Pulling the trigger on new Ioniq 6 RWD Ultimate spec.
Marmite looks, like a Frankenstein creation from Merc CLS and a banana...and is likely a run out spec with new Ioniq 5, Kia Ev6, and some Genesis EVs now toting 84kWh packs (like my 74 plate Ioniq5)
But £21k off list is too tempting.
www.new-car-discount.com/car/hyundai/ioniq-6/saloon/all/all
If it disappoints can always chop it in for MG's upcoming 742bhp saloon...
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These get good reviews and are apparently very well appointed and comfortable.
Hope you enjoy it and give us commentary on how it goes!
There were some astonishing leasing deals a few months back on these - sort of £200 pm on 20k miles (don't have the exact figures anymore but it was cheaper than an electric Corsa) and I was tempted but was told by Mrs Z that we have other things to get first :-(
Last edited by: zippy on Mon 18 Aug 25 at 16:36
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A serial EV buyer friend of mine has one of these, and he's reasonably happy with it. Just remember to duck your head, not once but twice, when getting in the rear seat. I did and still hit my head on the sloping rear roof!
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>>Just remember to duck your head, not once but twice, when getting in the rear seat. I did and still hit my head on the sloping rear roof!
Aye - fortunately my children are afflicted with normal height as my missus is as short as I am tall, so they're ok in the back.
Ioniq 5 is like a small SUV for accommodation, Ioniq 6 is a coupe-saloon effort.
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Delivered yesterday with 8 miles on the odo.
Much better spec than the Ioniq5 (it was the lowest level, the 6 is 'Ultimate' which is two levels higher).
Heated/ventilated leather with memory and 'relaxation' (they fold back), HUD, sunroof, 360º camera, BOSE stereo, automatic door handles (rather than the Model 3/Y style manually popped on the base model), and a bunch of tech I'll probably not use like park assist and able to move it back/forward with the fob.
The "pretendy engine" noise is hilarious/awful - turned straight off after some giggling.
Realistically 250-300 miles of range from its 77kWh pack.
Absolute steal at £29k.
Last edited by: Lygonos on Thu 18 Sep 25 at 01:25
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Silly question but how do EVs cope with very slippery conditions ? 3 days ago I parked my Vitara in a very quiet off road parking area. Hard baked red soil. When I returned 7 hours later after heavy rain you could barely stand on it. Smooth as glass and twice as slippy. No way could I drive the 8 metres back onto the single lane tarmac.
I thought it would be a long walk out to get help…fortunately the Vitara has decent ground clearance, there was just room slightly downhill between trees in a straight line, to a narrow tarmac footpath. After moving rocks, breaking a few branches, heart pounding, first gear, feet under pedals I made it to the path then 90 left back to the tarmac track.
Thank goodness for gravity.
I did wonder what future walkers would think of the red mud tyre tracks I left behind on the footpath.
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>> Silly question but how do EVs cope with very slippery conditions ?
They have wheels and tyres like ICE cars and a similar or better electronic control of traction.
If they'd got the ground clearance I think they'd be able to follow the route you did.
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At the end of the day, its about tyres, ground clearance and driver skill. regardless of power plant.
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I was thinking more of engine braking ( using first gear) and once off the red mud smooth ice rink facing downhill I hoped my newish Continental tyres would find some grip on the green foliage and small branches I redistributed :-)
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>> I was thinking more of engine braking ( using first gear) and once off the
>> red mud smooth ice rink facing downhill I hoped my newish Continental tyres would find
>> some grip on the green foliage and small branches I redistributed :-)
I've not driven a pure EV but the Toyota Hybrid we hired in Madeira had very good retardation if full regeneration was selected. At least as good as my diesel Skoda.
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>>first gear, feet under pedals
Exactly the correct action, apart from lowering tyre pressures. Also, an EV may have the additional mass to provide traction?
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Talking of new cars.
Yesterday I had a car serviced, Moorfields Road, Slyfield Industrial Estate, Guildford, yes, of course you know it.
It is virtually wall to wall new car showrooms, every make you can think of. I had wandered down to the other end of the road to get a bacon sandwich and on my wander back, I had peered into a number of these glass palaces, MB, Lexus, Ford, Vauxhall, Omoda and Jaecoo - what?
What is Omoda? Or Jaecoo? Have some kids been messing around swapping the letters to make a rude word?
No. Large as life and as large as a Range Rover, very similar to a Range Rover, in fact. No prices on them.
How long have they been in the UK?
Are they selling any?
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>> Yesterday I had a car serviced, Moorfields Road, Slyfield Industrial Estate, Guildford, yes, of course you know it.
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>> It is virtually wall to wall new car showrooms, every make you can think of.
Also our nearest Kwik Fit site for re-calibrating active cruise control.
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>> No. Large as life and as large as a Range Rover, very similar to a
>> Range Rover, in fact. No prices on them.
£28-31k
>> How long have they been in the UK?
actively expanding about 12 months.
>> Are they selling any?
Shed loads at that price.
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Seen a couple of Jaecoos recently, one on the M1, one more locally.
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Seen a couple of jaecoos and there's a few omodas nearby. No idea what they are like.
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Omoda and Jaecoo are sub-brands of Chery who are also about to unload on the UK.
Another bunch of SUVs (Inc 7 seaters and PHEVs) that will under cut VW etc by £5-10k+
Competent but not exceptional.
But every iteration brings them on quickly.
Have a look at the MG IM6.
Legacy brands will be cacking themselves.
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>> Legacy brands will be cacking themselves.
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I don’t have a brand and I aren’t cacking myself.
Have a nice weekend…still warm & dry in Soto de Cangas until tomorrow’s storm arrives.
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There was a Ford garage 2 miles from me - getting on 80+ years under 3 owners.
12 months ago Jaecoo & Omoda signs went up.
Garage owner was asked why?
Answer - Ford have stopped making cars my business and private customers buy - Fiesta was the best seller to private owners.
This morning I passed the garage - 2 huge car transporters with large 6/7 Jaecoo SUVs to be unloaded.
The garage still does Ford Warranty on Vans.
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>> Garage owner was asked why?
>> Answer - Ford have stopped making cars my business and private customers buy - Fiesta
>> was the best seller to private owners.
Ford have lost the plot in Europe, dumping their best sellers, they are esentially now just putting bodies on other peoples platforms and trying to sell them based on model names from the past thinking that brings brand loyalty, where really it just infuriates people.
In the UK, its a nothing brand now with under 13% market share
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>> In the UK, its a nothing brand now with under 13% market share
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And yet they make the UK’s best selling car, the Puma
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Which is now available as an EV.
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>> Which is now available as an EV.
Which isnt even in the top ten UK sales.
2015 UK car sales by model
1) Ford Fiesta 133,434.
2) Vauxhall Corsa 92,077.
3) Ford Focus 83,816.
4) Volkswagen Golf 73,409.
5) Nissan Qashqai 60,814.
6) Volkswagen Polo 54,900.
7) Vauxhall Astra 52,703.
8) Audi A3 47,653.
Ford sales UK 2015 in total 335,267 vehicles
Ford Sales UK 2024 in total 109,955 Vehicles.
As I said, Ford, UK is becoming an irrelevance.
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Interesting that the top seller now would just get into the top 10 back in 2015. A much wider choice of models now i think.
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We looked at the Ford range before coming to the conclusion that the Superb was best fit.
Kuga might have been on the fringes but nothing really fitted the bill.
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>> Ford have lost the plot in Europe, dumping their best sellers,
Yup, and what a wasted opportunity reintroducing the Capri. Bland generic SUV box - again!!!!
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I loved the way they kept some of the original Capri style by fitting tyres that are round and black.
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>>Ford have lost the plot in Europe, dumping their best sellers,
That's only the last few years. Ford's problems go back a lot longer.
The Car Market in the UK has changed. My first car was new Cortina 1966.
At the time the choices were BMC, Vauxhall, Rootes, Triumph, VW, Renault, (and the various names they sold under). All much of a muchness as regards reliability etc etc VW were better
1970s - Japanese cars started to appear (radios as standard)
1980s - Korean Cars 3 year warranty growing to 5year/7 year warranty
We now have cars from all over the world quality of most makes has improved way beyond what we knew 40 -60 years ago.
Ford plods on on the same path - some great sellers - Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo AND horror stories of engines that blew up, auto gearboxes that failed. Despite addressing problems with eco-boom engines in the US + the auto gearboxes Ford Europe were in denial.
Then along comes EVs - Ford slow to respond and relying basically on buying in from the likes of VW.
Ford used to be 25% of the UK market when I was young - Now beaten by VW, Audi, BMW/Kia+Hyundai & Ford just marginally higher than MB.
For the first 30 years of my car buying / company cars it was Ford, Vauxhall, Peugeot - for the last 30 years it has been Honda, Nissan & Mazda - all 6 infinitely more reliable than the 40+ cars in my first 30 years.
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>> There was a Ford garage 2 miles from me - getting on 80+ years under
>> 3 owners.
>> 12 months ago Jaecoo & Omoda signs went up.
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>> Garage owner was asked why?
>> Answer - Ford have stopped making cars my business and private customers buy - Fiesta
>> was the best seller to private owners.
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>> This morning I passed the garage - 2 huge car transporters with large 6/7 Jaecoo
>> SUVs to be unloaded.
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The large Jaecoo SUVs now offered by the former Ford garage are hardly Fiesta replacements!
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Isn’t the Puma effectively a replacement for the Fiesta?
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Different Customer set from the previous Fiesta /Focus brigade
Some of the Jaecoo SUVs cost the same / less as a some other medium sized SUVs, saloon and estate cars
The former Fiesta customers are down at the Hyundai or Kia outlets buying i10s & i20s/ Picantos, Mazda, Suzuki dealers etc
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>> The former Fiesta customers are down at the Hyundai or Kia outlets buying i10s &
>> i20s/ Picantos, Mazda, Suzuki dealers etc
Or Skoda/Seat for Fabias or equivalent although I think Seat are further down the SUV rabbit hole.
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I doubt Ford are mourning the loss of their Fiesta customers. Ultimately they lost money on making small cars hence their change of direction towards l more expensive up market and electric vehicles. Whether they will be successful is a moot point.
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>> I doubt Ford are mourning the loss of their Fiesta customers.
If they lost money what were they doing wrong?
Or was the loss actually insufficient profit, or prestidigitation about allocation of costs that made it look like a loss maker?
How can VAG get by making Polos, Fabias and Ibizas etc without losing cash?
Do PSA/Stellantis still make decent small ICE cars following in the footsteps of the Pug 107s both my bin lids had?
Cheapest car sold in the UK is, I think, the (electric) Dacia Spring.
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If they lost money what were they doing wrong?
Not charging enough. Margins on small mass market cars are as low as 1%.
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>> If they lost money what were they doing wrong?
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>> Not charging enough. Margins on small mass market cars are as low as 1%.
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Basically Ford were making their money on spares and fixing the cars they sold you. Well that explains the Ford wet belt Eco Boom design.
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May I vote for prestidigitation as today's special word?
This is the first time I have used it today and I think it's a nice word.
Prestidigitation - that will be my pet word now. But if I use it inappropriately, you will tell me - won't you?
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>> Prestidigitation - that will be my pet word now. But if I use it inappropriately,
>> you will tell me - won't you?
My usage relates to performing magic, like a conjuror does.
Is the word of French origin?
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Prestidigitateur - French Magician
1st Year French in 1958 and it has stuck in my head and recalled.
Huge volume of 79 years of learning is still known but I cannot be recall it - names, faces, facts............ it's slipping away.
Google is a saviour as a few key words gets the answer.
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A French magician is a person with agile fingers then.
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Duncan strolls to Weatherspoons,
On a breezy Friday noon.
With a wand (or maybe pint),
He makes the lager sparkle bright!
Prestidigitation, quick as a trick,
Turns chips to gold and foam to thick.
The crowd all cheers, "Encore, my friend!"
At Spoons, the magic never ends.
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Oh God the end is nigh,
Zero’s writing poems with AI.
Or perhaps something far far worse,
This is his very own bad verse.
Last edited by: CGNorwich on Tue 23 Sep 25 at 18:36
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He's a poet
And he don't know it
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The internet tells me
Fastest Variant
2023 IONIQ 6 Limited Dual-Motor Long Range (20" wheels) 0–60 mph: 4.3 seconds ¼ mile: 13.1 seconds @ 104 mph
Slowest Variant
2023 IONIQ 6 SE Long Range (18" wheels) 0–60 mph: 6.2 seconds ¼ mile: 14.8 seconds @ 95 mph
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Official is 7.4s for my 228bhp RWD
AWD 325bhp is 5.1s to 62mph.
The Ioniq 5N variant is roughly 650bhp and 0-60 in 3.4s.
The only just over £40k MG IM5 Performance has 740bhp, 0-60 3.2s....
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Hyundai - New car time - zippy
