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New Fri 4 Jul 25 15:26 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - maltrap
After seeing the tragic outcome from the Diogo Jota crash in Spain.
If ever I can afford a vehicle made from carbon fibre I ‘ll give it a miss.
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New Fri 4 Jul 25 21:14 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - CGNorwich
Nothing to do with carbon fibre. Everything to do with testosterone and overconfidence I suspect.
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New Sat 5 Jul 25 12:36 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - Bobby
Everything to do with a car busting into flames.
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New Sat 5 Jul 25 23:07 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - legacylad
Initial reports were of a burst tyre whilst overtaking.
Tragically these things happen, though in such circumstances I suppose both car & tyre manufacturers will be covering their asses.
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New Sun 6 Jul 25 01:22 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - Terry
The crash is being investigated, the "blow-out" explanation is just a (barely plausible) holding explanation.:

- they do not know what the cause was
- the fire would likely destroy any evidence of a blow out - unless the deflated tyre rolled free
- from the limited photos of the accident scene, the car seems to have disintegrated

This leads to a number of possibilities:

- a blow out within the legal limit (120kph) could cause the damage sustained
- there were some gross faults in the cars structure - adhesives, resins etc
- the car was travelling at completely irresponsible speeds

F1 cars are substantially carbon fibre based - drivers can run into safety barriers etc at speeds of 150mph+ and often simply walk away. A road going car with space for occupants may not have the crash resistance of an F!.

I assume (perhaps wrongly) that a car with the performance of a Lambo is designed with rather better crash protection that the average family hatch. At "normal" speeds I would expect the occupants (assuming belted) to walk away or with minor injuries.
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New Sun 6 Jul 25 18:34 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - Zero

>> I assume (perhaps wrongly) that a car with the performance of a Lambo is designed
>> with rather better crash protection that the average family hatch.

Indeed a wrong assumption, they are designed to meet the lowest applicable legal safety standards in force at point of sale, for reasons of weight saving.
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New Sun 6 Jul 25 22:06 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - bathtub tom
I recall the warnings for early Lotus: remember, you're sitting outside the chassis!
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New Tue 8 Jul 25 11:29 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - John F
>> - a blow out within the legal limit (120kph) could cause the damage sustained
..but unlikely
>> - there were some gross faults in the cars structure - adhesives, resins etc
but unlikely
>> - the car was travelling at completely irresponsible speeds
almost certainly well in excess of the limit; at that time of night this fast road would have been very quiet.

Also - tyre(s) pressures may have been dangerously low. Assuming a warning system, this may have been ignored. If all tyres were uniformly neglected and low, the wheel sensors would presumably not detect a problem.

Also, there were probably many gallons of high octane fuel on board for the long journey.

But the root cause was probably human incompetence, carelessness (including intoxication) or perhaps a brotherly altercation. We shall probably never know.

Last edited by: John F on Tue 8 Jul 25 at 11:31
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New Tue 8 Jul 25 14:55 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - martin aston
I am pretty sure it will have had a direct TPMS system, showing actual psi. So if there was a slow puncture it would have shown some sort of warning notifying which wheel and pressure. No use though if it was sudden catastrophic failure of a fully inflated tyre.
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New Tue 8 Jul 25 16:38 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - legacylad
A large empty country out with the cities and coastal areas.
In my cross country trips across Spain I see a lot of dead roadside animals, and can well imagine an encounter with wild boar where you instinctively swerve and suffer catastrophic repercussions.

I try never to drive in the dark, no matter what road it is.
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New Tue 8 Jul 25 17:40 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - Terry
There are all manner of unexpected reasons why an accident may have occurred - blow out, wild animal, brake failure, landslide, sudden snowstorm etc etc etc.

However it should be evident from the wreckage, however badly burnt, whether the damage is consistent with a 70mph or 170mph impact.

Further speculation is pointless until a final report is available.
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New Wed 9 Jul 25 01:44 
 Diogo Jota tragedy - henry k
>> >> - a blow out within the legal limit (120kph) could cause the damage sustained
>> ..but unlikely
Jota's car was probably speeding before fatal crash, Spanish police say

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4l1n45l1xo
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