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When I stop at light controlled pedestrian crossings, I often get a motorcyclist ~ in summer there are lots of them in our small seaside town ~ stop alongside me on my right hand side. When the lights change in my favour, just for fun I always try to beat the motorcyclist away from the lights. Said motorcyclist invariably shows their annoyance. Why? After all, it's them that have put themselves into a hazardous position, not me.
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Look at from their point of view, they have the mobility to get to the front of the queue, usually have the acceleration to get away from you and then you try to race them?
I don't think its annoyance, just a wish to get away from a possible madman (sorry, potential danger to their safety!)... ;-)
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Read the highway code they are entitled to do just that as are pedal cyclists on the left hand side.Its you who are committing an offence and putting lives in danger.Driving like that your an accident waiting to happen.
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>> Read the highway code they are entitled to do just that
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No overtaking in the zigzags ?
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>> >> Read the highway code they are entitled to do just that
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>> No overtaking in the zigzags ?
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I've checked the above posts and can't see any mention of Zebra crossings, so this does not apply. If you mean diagonal white lines, you can cross them provided they do not have a solid border.
PS - I don't ride anymore but when I did I always went to the front when I could. If anybody tried to race me from the lights, I never noticed it because even normal acceleration from my bikes was too quick for cars.
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I beg your pardon, I've just noticed the pedestrian crossing comment. Agreed, no overtaking on Zig-Zags.
a900ss
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>>I don't think its annoyance, just a wish to get away from a possible madman<<
Indeed, I was also thinking along those lines :)
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>> Look at from their point of view, they have the mobility to get to the
>> front of the queue, .............
We're both at the front of the queue, and I was there first. They put themselves in the hazardous position of stopping alongside me on my right. Duh!
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>> We're both at the front of the queue, and I was there first. They put
>> themselves in the hazardous position of stopping alongside me on my right. Duh!
Yes, "duh!". It's only dangerous because you make it so.
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>> >> We're both at the front of the queue, and I was there first. They
>> put
>> >> themselves in the hazardous position of stopping alongside me on my right. Duh!
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>> Yes, "duh!". It's only dangerous because you make it so.
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It's dangerous because they have to make a slow and exaggerated weave in front of me to get themselves back onto the correct side of the road before they collide with traffic starting off from the other side of the crossing.
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>> When I stop at light controlled pedestrian crossings, I often get a motorcyclist ~ in
>> summer there are lots of them in our small seaside town ~ stop alongside me
>> on my right hand side. When the lights change in my favour, just for fun
>> I always try to beat the motorcyclist away from the lights.
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What are you going to do the day you hit one of them or run over the foot that is holding them upright ?
Sorry mate it was just a bit of fun will probably not work by way of apology.
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> What are you going to do the day you hit one of them or run
>> over the foot that is holding them upright ?
You mean when they put a foot under my wheels as I start off?
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>> You mean when they put a foot under my wheels as I start off?
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No, the piece of road they got to and occupied before you :)
As a bit of fun they may decide to delay moving off and you have just driven into or over them.
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>> When the lights change in my favour, just for fun
>> I always try to beat the motorcyclist away from the lights. Said motorcyclist invariably shows
>> their annoyance. Why? After all, it's them that have put themselves into a hazardous position,
>> not me.
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In the event that this isn't a wind-up, I'd comment that racing on the highway used to be the offence in what you're doing - now caught under the catch-all of dangerous driving.
In any case, what a remarkably silly and dangerous thing to do. What are you looking to achieve? Will it be when you end up
1) knocking off a biker who hasn't realised what you're doing, or forcing them into the path of oncoming traffic
2) mowing down a pedestrian who hasn't realised that you're having an impromptu bout of traffic light drag racing
3) getting thumped by a biker who takes umbrage at your behaviour
4) being prosecuted?
Filtering to the front of a queue of traffic is a perfectly legal form of road behaviour. Get over it, and for goodness' sake grow up.
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I was going to comment, but I don't think I can improve on PaulB's points. Utterly moronic and pointless aggression on your part snail.
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Unless it has a TVR or Caterham badge on it, it's usually in my rear view mirrors by the time its rear wheels have crossed the stop line. Such is the acceleration performance difference between even a modest bike, and most everyday cars, it's not a race anyway. It's a whitewash.
People in cars trying to race me off the lights don't wind me up. I just wonder why anyone would bother trying, quite honestly.
As has been pointed out, filtering is perfectly legal.
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I'm struggling to see the problem here, why shouldn't L'escargot take off at any pace he wants? Nothing to stop the bike pulling in behind him.
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BBD, in some ways you're right, but the whole system works on an expectation that people don't drive like morons.
An example - I filtered onto a roundabout the other day on the A446. A Mondeo was just joining from the entrance before mine, but I should have had plenty of space. Turns out that although he was moving from stationary, he was driving like his pants were on fire, so despite my carrying plenty of speed on and having a decent gap, he nearly ran into the side of me and then sat about 50 cm from my bumper and leaning on the horn all the way to the M42 roundabout about a mile down the road.
Was I in the wrong? Partly yes, but had he been driving 'normally' then he would not have come within 10 m of me. I'd not expected him to be treating the road like a race track.
Assumption can cause all sorts of problems when people act outside of norms, and given a bikers vulnerability and their completely legal (and indeed expected) actions, snail *deliberately* puts them at unnecessary risk for no reason I can discern.
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Of course BBD is right. The gastropod didn't say he tried to run over their feet or swerved about to alarm them. He just said he tried to out-accelerate them.
Normally the bike would be away well before a car. But if the biker was in a leisurely mood escargot might get in front.
What on earth is all this faffing about dangerous or moronic driving? Bunch of damn turkeys.
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On a good day your posts can be seen as humorous, well informed or perhaps challenging. On a bad day you're rude and offensive. By calling people Damn Turkeys you're the latter and have descended to unpleasant name calling. People don't need to be lectured by the likes of you on a matter which has, perhaps, raised hackels somewhat. We all have a view and don't agree with each others points of view and most put them politely.....I object to being referred to as a Damn Turkey and respectfully request withdrawal of your unpleasant references.
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snip!
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MODS!!............ Do you honestly consider that this is the kind of post neeeded here.
No, hence its removal
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>> What on earth is all this faffing about dangerous or moronic driving? Bunch of damn
>> turkeys.
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Why the faffing? Because there is far too much aggression on the roads already, and our man here (if, as I've said above, this isn't a wind-up) is freely admitting to deliberately provoking more of it.
Quite apart from that, this sort of utterly pointless (and illegal) mucking around has almost unlimited scope for grave consequences if it is misjudged - and it will be, sooner or later. When that happens, "it was just for fun" will cut very little ice.
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>> this sort of utterly pointless (and illegal) mucking around has almost unlimited scope for grave consequences if it is misjudged
The lights change to green. Escargot drives off.
It isn't pointless, it isn't illegal, and it isn't mucking around.
snip! Please give it a rest AC
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Calm down AC, the clue is in the title.
Winding Up
Once you start to deliberately wind up other road users the vehicles (whatever they are) then become a lethal weapon with the potential to kill and injure.
Pat
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>> Calm down AC,
It isn't me that needs to calm down Pat.
A normal Eurobox doing a very rapid start will usually be blown off by even a medium-powered bike. If the biker isn't ready he should be able to pass fairly soon anyway. If its driver is sane he won't feel he is being wound up. He'll just feel he was a bit slow that time.
It isn't these motorcyclists that Escargot is winding up. It's us (or rather, some of us).
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>> A normal Eurobox doing a very rapid start will usually be blown off by even
>> a medium-powered bike.
So, you're saying that he takes pleasure in "winding up" people on lower powered smaller or "classic" motorbikes, or just that because he's trying to "wind up" other road users without success it's OK. You two should join hands.
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>> So, you're saying that he takes pleasure in "winding up" people on lower powered smaller or "classic" motorbikes,
Honestly Fothers. The sober drivers of classic Highway Patrol sidevalve 1926 Indians or genuine Wehrmacht BMWs won't be clustering on the Snail's offside front quarter preparing (or so he claims) to get in his way immediately. They will be where they belong. As for the more virile classics, they can certainly look after themselves.
I agree though that quite a few of the low-powered bike fraternity, in London dominated by pizza deliverers but they have similar things - scooters though - here in France, seem to be kamikazes and idiots half the time although some are very slick. You have to watch out for them. Even they are quite quick off the mark up to about 20mph.
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Ac, I know that and you know that, but the graceful thing to do is not to tell them:)
Pat
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Those who run squealing to teacher
may come to grief one day
behind the bike sheds...
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........"Those who run squealing to teacher
may come to grief one day
behind the bike sheds".......
Clearly aimed at me, AC. Would you care to expand a little?
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Now come on you two, I haven't got time to come over and bang your heads together!
Pat
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>> Would you care to expand a little?
No.
But listen kb: I really didn't mean to cause any real offence to anyone. I think it's absurd of people to be upset by being included in a 'bunch of damn turkeys'.
For example, you called me unpleasant and rude but I don't give a damn. Because I know I am not particularly unpleasant and I am usually only rude (as here) on purpose.
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I dont find being called a "damn turkey" offensive. Its in context.
I am really outraged and offended by the comments he made later. They have since been cut out. I didnt read them because I arrived too late after they were censored.
As they were bad enough to be censored I will consider myself outraged and offended, tho I wish I knew why.
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"As they were bad enough to be censored"
They weren't Zero, they were in line with all his other posts. What's the point in having thumbs up and thumbs down if posts are wiped out as soon as someone's bottom lip starts quivering.
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Then my rights to be amused by a mild insult have been abused then.
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>> "As they were bad enough to be censored"
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>> They weren't Zero, they were in line with all his other posts. What's the point
>> in having thumbs up and thumbs down if posts are wiped out as soon as
>> someone's bottom lip starts quivering.
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What AC said was in response to a post of mine - and I didn't even get to see it before the webmaster pounced.
Bottoms to Snail's attention-seeking. I demand the right to be insulted! Bah.
;-)
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It moved from "turkey" to "gobbling" - which where I'm from has a particular meaning that added an extra dimension to the insult...
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>> Those who run squealing to teacher
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>> may come to grief one day
And those members who cannot abide by the house rules of this forum may have their account temporarily suspended / permanently deleted.
AC, please stop trying to goad other forum members.
Webmaster.
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>> The lights change to green. Escargot drives off.
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>> It isn't pointless, it isn't illegal, and it isn't mucking around.
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That, in isolation, is so - and as you said previously, he can move off as smartly (or not) as he sees fit.
The part with which I have a problem is the deliberate (and admittedly so) attempt to annoy the biker. If that wasn't apparent from what I said, then I'm sorry.
It is that kind of behaviour that is one of the myriad ways in which driving (and riding) in this country is made needlessly unpleasant.
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>> the deliberate (and admittedly so) attempt to annoy the biker
But I don't suppose our gastropod really tries to race these putative bikers through narrowing gaps paulb. He just means 'annoying' them by going off from the lights a bit more quickly than they expect.
Of course he may be a crazed amphetamine-fuelled menace, constantly trying to run people off the road and jumping out of his car with a baseball bat if they seem displeased. In fact it's a charming vision.
But a bit fanciful I have to admit.
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I think if you programme yourself with the assumption that people will drive "normally", you'll come unstuck fairly quickly, whatever you drive. Unless by driving normally, you mean making mistakes, doing the unexpected, driving like a nutter, driving well, driving poorly...
I've never ridden a bike so I wouldn't know but do they always expect to pull off first and just head towards the oncoming traffic? Sounds a tad risky...
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The 'problem' here, BBD is that he is admitting to engaging in a race on public roads "for fun" and endangering all and sundry as described quite succinctly elsewhere in the thread.....if you can't see any of the likely dangers associated with the attitude 'apparently' being shown here, then I would say you're no better.
On the other hand - this is probably a wind up because even if you did engage in said behaviour, you're hardly likely to come here - a mainly sensible bunch - and tell everyone.
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>>On the other hand - this is probably a wind up
You've cracked it, kb.
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>> >>On the other hand - this is probably a wind up
Or at least the OP can pretend it was :-)
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"if you can't see any of the likely dangers associated with the attitude 'apparently' being shown here, then I would say you're no better."
See what I mean about people making assumptions?
"if you did engage in said behaviour, you're hardly likely to come here"
and another one.
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For heaven's sake.
If a motorcyclist has taken the trouble to get to the head of the lights, then presumably the intent is to 'get a move on' when the lights change. Why would any car driver want to impede that when their power to weight ratio will have them fail miserably and/or the next set of traffic will have the bike sail past it all anyway. It's just unnecessary to react like that...and as a biker I do find that irritating.
I also find it irritating as a car driver when a bike does that at the lights and the bike faffs, so i'm held up unnecessarily.
Have some consideration for other road users.
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>>On the other hand - this is probably a wind up
>>Or at least the OP can pretend it was :-)
Lighting the blue touch-paper and retiring is not uncommon hereabouts. Surely there's no need for folk to get so upset.
I was called a muppet yesterday - it didn't ruffle my feathers, though.
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>> was called a muppet yesterday - it didn't ruffle my feathers, though.<<
A muppet with feathers - you're not thinking of Big Bird are you :}
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>> power to weight ratio
Motorbikes are not *all* powerful ones, and not all motorcyclists are experienced in the reprehensible ways of some car and other drivers, and not all motorcyclists drive in the way you seem to indicate. However, all can quite legitimately "filter", and shouldn't be carved up for it.
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>> However, all can quite legitimately "filter", and shouldn't be carved up
>> for it.
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They don't filter. They drive up and stop on the right of me using the right hand side of the road. In fact they stop on the right hand side of the road. I don't try to carve them up, I merely try to assert my right to get away first when the lights change.
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>> If a motorcyclist has taken the trouble to get to the head of the lights,
>> then presumably the intent is to 'get a move on' when the lights change.
On the contrary. More often than not I have to brake as they perform a slow and exaggerated weave in front of me in their effort to avoid a collision with traffic starting off from the other side of the crossing. It's only a narrow road, and they only have the width of the pedestrian crossing in which to get back onto the correct side of the road.
>> Have some consideration for other road users.
They don't need consideration. They just need to learn that having a motorcycle won't get them out of every silly situation in which they put themselves.
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>> They don't need consideration. They just need to learn that having a motorcycle won't get
>> them out of every silly situation in which they put themselves.
This is the same woolly thinking of the IAM guys that follow the line of: 'A car is joining from the sliproad. I am not obliged to move over to allow them to easily join, so I am not going to do so'. Technically correct, but terrible driving in my opinion.
Snail, you are correct that you are entitled to move away as smartly as you wish. The fact that by doing so you are putting a vulnerable road user at deliberate risk because you are technically in the right doesn't, in my mind, excuse your actions. It's at best a bit stupid, especially if there is as little room as you suggest.
And now that I have sounded like a sanctimonious something or other, I shall leave you to it.
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>> The 'problem' here, BBD is that he is admitting to engaging in a race on
>> public roads "for fun" and endangering all and sundry
Don't worry, he'll post soonish to say it was all a bit of fun, he didn't mean it, he doesn't really do it in real life, and all that sort of thing. "Yeah, right".
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What make this traffic light Grand Prix worse IMO, is L'esc is doing it with a dirty windscreen :-D
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>>doing it with a dirty windscreen :-D
Now that really is disgraceful.
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I dont see the point of trying to drag a bike away from a traffic light, there is no skill in in doing so. He is gonne pee all over me and most of the cars available on the road anyway, even if I catch him knapping by milliseconds.
He got to the front of the q, I prefer him up front where i can see him, not scraping his boot down my door panel.
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"I prefer him up front where i can see him"
In his tight leathers?
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it might be george michael.
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Not for the next couple of weeks at least...
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"Yeah, right".
There is more to 'engaging in a race on public roads' than simply taking off rapidly from a traffic light. Or are we supposed to think that is dangerous too?
This thread, especially the offence I seem to have given quite unintentionally to some with self-esteem problems, is being most entertaining.
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There's a few gongs being passed around.
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>> There's a few gongs being passed around.
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Hopefully the bell will ring soon, and the playground start to empty......
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A German mate of mine speaks otherwise excellent english. However, in conversation, he used to refer to people of turkish origin as "Turkeys". Which I found most amusing.
Someone has subsequently corrected him so he doesn't say it any more and also gave me a ticking off for never correcting him.
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Ok pedantic head on, sitting at traffic lights, bike comes alongside, lights turn to green.
At what point is the biker possibly going to be charged for overtaking at a junction / lights or the car driver undertaking?
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>> a few gongs being passed around.
Yes. I've handed out a few myself. Legion d'honneur for party stalwarts, wooden spoon for enemies and persecutors.
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>> Don't worry, he'll post soonish to say it was all a bit of fun, he
>> didn't mean it, he doesn't really do it in real life, and all that sort
>> of thing.
No way Pedro!
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So in my car I stop on the white line and I am at the right hand side adjacent to the white middle of line markings
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You MUST stop behind the white ‘Stop’ line across your side of the road unless the light is green. If the amber light appears you may go on only if you have already crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to stop might cause a collision.
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 36]
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You MUST NOT move forward over the white line when the red light is showing. Only go forward when the traffic lights are green if there is room for you to clear the junction safely or you are taking up a position to turn right. If the traffic lights are not working, treat the situation as you would an unmarked junction and proceed with great care."
how many times do you see bikes coming down the outside and across your front to do this?
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Perhaps the OP should learn to ignore the motorcyclist.
It's a tactic he's been known to use elsewhere.
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Touche (with an accent)
Pat
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Can l'Es recommend an equivalent technique for dealing with the bikers using the Harry Potter lane* at 70 mph on the M4 this evening? Don't worry, I do my best to keep clear of the idiots, but one day one of them is going to make me late for my tea by getting predictably and avoidably squished.
* Two (or even one) and three quarters
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I can't see how bikers are really going to be annoyed or upset by someone trying to race them. They move off from the traffic lights, they see a car's front in their rear view mirror rising and falling in an attempt to keep up with them, and a contorted face filling up the windscreen, so they just give it another squirt of throttle and they're gone. As Zero says, I'd rather have them in front where I can see them, as I know they'll leave me for dead when the road is clear. The thing I don't like is a bike weaving through the traffic behind me and trying to get past me and a central reservation at the same time. Usually chavs on mopeds. But that happens very rarely.
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I think people with a penchant for winding up, or being wound up by, other road users, ought to stick to small cars with a large key on top.
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>> I can't see how bikers are really going to be annoyed or upset by someone
>> trying to race them. They move off from the traffic lights, they see a car's
>> front in their rear view mirror rising and falling in an attempt to keep up
>> with them, ..............
Unfortunately the road layout isn't like that. The motorcyclist can't get themselves into the position of being to be able to accelerate away as you suggest. They have to weave in front of me over the width of the crossing to get a clear road ahead. It's easy for you to imagine a scenario in which the motorcyclist has the chance to get in front of me. But they haven't, because they're level with me and on the right hand side of the road, immediately before the lights controlled pedestrian crossing. If they did as you suggest they'd have a head on crash with traffic starting off from the other direction. They rely on me holding back until they're weaved in front of me. I don't always feel that way inclined. Why should I, since I was there first? Don't evade that question by coming up with your own imagined scenario.
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TBH, I think the whole thing is imagined, the only way snailey is gonna get his dog slow knackered old Focus in front of a bike, is if its a vespa or something equally dog slow.
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>> Don't evade that question by coming up with your own imagined
>> scenario.
Based on the information you've given me, I don't see what the problem is apart from a bruised ego.
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>> The motorcyclist can't get themselves into the position
>> of being to be able to accelerate away as you suggest. They have to weave
>> in front of me over the width of the crossing to get a clear road
>> ahead.
So why don't you reform your aggressive technique, and leave space in front of your car so that they can get into it.
>> Why should I, since I was there first?
Blah de blah. I'm damn' glad most people don't drive in such a stupid and selfish manner. The ones which do, in lorries, cars, motorbikes - all stand out as utter herberts.
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>> So why don't you reform your aggressive technique, and leave space in front of your
>> car so that they can get into it.
When you stop at the line of a lights controlled pedestrian crossing there isn't any room in front of your car. If you left room for a motorcycle (which might or might not appear) in front you'd soon get horn hoots from the vehicles behind.
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>>I can't see how bikers are really going to be annoyed or upset by someone trying to race them/,<<
Can`t you?! which big hairy biker on a superbike would like to, (or have to ) admit to being burnt off by a Snail!!
Personal view is: either of the front line two (car or bike) are allowed to accelerate from 0 - 20/30 as fast or slow as they desire, the slower of the two should automatically fall in behind, the safety issue is then on the following driver to read the road and allow room for the vehicle infront to pull-in without rear-ending it.
There!
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>> >>I can't see how bikers are really going to be annoyed or upset by someone
>> trying to race them/,<<
>> Can`t you?!
No I can't. If a big hairy biker on a superbike was burnt off by a snail, he wasn't expecting a race with a ton of hatchback with a lawnmower engine or he stalled :-)
Anyway, the clue's all in the title of the thread - Winding up motorcyclists. Not a good idea as you don't know who the nutter is behind that matt black helmet.
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L'es, are you sure that your windscreen doesn't need a thorough wash while waiting for the lights to change?
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Wind-ups aren't peculiar to Focus-pedalling gastropods. One of my favourite tricks for dealing with would-be drag racers in a sequence of traffic lights is to wait till the third or fourth set, then release the truck's handbrake before the lights change; being higher up I can often see the other lights better and time the job to perfection. Car driver has got attuned to listening for the hiss of air, drops clutch, jerks forward then stalls car as he panics and realises lights are still against him. Lights then turn green, as does the car driver when he realises he's been had!
I hasten to add that I never do this when there are pedestrians waiting to cross.
On a slightly different note; why is it that drivers nowadays seem to ignore the white line at traffic lights so blatantly?
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>> then release the truck's handbrake before the lights
Trucks can be sharks.
A truck massively out dragged my wee L reg 1.1 fiesta (first car). I couldn't catch him at all, that wee car was nippy up to ~45mph, but no joy.
The old man took me out for a spin in a tractor unit, good few years ago now but i remember the brakes were insanely good.
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Can you overtake a vehicle waiting at a pedestrian crossing? Whether Bike, car or bigger.
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I'm bemused by the whole thing.
It's bad practice, if not illegal, to overtake on a crossing which is what the biker is clearly about.
Snail taking off smartly is not illegal in itself. However he's rather left himself open to challenge by suggesting he's racing.
As a general comment, if you're diverting your attention to tweaking another road user's nose, you're probably not paying as much attention elsewhere as you should be.
I can't bring myself to point the finger though - bikers are a pain in the posterior with this kind of thing, putting themselves in the most unpredictable positions, arriving at inappropriate speeds, overtaking either side in lines of traffic where drivers' views to the rear are obstructied, then acting all innocent when somebody doesn't see them.
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Just thought I'd clarify.
This morning I was at a pelican crossing and as the lights turned green, a MB came down along the outside on the other side of the white line past the line of waiting traffic behind me, and as oncoming traffic was held at the lights, he thought he had a clear path, and accelerated between me and the car on the opposite side of the crossing. Totally nuts. What if there had been an older member of society still crossing. It is a crossing outside two schools so a smaller child might have not been seen by the MB rider. He only got 50 yards to the next junction set of lights.
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>> Just thought I'd clarify.
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>> This morning I was at a pelican crossing and as the lights turned green,
>> a MB came down along the outside >>
MB? what model of Mercedes-Benz was this?
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I thimk the Snail's having a bit of fun....God bless his silver trail !
As a biker and driver, I've never had any problem with the ' other ' I come up along the offside at red lights, never a pedestrian crossing, though. I know that I'm going to be long gone by the time the driver has got into !st gear. I'll be no problem to him, after all, i can get from a standing start to about 115 mph without changing gear !
0 to 60 takes me about 5 seconds.......similar to a Boxter. So a Focus hasn't a chance.
Sometimes, if I'm in a mimsy mode, I'll stay behind the line of cars and just pobble along with them when the green comes up.
Just depends on the mood I'm in. Never have a problem with a biker doing it to me when I'm in the car.....never even think about it.
So there !
Ted
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Ted, you (and a lot of the others) seem to be imagining a road layout which doesn't apply. I might just as well have been talking to a brick wall.
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What bond were they laid in?
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He wouldn't stand much chance at the traffic lights with a Bond.
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Its the Lincolnshire wolds, he meant dry stone wall.
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This thread drift is really getting to me...
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I'm surprised its still going!
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>> I'm surprised its still going!
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Only 8 to go to reach the magical 100. Come on guys, don't hold back!
:-D
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Reading some of these posts is like a bunch of 6 year olds in a playground having a spat!
There. We're a bit closer to one hundred.
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Never let go of the child within.
How close now?
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Happy to contribute to your century L'escargot unless of course I'm on the persona non grata list !
:-)
I don't really mind what bikes do. I quite like them and wish I had a licence. Might just go for it yet. I'd quite enjoy filtering up to the head of queues I think.
Last edited by: Humph D'bout on Fri 1 Oct 10 at 17:25
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I thought it was only a proper 100 if the OP did not post replies to the thread.
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Your bending the rules.
And the person who types "this is the 100th reply" and its not, has to buy C4P regulars a round.
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In Churchillian (war leader, not dog) tones:
"Never, in the field of motoring forums, was so much written by so many about so little".
Last edited by: Old Sock on Fri 1 Oct 10 at 20:16
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..."Never, in the field of motoring forums, was so much written by so many about so little"...
That may be so, but there's some very stiff competition out there.
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>> I quite like them and wish I had
>> a licence. Might just go for it yet. I'd quite enjoy filtering up to the
>> head of queues I think.
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Go for it Humph. It's not going to get any easier. These are tomorrow's good old days. I came to biking late and haven't regretted a moment; Mrs H enjoys the pillion too.
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Are there biking couples where she goes in front and he clings on behind? Or is it one of the last true bastions of caveman chauvinism?
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>> ... she goes in front and he clings on behind?
And not only motorcyclists, I'll be bound
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>> Are there biking couples where she goes in front and he clings on behind? Or
>> is it one of the last true bastions of caveman chauvinism?
I think this is as much down to physics as chauvinism, WDB. SWMBO struggles to hold a bike upright when stationary with me on the back. Partly weight, and partly that her feet are on tippytoes on most bikes anyway.
I would be more than happily go pillion with her, but she doesn't feel comfortable with it.
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I understand that when i'm on the back of a bike, it's like having very light power steering.
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I won't go on the back of a motorbike with anyone. A friend took me from central London to Oxford on his bike about 30 years ago. It didn't take long. I'll never ever let anyone, no matter how good they claim to be do that again, uh uh, no way Jose, no chance !
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Half Crown/Threepenny bit perchance????
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ive never been on the back of a bike and never intend to either
first bike i got on was a honda 50 and crashed it into the fence at the bottom of the garden there were so many levers and things to push and pull i just got confused............
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>> ....there were so many levers and things to push
>> and pull i just got confused............
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Sounds like me with cars.
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>> Half Crown/Threepenny bit perchance????
If that means what I think it does then no, I was too terrified have any noticeable bodily functions at all both during the experience and for some considerable time afterwards.
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Just spotted this thread, and I am as guilty as the snail! Only I did it in an articulated tractor units with no trailer on. 6 tonnes & 500BHP can do 0-30mph faster than some others expect!
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About 4.30am tomorrow expect a well worded scolding V50..;)
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>> If that means what I think it does then no, I was too terrified have
>> any noticeable bodily functions at all both during the experience and for some considerable time afterwards.
I can identify with that. About 15 years ago a colleague took me out on the back of his CBR600. We flew around the back roads of Cheshire at what he told me afterwards was at speeds of up to 100mph. When I was finally prised off the pillion seat I found my knees were shaking uncontrollably and I wandered around for several hours in a sort of dreamlike state probably from coming down off a serious adrenalin overdose.
Never again, ever.
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Winding up motorcyclists - hobby
