Motoring Discussion > Rules are for little people...	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: R.P.	Replies: 41

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:19   Rules are for little people... - R.P.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-11829823 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:32   Rules are for little people... - hobby

Sell the car if she can't afford the running costs... That story tends to support the theory that many people feel that a car is an "essential" item which we cannot live without... in most cases that simply not true, we can adjust our lifestyle to suit non car ownership if needed... Just it may involve sacrifices such as having to move... If her grandma could pay the £7k why didn't she just pay the 30 quid for her and she could change the registered address? Its not rocket science, or is she being deliberately obstreperous? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:33   Rules are for little people... - teabelly

Can't afford £30 for a permit but can afford to run a car??? I'd have taken the car which would have killed two birds with one stone :) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:35   Rules are for little people... - Runfer D'Hills

Looks as if she'd benefit from walking a bit more... Reply to this message | Report message       5

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:40   Rules are for little people... - Zero

you get fat when you give up smoking.... Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:41   Rules are for little people... - Runfer D'Hills

Wouldn't know. I don't smoke. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:45   Rules are for little people... - Pat

An observation made only by people who are genetically slim. Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:47   Rules are for little people... - Zero

there is no such thing as "genetically slim" If one is fat, one is eating too much. Now you can be happy with your weight or not - that's a different matter. Last edited by: Zero on Thu 25 Nov 10 at 09:48 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 09:55   Rules are for little people... - Bellboy

i wonder if they have her age wrong Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:02   Rules are for little people... - Cliff Pope

>> there is no such thing as "genetically slim" >> >> >> >> I am. I can eat or drink anything, and I have never put on weight. (I have never smoked) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:07   Rules are for little people... - Bromptonaut

>> there is no such thing as "genetically slim" Maybe not but a fast metabolism almost ceertainly geneitically coded. I'm like a rake and could not physically eat enough to get fat. Mrs B has the opposite problem, unless she's very careful the puonds slip back on. More of a problem since kids; something neither you nor I have had to do!! Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:13   Rules are for little people... - Zero

Sorry, I meant to say there is no such thing as genetically "Fat" Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:38   Rules are for little people... - FotheringtonTomas

>> Can't afford £30 for a permit but can afford to run a car??? There seems to be a reason why she could not obtain a "permit". She has sold her car. I think that having to pay to park on the road outside one's house stinks. I think that the council deserve severe criticism. I think she's a bit of a twit. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:53   Rules are for little people... - Cliff Pope

>> >> . >> I think that the council deserve severe criticism. >> I think she's a bit of a twit. >> I think they are all twits - it's probably genetic. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:27   Rules are for little people... - Bromptonaut

>> I think that having to pay to park on the road outside one's house stinks. Generally I'd agree with that but there are those living near commuter train stations, sports stadia & manifold other people magnets who clamour for permit systems. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:31   Rules are for little people... - FotheringtonTomas

I did not say that the "permit system" stinks. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:35   Rules are for little people... - Bromptonaut

>> I did not say that the "permit system" stinks. But should the cost be born by all taxpayers or by those who benefit? There's no right answer to that question & it's going to be posed more and more as public authorities try to re-balance the books. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:36   Rules are for little people... - FotheringtonTomas

>> But should the cost be born by all taxpayers or by those who benefit? >> >> There's no right answer to that question Yes there is. The cost should be borne in general - there are many other examples of taxpayer's money being used for things that do not benefit all taxpayers. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:38   Rules are for little people... - Fenlander

>>>there are many other examples of taxpayer's money being used for things that do not benefit all taxpayers. What sort of things?? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 12:12   Rules are for little people... - FotheringtonTomas

Oh, I'm sure you can think of lots of examples. Try council recreational facilities. Schools. The NHS. Street lights. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 10:50   Rules are for little people... - John H

Rules are for little people.... They sure don't apply to fat people like her. I bet she can find the money to smoke, drink, and eat takeaways while multitasking - watching J Kyle on a 50" HDTV on Sky and chatting to her friends on her iPhone and surfing the net on an iPad. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:15   Rules are for little people... - MD

Thanks John. Saved me typing it! Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:16   Rules are for little people... - madf

I blame the education system for her being so stoopid.. "Miss Williams, who says she has now got rid of her car, said: "I moved back in January of last year but couldn't get a permit because I had nothing with the address on it and couldn't prove I lived here. In the meantime, I had parking tickets. I was getting them for parking outside my father's house where I was living. "I couldn't pay. I was only getting £40 a week and the tickets had gone up to £75. I had letters upon letters." www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/news/163-11k-parking-fine-sparks-pet-threat/article-2926972-detail/article.html Either that or her family are breeding for stupidity. But as she has about 30 years to pay the bills, she's clever and its the taxpayers who are stupid... Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:23   Rules are for little people... - Fenlander

No sympathy for her or her family that failed to properly support her. Anyway no thread is complete without the streetview link... tinyurl.com/3yqjk3r shortened link to google maps Typical town street where the residents parking scheme has given householders back parking that would otherwise be packed with shop/office workers, shoppers and others. £30 (even if yearly) is a bargain to be able to park outside/near the home given the alternative if the scheme was scrapped. Some folks say how could the council let it go this far.... they didn't make that choice... she did. BTW warning.... link contains Christmas greetings. Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 25 Nov 10 at 12:35 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:51   Rules are for little people... - bhoywonder

I have no sympathy for her. Anybody with an ounce of brain would move there car after the first parking ticket as you would/should think to yourself this will happen everyday. Idiot. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 11:53   Rules are for little people... - Old Navy

>> BTW warning.... link contains Christmas greetings. >> I'd pay not to park there! Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 12:57   Rules are for little people... - Snakey

Really, taking this level of persecution for parking outside your house is ridiculous. So she parked outside her house and didn't pay a permit? Big deal, what a non event. Apart from the fact paying to park outside your own house is downright wrong, why didn't the idiotic council do something more constructive than just pile parking 'offences' on her? They deliberately dragged it out as much as she did. Its this sort of blind hatred of motorists from councils et al that makes angry. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 12:59   Rules are for little people... - FotheringtonTomas

It's not just hatred of motorists, even though I think we're used as convenient targets. Council tax, hmm what? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 13:17   Rules are for little people... - Bromptonaut

Both press reports are short on detail; I suspect however the larger part by far of the £11k is the bailiff's charges. Maybe the Council tried to communicate with her, the report in the local paper says she had loads of letters. I'm back officer these days but had plenty years of dealing with the public. Some people just won't engage. Perhaps she just hoped they'd give up?? Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Thu 25 Nov 10 at 13:19 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 13:34   Rules are for little people... - sooty123

If she won't answer them what are they to do? Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 13:59   Rules are for little people... - hobby

>> If she won't answer them what are they to do? >> Employ those clampers off the other thread?! ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 25 Nov 10 13:56   Rules are for little people... - hobby

>> Apart from the fact paying to park outside your own house is downright >> wrong, Why? I used to live in the West End of Glasgow and used to pay for a permit... at least then I had a decent chance of being able to park outside or near my home... If the resident permit system hadn't been there it would have been overrun by the local hospital and university. Ok it cost, but it was only a few quid a year so no big deal for the benefit it gave. Ordinary roads like this without any parking restrictions are a free for all, if residents want to make sure they have a chance of parking there then why shouldn't the Council charge for the service (which is over and above what is normally expected)... If they don't want to pay then buy/rent a house with a drive or buy/rent a garage, I bet that would cost a damn sight more than a permit! I'd agree that the story was a non-event though... Its yet another example of people not engaging their brain, she had enough warning what was happening and it would have been easy for her to sort it out before things got out of hand... All that story does is make her look a right pillock! Last edited by: Webmaster on Thu 2 Dec 10 at 01:08 Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:10   Rules are for little people... - NortonES2

Permits are very useful in some places, as you say hobby. Friends in Tenterden have some difficulty getting a space outside their house, and sometimes access to their own drive. Many of the cars that use the road for free parking are those of council officers. The local council are stubbornly resistant to introducing a permit system. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 08:34   Rules are for little people... - IJWS14

>> Apart from the fact paying to park outside your own house is downright >> wrong. >> Too many people believe they have more trights over the road outside their house than anyone else, it is a PUBLIC HIGHWAY. Generally parking permis schemes exist because the residents want them. We should adopt the principle that if you want a car you must have somewhere to park it off street, as with HGVs and O licenses. Reply to this message | Report message       5

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:04   Rules are for little people... - Iffy

IJWS14 and me don't see eye-to-eye on some parking issues. But he's spot-on here. Too many owners of terraced homes think they own the street outside. Traffic volumes change over the years, but I wonder if these people do their research before buying. Iffy Towers has an enclosed rear yard, but before deciding to buy, I swung by the street a few times at different times of the day, partly to weigh up the on-street parking out front. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:18   Rules are for little people... - Old Sock

Perhaps her attitude is: "Could pay, won't pay". Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:25   Rules are for little people... - Iffy

..."Could pay, won't pay"... I'm starting to warm to her already. :) I think the attitude is more 'can't pay unless the social does'. But there's also mention in the story of the grandmother having paid £7,000, so it's not clear what exactly is going on. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:27   Rules are for little people... - hobby

Or: "Could pay, Grandmother pays..." (Same thought, Iffy!) Last edited by: hobby on Fri 26 Nov 10 at 09:28 Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:34   Rules are for little people... - rtj70

There are a few streets in my town that are now parking permit only and residents have to pay. The reason they are now permit holders only is the residents asked for them. One is near shops so it stops people parking for free. Another is near a bus route and others near the train station. In all cases the residents were fed up and happy to pay for permits. One lad though must be quite rich because she kept putting off getting a permit and got tickets. She carried on like this for a few months before finally going to the library and getting one - which was about 300 yards or less from her home. Tickets were £30 a time I think. The permit was less. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:44   Rules are for little people... - R.P.

Residents' Permits make perfect sense in some places - £30.00 doesn't sound excessive - probably covers the cost of processing and admin. I'd be happy to pay. She knows the score, doubt whether the Secret Millionaire will bail her out - mire of her own making sadly.. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 09:50   Rules are for little people... - Iffy

...Residents' Permits make perfect sense in some places - £30.00 doesn't sound excessive... I had one when I lived in Weymouth Street, off Harley Street, in Marylebone, central London. Much-prized it was. Several permits found their way into the hands of people who were not residents, but who worked in the area. Despite this, I always managed to find a space within a few streets of the flat. You had to make mental note of where you'd parked, because the next morning it was all too easy to head off towards the bay you'd used a few days earlier. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 26 Nov 10 13:06   Rules are for little people... - Tooslow

She shows about as much sense as this guy www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11839786 John Reply to this message | Report message