by this hotcan. How does it work? Their website didn't explain it properly! Edit: Looked in to their brochure. It seems there is a layer of water and lime surrounding the food. During piercing the top cover, a chemical reaction takes place which heats the food up. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 7 Dec 10 14:23   Top 10 winter driving tips. - Dog

www.amazon.co.uk/KETTLE-travel-camping-boating-kettle/dp/B003YUZYFY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291731674&sr=8-1 Reply to this message | Report message