| Motoring Discussion > Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present | |
| Thread Author: hawkeye | Replies: 37 |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 18:33
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - hawkeye
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With Mrs H's car being 8 years old and mine being 14 years old, it's about time I reported a change of vehicle. I have just bought a 2004 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 (petrol) SE with about 74K miles recorded. Known faults are aircon making a gurgling noise, a rust blemish on the OSF wheel arch and reverse sensors not working. It's got a good history, been maintained by a Jaguar specialist and I can't see any corrosion or welding underneath. It drives nicely with immaculate automatic changes, a beefy surge from the engine and no knock or bangs from underneath, even over speed humps. All the electric toys seem to work, the tyres are good, the exhausts are new, the driver's seat is intact and it comes with a heated front screen and 2 working remote keys. This brings to a halt my search for a reasonable and cheap S-Type and maybe opens a possible money-pit. Back in 1974, as a youth, I had an original '67 3.4 S auto (without power steering) which I cherished. It's too embarassing to report why I sold it but I didn't know any better. In about 2001, my bil and I went to a Jaguar-sponsored test drive day. We tried an S-Type and an X-Type and hooned around Saltburn for an hour or two and were treated to a pleasant lunch. There was some immature tyre-squealing round a roundabout and bil (Class A Police driver) did a little rapid driving for our entertainment. I thought it would be splendid to have an S-Type of my own. One day. About March time I started a tentative search for a Jaguar. I've looked at S-Types and XJs and seen many tired old dogs. I've been lied to, gazumped and generally messed around, but I've persisted. Rather like this post. I pick it up Boxing Day. Wish me luck. What could possibly go wrong? |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 18:36
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - No FM2R
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I hope nothing goes wrong, what an outstandingly good present to give yourself. I do hope it's all you have been wanting. Happy Christmas (well, Boxing Day in this case). |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 18:44
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - R.P.
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| Nice choice. Always had a hankering...Colour ? |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 19:25
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Zero
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| Now THATS what a call a new years resolution. |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 20:59
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - henry k
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>> I hope nothing goes wrong, what an outstandingly good present to give yourself. >> I do hope it's all you have been wanting. >> Welcome to the Jaguar owners club. If you have not already done so , also have a look at a couple of Jaguar forums :- Jaguarforum - mostly UK folks but also worldwide. Jaguarforums -mostly USA folks but some UK members. There are other forums but I rarely visit them. Next year a STR ? >> Happy Christmas (well, Boxing Day in this case). I endorse that. |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 20:34
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - PeterS
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| Im a big fan of buying older cars to scratch an itch, so fingers crossed! I, to date, haven’t had my fingers badly burnt, or indeed burnt at all really. Modernish cars are, on the whole, pretty reliable in my experience! |
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New Sun 23 Dec 18 20:55
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Kevin
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>What could possibly go wrong? Be aware that something as simple as a routine service could cause you big problems and potentially write it off. To replace three of the sparkplugs on that engine it needs the upper and lower inlet manifold to be removed. The lower manifold (which also houses injectors) is made of plastic and contains captive nuts to retain the upper manifold. The captive nuts have a habit of coming loose if they are not treated with respect. Replacements are no longer available from Jaguar so it's ebay, breakers yard or a custom fix if they come loose. I think the plugs are good for 100k miles on that engine so, if I were you, I'd take it to a Jag specialist and ask them if it's worthwhile changing the plugs now before secondhand manifolds become scarce. Otherwise, after owning Jags for nearly 20yrs now - good luck and welcome to the gentlemans club on wheels. |
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New Mon 24 Dec 18 21:27
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - hawkeye
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Thank you for your comments and useful info. The colour is burgundy red Rob. If Mrs H says "It's just a car" once more I will not be responsible for my actions, although she did count out £500 in notes towards the cost yesterday. No idea where it came from. Roll on Boxing Day; can't wait. 50 miles up the A1 in the dark to take it home. Updates to follow. Happy Christmas everyone! |
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New Mon 24 Dec 18 21:32
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - MD
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Good luck matey. NOW, find out where she had the readies hidden:-) Oh! And try not to reveal where yours are. :-):-) |
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New Tue 25 Dec 18 10:46
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Zero
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I dont want to rain on your parade and make you regret your purchase, but you will be ruddy annoyed you missed out on this opportunity instead www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2379367922138337 |
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New Tue 25 Dec 18 12:06
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - henry k
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| Zero - your back garden ? |
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New Thu 27 Dec 18 18:04
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - hawkeye
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I picked the car up In Wakefield with my elder son. I put my pride in my pocket and asked the seller to reverse the car down a tricky kinked alley before I took over. Son and I went off to fill it up with petrol. The fuel filler which had twitched when I tested it 3 days before stayed resolutely shut so I had to prise it open with a credit card. Then we wafted across Wakefield to find son's wife who had trapped herself in a pay-to-exit car park with no cash. The 50 mile journey home turned into nearly 80 miles as I diverted to Leyburn and back. The headlamps are pathetic; the lenses need polishing and the bulbs upgrading to my favourite Night Breakers. The whole driving experience from opening the door and seeing the steering wheel lift out of the way for the driver to slide in, to selecting the entirely unnecessary sport mode and booting it, is just what I was after. It feels special to drive, the driving position and steering suit me and it's an effortless thing to get around the place in. 240 bhp is the most power I've ever used on a public road, and it tingles the back of my neck to floor it and hear the V6 motor wind itself up. When I got home I immersed myself in the instruction manuals and realised I could, among other things, associate the seat and steering wheel settings with a remote key fob. I found 7 years of receipts revealing that it had spark plugs and a manifold lift about 8K miles ago (Kevin, thanks for the heads up) including a receipt from Halfords for a new battery in 2017. This morning the fuel flap has responded to a squirt of WD40 and I have addressed myself to refitting the knob that releases the rear seat and to finding out why the battery is secured with a daisy chain of cable ties. The bolt holding the battery retaining bar goes through the boot floor and is rusted solid. Some gorilla has wrung the head off the bolt, but the best (worst) bit is that the horizontal tongue at the base of the battery is thicker than it should be so it doesn't fit the locating slot in the battery tray. It was the work of a few seconds to take the moulded packing piece off so the battery fitted properly. My question is, why couldn't Halfords take the packing piece off so the battery fitted properly? It cost an MoT pass. So why then couldn't the Jag indie drill the bolt out and replace it instead of faffing aroud with cable ties and making it look like a Macramé exercise? Enough for now lest I test your reading stamina, except to say I'm lucky to have missed out on Zero's back garden find. Thanks for the heads-up Mr Z and you'll be pleased to know I won't be troubling you when I need my next motor ;) France tomorrow in the C8 because I have a dining table and chairs to take to Mrs H's family. We'll be a party of 6 in the house and when it's time to go into town I'll be the effin' 6-seater taxi driver. Again. Best wishes for 2019 all! |
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New Thu 27 Dec 18 21:39
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Zero
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>> and back. The headlamps are pathetic; the lenses need polishing and the bulbs upgrading to >> my favourite Night Breakers. Just so you dont get disappointed, after polishing the headlamp lenses and fitting your favourite night breakers, the headlamps will still be - pathetic. Anything you can do wont hurt of course, but it will be like putting an extra glow worm in there. The Jag headlamps are renown for being seven shades of darkness worse than night time. I think there are some HID conversions available. The rest of the experience sounds FAB! Last edited by: Zero on Thu 27 Dec 18 at 21:40
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New Thu 27 Dec 18 22:43
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Kevin
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>The Jag headlamps are renown for being seven shades of darkness worse than night time. >I think there are some HID conversions available. I've never had a problem with Jag headlamps, even on the old X308 I had with H7(?) lamps. The factory fit Xenons on my current XJ are noticeably superior though. |
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New Thu 27 Dec 18 22:53
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - henry k
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>> The Jag headlamps are renown for being seven shades of darkness worse than night time. >>>> I think there are some HID conversions available. >> The dip beams on the X type are awful. One of the most frequent complains on forums, followed by the response-" Fit HIDS" I think the latest MoT tests will reject non original HIDs and that has got a lot thinking about reverting to Halogens . |
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New Fri 28 Dec 18 02:36
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - VxFan
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>> I think the latest MoT tests will reject non original HIDs and that has got >> a lot thinking about reverting to Halogens . Quite a few people on the Vectra-C forum still have aftermarket HID kits fitted, and go through MOTs without any problems in that department. Some temporarily revert back to halogen bulbs to be on the safe side. |
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New Thu 27 Dec 18 23:11
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Kevin
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>..to selecting the entirely unnecessary sport mode and booting it, is just what I was after. In normal mode the Jag powertrain "learns" your usual driving style and adjusts accordingly so you will sometimes feel a split-second's hesitation if you suddenly ask for more oomph. Just use the Sport button to warn it that you might be putting your foot down soon. |
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New Sun 17 Feb 19 17:48
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - hawkeye
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Well the ownership experience so far has brought no seriously unpleasant surprises. In fact it's been all about enjoying motoring again. The reverse sensors are working after I remade the conacts behind the rear bumper; the frost proved that the driver's half of the heated windscreen gets hotter than the passenger's but the screen still clears with the wipers; the battery is now securely bolted in place; the air-con 'gurgle' sounds more like an air distribution flap sticking and ticking. The cold air gets down to about 2° when it was 11° outside so I think it's working OK. The headlamps have responded to 3 hours of sanding and polishing and now look new-ish from a distance. Not perfect but they've lost the yellowish tinge they had. Night Breaker bulbs have improved things but, as Zero observed with annoying accuracy, the light output is generally naff. The driver's seat heater, which worked when I went to view the car, has now given up and I haven't a female torx socket to take the seat out and investigate. Yet. I found it had a CD autochanger in the boot so I've tested it with some of Mrs H's music. I still love the ride and the aura that the car has. When we go for coffee, I still try and park it where I can see it and enjoy looking at it. I've taken to leaving the gearbox in Sport mode, not because I want to rort around the place like some teen chav, but because it hangs onto each gear a bit longer and the noise pleases me. Clearly that's one reason why it's doing 19 mpg, but who buys a 15-year-old 3-litre petrol automatic for economy? The C8, laden with furniture, and repeating our 2013 problems ran the other wheel bearing in France. Time was tight and recovery might have compromised getting our flight to India from Manchester, so we borrowed the b-i-l's Skoda Yeti to get home. He needed it back in the UK for insurance reasons while he went off to work in Shanghai. Sorry, this seems to be turning into a blog: more later which you can read or ignore as you please. |
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New Tue 19 Feb 19 23:21
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - MD
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| Well. Later is now. What happened next. I was enjoying it. |
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New Wed 20 Feb 19 08:13
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas present - Clk Sec
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>> I was enjoying it. >> Same here... |
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New Thu 21 Feb 19 20:07
Jaguar S-Type - Christmas and the consequences - hawkeye
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So, going back to December 2018, I'd just bought the Jaguar but had to come to terms with not using it for a while because we had our usual invitation to join Mrs H's family for New Year in France and also looming early in January was a trip to Goa with 3 of our 4 children and their partners. This was to be our first long-haul flight since 1989 and I was fretting (needlessly as it turned out) about security at Manchester Airport, but looking forward to a different type of holiday where caravans and bicyles weren't involved. December 27th dawned and we were on our way to Hull with the C8 loaded with the antique oval folding dining table, chairs and other bric-a-brac that Mrs H's sisters had inherited when their parents died 10 years ago, but we were the only ones with space to keep it. It's been the bane of my life as the furniture has moved around from one house to another and from room to garage to room. Finally, I had to threaten to hand the ensemble over to a charity shop before one of the sisters agreed to take it. As we left the A1 and leaned across the roundabout to the M62 I thought I felt a little caress through the steering as the car's considerable weight moved towards the offside front wheel. By the time we got to the docks, there was an intermittent swish-swish-swish noise and Mrs H noticed and had to be briefed. I guessed it might be a wheel bearing. Should we turn back? What, and miss the party? AND have to keep the table? Not bloomin' likely. Now I'd seen the broken bearing from when the front left gave up in France in 2013. Even if it did make a noise like a WW2 air-raid siren before it was replaced, it was heavy and substantial enough to use as a church door-stop. Based on this highly technical assesment I decided it would last the 250 miles to the family retreat. We have EU recovery (who wouldn't with 4 vehicles with ages totalling 49 years?) in case I was wrong. At the dockside in Zeebrugge I jacked up the car and waggled the wheel top to bottom. There was play and a tick tick as the wheel moved. The optimist in me made me take the wheel off and look carefully for anything loose that could be rubbing on the tyre or driveshaft to give the swish noise. There was nothing. I switched on and put the car in 1st on the jack, but there was no unusual noise with the wheel unloaded. By the time we stopped near St Quentin, the bearing could be felt vibrating through the steering, making my watch strap rattle, and by the time we passed Reims the vibration had knocked out the wheel sensor, the ESP and ABS lights were on and we were cruising at 100kph out of sympathy for the car. We arrived near Chaource and partied and said a long-overdue goodbye to the furniture. January 2 saw me at the local Renault garage that had done the left wheel bearing years before. I watched the garagiste jack up the car and waggle the wheel. The movement could be seen from metres away and it the 'tick' had become a 'clonk'. The C8's details were on the French computer from years ago and an emailed quote, a 'devis', was on my phone before I had started the car to go back to the in-laws'. I got quotes from a couple of local UK garages; the figures were all similar. What to do next? I was all for packing our bags, driving up the road, parking at the next bar, and calling for recovery. This, seemingly simple procedure, was met with horror by Mrs H. She wasn't getting recovered and turning up at home on a flatbed truck at any price. Why? A large part of it may be that she thought it would take so long that we would miss our flight to India. As the purchaser of some 22 Citroen cars over the past 40 years you might expect me to be familiar with the ways of the recovery wizards. I am, but I can't remember Mrs H ever being involved. Anyway, as this discussion took place, b-i-l offered us his 100% reliable (cough) Skoda Yeti to take us to the UK, and garage space in his dusty barn to park the C8. I accepted as I couldn't summon the energy to argue with Mrs H's illogical stance. I bought some insurance for me to drive, I changed the reg. on the ferry booking, nabbed the Autoroute tag from the C8 and we were all set. We partied and feasted some more and the in-laws waved us goodbye. I was to return the Yeti to b-i-l's garage in Halifax on our way to Manchester Airport and our next holiday. This simple move would give the Skoda the required 6 months in the UK to satisfy b-i-l's insurers. I found the Yeti to be quiet, comfortable and relaxing transport. The cruise was set to 120kph, the Autoroute slipped by without incident, apart from being nearly wiped out by a snoozing Spanish artic driver, until we got to Kortrijk when the EML came on and the Yeti had no power to speak of. I blasphemed loudly enough to wake Mrs H and we pulled over to look at the owner's manual. It seemed that not having an ex-Police Class 1 driver at the helm had spooked the Yeti's computer. This car is one that had been subject to the VW diesel nonsense and been modified. B-i-l had joined the class action against VW because the car repeatedly performed DPF regens and the economy was markedly poorer since the work had been done. I've no idea why a few hour's cruise at 75mph would be anything but good for a VW DPF. The manual was little help but I had power when we started up again until we parked up on the boat. I hoped 12 hours rest would give it a chance to sort itself out. Once again the Hawkeye optimism was misplaced and the EML light came on annoyingly often until we left the car parked in Halifax. Mrs H observed that we'd been away less than a week and I'd managed to wreck 2 cars, a comment which I didn't find at all amusing. This was before I backed the Yeti into the garage door frame and scraped the driver's door mirror while looking at the reverse radar display, trying to avoid b-i-l's piano. WTF was his piano doing in his garage, I asked myself. The mirror seems to wiggle around all right but the repeater lens is cracked. I felt as if I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. The Yeti is parked in Halifax at the moment awaiting B-i-l's return from Shanghai in July. I've 'fessed up to the mirror but not mentioned the EML. Yet. All advice welcome. Next part follows in good time whether you like it or not. |
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New Tue 26 Mar 19 18:58
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - hawkeye
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Coupled with the enjoyment of cruising around in my 15-year-old Jaguar is the satisfaction of gradually whittling away at the things to do list. The petrol filler flap refused to open again so I dismantled things in the boot to get to the actuating rod. My hopelessly optimistic squirt of WD40 had evidently just moved some clag to a different place. Now the rod is cleaned up and lubed with silicone spray. I pop the flap open whenever I open the boot to give it some use. Dismantling revealed the emergency release which had been hiding in the boot lining. The fuel filler drain, which had allegedly been cleaned last year, overflowed. I reamed it out with a wiper blade spine attached to an electric drill. Savage but effective. One trip down my mate's muddy farm track is enough to block it again so the drain pipe needs rerouting. The reverse sensors are playing up, but consistently. They don't work first time after starting the car, but are OK after a mile or two. I think it's a voltage issue and am living with it. I've discovered the headamp adjusters are broken. It's a bumper-off job to remove the headlamps and fit one of the many available fixing kits so I've applied a temporary bodge described in one of the Jaguar forums. It's the Brutal fix (after the OP). There's a reset procedure I've applied to the aircon distribution. The noise goes away for a few days, then it's back. I'm living with that also. The left door mirror wasn't responding to settings supposedly held in the memory. Removing the mirror glass, lubing the motors with silicone spray and exercising the adjustment has improved things. This morning's task was to restore the driver's seat heating. Removing the seat (what a beast that seat is!) and getting busy with a multimeter showed a lack of continuity in a skinny wire which headed off to the seat heating pad. Removing a load of cloth binding from the underseat wiring harness revealed a broken wire. It was rerouted, soldered back together, covered in heat-shrink and taped up. Warmth in the nether regions, and not from incontinence either; aaaah! This satisfying fix will have virtually guaranteed us all a tropical start to spring, rendering the heated seat entirely unnecessary, so I'll be accepting any virtual pints you might care to offer me. Cheers! Last edited by: hawkeye on Tue 26 Mar 19 at 18:58
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New Tue 26 Mar 19 19:11
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Zero
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What a fantastic way to enjoy classic car motoring. Of course you buy them to fettle them. |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 09:35
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Fenlander
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A good read Hawkeye. Quite similar to the initial time I had fettling my 2002 BMW 525D which I'll have owned 5yrs next month. Put a bit of effort and cash in over the initial months and through that first year and since then it's been very good to me with pretty well all the work pre-emptive rather than things breaking. It's been an absolute pleasure wafting... sometimes hurtling... about in a well built car of that era. I really hope the S-type goes well for you. However in my case the time has come to say I've more than had my money's worth and wanted to get something a bit newer (but not much). In future I will be style shopping at Burton in a car long championed by Runfer. |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 11:05
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Runfer D'Hills
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It’s pretty inevitable really, sort of a Karma thing. Those who see the light and so on... ;-) |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 11:07
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - tyrednemotional
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....yeah, ......... but a Dacia, really?..... ;-) |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 11:31
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Fenlander
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You just gotta go where the flow takes you really. Anyway just out to the drive to give the carpets a good rug doctoring... obviously been a doggy car from some remaining hairs, light scratching to rear bumper top and a lead left in the spare wheel well... but minimal smell. Leather seats so at they are wipe clean. Last edited by: Fenlander on Thu 28 Mar 19 at 11:35
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 12:18
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Runfer D'Hills
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| “Proper” gearbox this time? |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 13:47
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Fenlander
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Of course Runfer there are two cars you have long championed on here... well three if you count the 4 wheeled might as well have a motorbike thingy... so you may be running your assumption the wrong way. I now have a "proper" 6-spd manual and "proper" front wheel drive. I will chuck a bit of info up later so as not to spoil Hawkeye's thread. Last edited by: Fenlander on Thu 28 Mar 19 at 13:49
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 14:51
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Zero
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>> Of course Runfer there are two cars you have long championed on here... >> >> I now have a "proper" 6-spd manual and "proper" front wheel drive. OMG, you went out and bought a Mondeo. |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 15:23
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Fenlander
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Indeed... just off to Halfords for some bodging materials.... might even be tempted by some new mats with pink binding and some fruit flavour screenwash. I'll put a new thread up later Last edited by: Fenlander on Thu 28 Mar 19 at 15:23
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 15:46
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - hawkeye
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>> >> >> >> I now have a "proper" 6-spd manual and "proper" front wheel drive. >> >> OMG, you went out and bought a Mondeo. >> I doubt it. He'll have followed the example I set in '04. Hope you enjoy your Citroen C8! |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 19:21
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Kevin
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Hawkeye, I have accumulated a few Jaguar training and service pdfs, mostly related to the X350 XJ, but some bits will also be applicable to S-Type particularly engine and pwertrain etc.. There's about 6GB but if you want copies I can drop them on a filehosting site for you to download. |
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New Thu 28 Mar 19 21:17
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Kevin
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I've deleted the SDD binaries (which total nearly 6GB) but here are the zipped pdfs, about half a MB. www.filehosting.org/file/details/790290/X350pdfs.zip If you have trawled the usual Jaguar forums you may already have them. |
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New Fri 29 Mar 19 15:58
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - hawkeye
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Thank you very much Kevin! I've seen a few of these and tried unsuccessfully to get a copy of JTIS to work. These are gold dust to me and hugely appreciated. Thanks also to others who have posted encouraging comments. It's MoT time in May so we'll see what happens then. |
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New Mon 1 Apr 19 00:04
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Kevin
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>I've seen a few of these and tried unsuccessfully to get a copy of JTIS to work. I've seen reports that some folks have managed to get JTIS running in a VM but I haven't tried it so I don't think I can help with that. I think it's a problem with a dependability on some ancient link libraries. >It's MoT time in May so we'll see what happens then. For the MOT find a good Indy specialist. Jags are notoriously hard on suspension bushes which is why they ride so well and also why they are a common MOT failure. A Jag dealer will always want to replace the complete suspension arms (£££s) whereas an indy will just press out and replace the bushes (££s). It's not always easy to tell when they are worn because they wear gradually and the first thing you notice from the drivers seat is a slight wobble when cornering under power on uneven surfaces. If they are worn you will be amazed once they are replaced. Always replace both sides. Worn shock absorber bushes will usually give a slight 'knock' when pulling away with the steering turned eg. at a junction. Again, only the bushes need to be replaced. You sound to be quite handy and willing with a spanner so I'd just go through the items on the MOT test and check what you can before you submit it. |
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New Thu 11 Apr 19 10:57
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - hawkeye
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Kevin thank you again for your words of wisdom. I'm pleased to report that the car passed its MoT yesterday with no advisories confirming my decision that it was the right car to buy. And giving me an excuse to feel smug. I've visited a Jaguar indie garage in Darlington just opposite the Council offices which were my head office when I was doing cycle training. A customer at the garage recommended a Jaguar-only scrapyard nearby. I called in there on Monday to replace some lost/broken engine cover fixings and was given some replacements. I'll say that again, GIVEN. So I immediately laid claim to a sporty mesh grill that I saw peeping out of a pile of S-Types so I could give them some revenue. The car now has mats that fit. It was collected with beefy black mats marked 'Rover' which I replaced with some cheap Ebay 'laser-cut, perfect fit' mats. They were hopeless so they went back. The replacements (from a different seller) are perfect. Pimp my Jag! Maybe I'll regret this, but suggestions welcome for future pimping. Last edited by: hawkeye on Thu 11 Apr 19 at 10:59
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New Thu 11 Apr 19 20:59
Jaguar S-Type - Hammering the to-do list - Kevin
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| I've always thought that the boot lip spoiler as fitted to the STR cleans up the rear end nicely without making it look 'pimped'. |
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