Have guaranteed prices till 2 Dec
unleaded 115.9
premium 119.9
diesel 124.9
only useful if already a cardholder and nearby but though I'd post anyway!
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Great prices.
I am a Costco member, and have two warehouses within half an hour of me, but neither have petrol stations. Hopefully they will roll out more over the coming years.
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I am a Costco member, none of the ones near me have fuel.
My local Asda does tho, consistently the cheapest around here tho and it appears a mere 1p above the Costco price
Last edited by: Zero on Thu 29 Nov 18 at 15:05
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Just checked, my nearest Costcos with fuel is Thurrock/Bristol/Birmingham!!!!
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Asda has a national pricing policy. Morrisons (for instance) hasn't which means that two stores a few miles apart have widely differing prices. (Mind you they now have 10p a litre off in my local store if you spend a certain amount of money in store.)
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Our nearest Costco fuel site is at Dunkirk roundabout in Chester (aka Ellesmere Port) may be worth joining again.
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Makes the 149.9 I paid for Shell V-Power diesel even more of a 'gulp'.
Do use Costco Chester now and again for my old Merc but I'm scared to use anything other than V-Power in wife's EU6 Tiguan - its emissions system is ferociously complicated!
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Fuel here is about 80p litre at the moment.
though there are two weird things I do not understand;
1) It can vary +/- 10p between two petrol stations 1/2 mile from each other.
2) There is no consistency across the fuels. A single petrol station may be the cheapest for 95 by 10/12 p a litre, yet the most expensive in town for 97 by another 10/15p a litre..
I have never worked out the logic behind either.
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>> I'm scared to
>> use anything other than V-Power in wife's EU6 Tiguan - its emissions system is ferociously
>> complicated!
Use 1 fill of V-Power for every three regular, and rev it to the red line at least once every trip.
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We don't have a "branded" fuel station in our town, just a Morrisons and a Sainsburys. Our cars therefore by default usually get filled at one or the other of those, and then only with their cooking brews. None of the low annual miles Qashqai and Aygo, or the high annual miles Merc or any of their predessors have ever had a fuel quality related problem.
There may well be evidence for the benefits of paying more for super fuels but none of my cars have ever had regular doses of it and don't appear to have suffered as a result.
Just have to speak as you find on these things I guess and I'm not for one moment trying to say there's nothing in it, but I do rather suspect that the alleged benefits are somewhat overstated.
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Shell V-Power has been cut by 3p a litre to 132.9p at my local Spar's fuel station within the last week.
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My Focus (1.6 petrol auto) was new to me last May. I didn't know whether it would refer super or ordinary, so I ran it on super over the summer. It had a few tanks, and the trip showed a pretty consistent 47.3 mpg by the end of each tank.
I then tried a few tanks of ordinary, and the trip now shows the same, a consistent 47.3 by the end of each tank.
I do reset it at each fill.
I can detect no difference in driving characteristics or smoothness either. Both types will show up to about 52 mpg on a long cruise, but dropping back down once we do the shorter shopping stuff.
For this particular car, then, I'm not too worried about using super.
I discovered, after six months, a "hidden" display that shows your "Eco score". It says "Very good. Eco Champion" whatever that means in Ford terms.
Last edited by: Crankcase on Fri 30 Nov 18 at 07:57
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Fuel is like engine oil, if it meets the spec (which it must by law) it won't be a problem. Branding is marketing bullshine. How many here have had fuel quality related problems? My car uses 97 octane unleaded, anything else is a waste of money. I realise performance cars may require higher octane fuel.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Fri 30 Nov 18 at 09:47
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>>..anything else is a waste of money. I realise performance cars may require higher octane fuel.>>
It's mainly the additives that bring the cost up for the premium fuel such as Shell V-Power. I use standard unleaded in my car's 1.4-litre 170 Tsi engine for two or three fill ups with one of V-Power or Tesco Momentum in between.
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Can you tell the difference? Is it measurable in real life driving?
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This is very worrying. I am agreeing with you more and more, sailor.
I think there is a load of tosh talked about fuel - and oil - for that matter. Why don't the motoring organisation do something useful for once, and carry out controlled tests under laboratory conditions to determine whether fuel X really does give improved mpg and all the other benefits that it is supposed to?
Absolute load of hogwash.
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>> This is very worrying. I am agreeing with you more and more, sailor.
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>> I think there is a load of tosh talked about fuel - and oil -
>> for that matter. Why don't the motoring organisation do something useful for once, and carry
>> out controlled tests under laboratory conditions to determine whether fuel X really does give improved
>> mpg and all the other benefits that it is supposed to?
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>> Absolute load of hogwash.
There is a lot of hogwash spoken, however,
The premium fuels do contain effective detergents and do keep your engine cleaner, proven fact, and that equates to less agro further down the mileage line.
As for oil, there is a vast difference between oils, and when you go 18k miles from oil change to oil change in a high performance car, the oil you use matters.
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>> As for oil, there is a vast difference between oils, and when you go 18k
>> miles from oil change to oil change in a high performance car, the oil you
>> use matters.
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I totally agree, using the specified oil and fuel does matter. Snake oil marketing designed to do no more than boost profits is a trap many fall for.
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>> The premium fuels do contain effective detergents and do keep your engine cleaner, proven fact,
>> and that equates to less agro further down the mileage line.
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Could you name the fuels that don't contain additives and detergents? Please don't say supermarket fuels, they advertise their cleaning properties, and if millions of cars were damaged someone might notice.
www.regit.cars/car-news/is-supermarket-fuel-bad-for-your-car_65626
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Once upon a time, not long ago, when I had the ole red Sub, I noticed an awful noise emanating from the engine.
The slightest load put on the loud pedal would produce this 'ere noise.
Tis many a year since I'd heard 'pinking', but man, this was REALLY loud, knowlmean.
Dat's when I first decided to out the Sub, which eventually led on to the CRV (now XV!)
Anyway ... The cause of said engine noise was, without any doubt whatsoever = ASDA unleaded.
I changed over to Texaco and ze noise dis-appeared. Make of that watt yew wheel.
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>> Anyway ... The cause of said engine noise was, without any doubt whatsoever = ASDA
>> unleaded.
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>> I changed over to Texaco and ze noise dis-appeared. Make of that watt yew wheel.
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Duff batch? It happens, maybe a dozy tanker driver forgot to dump a bucket of octane in to his load. :-)
www.flotechps.com/additive-and-blending/additive/additive-systems/
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>>Duff batch?
Most likely.
>>I would have thought that was more likely to be the 'knock sensor' faulty
T'was okay after switching to Texaco.
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>>Tis many a year since I'd heard 'pinking', but man, this was REALLY loud, knowlmean.
I would have thought that was more likely to be the 'knock sensor' faulty.
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>> Could you name the fuels that don't contain additives and detergents? Please don't say supermarket
>> fuels, they advertise their cleaning properties, and if millions of cars were damaged someone might
>> notice.
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>> www.regit.cars/car-news/is-supermarket-fuel-bad-for-your-car_65626
Just look around the web yourself and check out all the videos of cleaner engines on cars using rules with HIGH levels of detergents.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand and accept the science of it all, but, and here's the biggie for for me, I've run several cars to huge mileages on a diet of supermarket fuel without any problems whatsoever. I've tried super fuels from time to time, and can't say I have ever felt or noticed any performance or economy benefits from them, so while I repeat, I'm not going to argue with the experts, I'm just not sure how I personally, would have benefitted from using them and can only see that I'd have spent more money on fuel. On my mileage, a lot more.
As previously discussed many times, I've taken several cars up to 200,000 miles and none of them have suffered any (apparent) damage due to using budget fuel so what more could I want? My current car is getting really good fuel economy, regularly recording 50mpg + and any time I've tried putting the single malt stuff in it, it has made no difference at all to fuel efficiency.
All I can say, is if others perceive or can measure a benefit then fair play to them.
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>> Don't get me wrong, I understand and accept the science of it all, but, and
>> here's the biggie for for me, I've run several cars to huge mileages on a
>> diet of supermarket fuel without any problems whatsoever
It probably helps that your cars spend 99% of their running time at full operating temperature.
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The one I use does, but my wife's doesn't and it hasn't had anything other than Morrisons or Sainsburys cooking fuel in the 8 years we've had it. Runs great.
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>> It probably helps that your cars spend 99% of their running time at full operating
>> temperature.
Indeed, higher speeds, full operating temp most of the time. I would say your engines are naturally cleaner and less clogged anyway.
Plus of course the occasional knock from the kerbs* probably jolts the crap free.
*Edit, and a quick slap round the whiskers......
Last edited by: Zero on Sat 1 Dec 18 at 10:26
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Once, just once, in 43 flipping years, I ever so slightly brushed a loose kerbstone, once I tell you, I'm not proud of it but it was once, do you see? Once.
Sheesh...
:-(
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>> Once, just once, in 43 flipping years, I ever so slightly brushed a loose kerbstone,
>> once I tell you, I'm not proud of it but it was once, do you
>> see? Once.
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>> Sheesh...
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>> :-(
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Better than parking under a bus! They tend to be a bit more conspicuous than a kerbstone.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Sat 1 Dec 18 at 14:05
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>> Better than parking under a bus! They tend to be a bit more conspicuous than a kerbstone.
Very fair point ON, very fair indeed !
;-)
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As far as I know none of the armchair experts who claim magical properties for specific fuels have had the cylinder heads off their cars for comparison with cars that have used the recommended fuel can prove longer engine life, or or any other benefits, so it is all subjective.
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>> As far as I know none of the armchair experts who claim magical properties for
>> specific fuels have had the cylinder heads off their cars for comparison with cars that
>> have used the recommended fuel can prove longer engine life, or or any other benefits,
>> so it is all subjective.
Evo magazine did this with three of their long term fleet a few years ago. Not heads off, but borescope examinations of the upper cylinder, valves and piston crowns on a 'before and after' basis over three tankfuls of V-Power. The benefits in terms of cleanliness and dyno outputs were plain to see, and the dyno didn't lie either.
My issue with V-Power is the growing price difference over the 95 RON stuff, which was about 6p a litre when I got the M140i in March 2017, and is now 13p in my local petrol station. Impossible to justify when Tesco Momentum (which gives identical performance) is no more expensive than Shell's standard brew.
Shell V-Power is a great quality fuel, with proven benefits. For me though, the price premium is too hard to swallow of late. Each to their own, of course.
Last edited by: DP on Fri 30 Nov 18 at 15:22
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>> Evo magazine did this with three of their long term fleet a few years ago.
>> Not heads off, but borescope examinations of the upper cylinder, valves and piston crowns on
>> a 'before and after' basis over three tankfuls of V-Power. The benefits in terms of
>> cleanliness and dyno outputs were plain to see, and the dyno didn't lie either.
If you want clean injectors, a working variable vane turbo, and a working EGR valve 50 or 60k down the line, you will drop some high detergent fuel in from time to time.
>> Shell V-Power is a great quality fuel, with proven benefits. For me though, the price
>> premium is too hard to swallow of late.
Specially at 28mpg, I go Shell V Power once every three or 4 fills.
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Just put my first tank of V-Power in in about 6 months. 133.9 is much more like it. Last time I checked, it was 147.9.
I'm typically filling up every 3-4 days, so any difference is noticeable.
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>> Just put my first tank of V-Power in in about 6 months. 133.9 is much
>> more like it. Last time I checked, it was 147.9.
Indeed, it was at that level not long back and cost me near on 100 quid to fill up
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>> Use 1 fill of V-Power for every three regular, and rev it to the red
>> line at least once every trip.
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the Tiguan only gets filled once per month so I console so at that rate of use the cost is bearable. Supposedly they regen less frequently on V-Power as it's cleaner.
I've tried eveything in my older Merc and it seems to get best MPG on Sainbury's City diesel.
Even the odd tankful of V-Power diesel didn't make any difference that I could tell. I've read of people saying the engine quieter, more responsive etc, but I couldn't tell and the MPG was no better than with any other fuel. Same with the Costo super dupa stuff.
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Costco advertise their fuels as being premium quality with additives to enhance performance and cleaning etc. Luckily I'm about an additional 4 miles away from a Costco which sells fuel. I've not experienced any problems with it been using it for about 3 years since they started selling fuel.
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>> Costco advertise their fuels as being premium quality with additives to enhance performance and cleaning
>> etc.
The reason I fill up at Costco when passing is it is cheaper than elsewhere. I have seen no proof other than marketing waffle that it is of a higher specification than any other fuel.
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£33.00 to sign up. Seems rather a lot to a pensioner.
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>> £33.00 to sign up. Seems rather a lot to a pensioner.
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Not this one.Toss in a couple of tyres, a few freezer topups, and other odd and ends it's not a problem.
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Really busy @ Costco pumps - 3/4 deep waiting at each row..
It also attracted a rather older pensioner.
Not a clue, sat there for 2 mins as he tried to scan his membership card by rubbing it along the reader. The car behind me peeped his horn at the delay.
I got out, showed him the process. He then had 2 goes @ his pin number.
He put in 15 litres - hardly worth the effort IMHO.
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>> He put in 15 litres - hardly worth the effort IMHO.
Annoys me about my current car. It's listed as having a 40L tank, but the most I've ever got in was 36L (and that was after driving around 50 miles with the light on and needle on empty).
It usually only manages 32L.
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Perhaps quite a few forum members will never have experienced grinding in valve seats or having to change the engine oil every three thousand miles or so.......
Life is a lot different these days due to high quality fuel and oil products.
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I may be the only female but I have ground many a valve in and there was always something very therapeutic about feeling the difference it was making as I stood there!
I can only relate it to the feeling you get through 'the seat of your pants' when driving a vehicle that isn't running 'right'.
Pat
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An utterly tedious job more so because on crappy engines of the day, it made precious little difference to their highly indifferent performance.
There is little good about the old days.
Last edited by: Zero on Fri 30 Nov 18 at 18:22
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>> There is little good about the old days.
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I reckon being younger was better.
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>>An utterly tedious job more so because on crappy engines of the day, it made precious little difference to their highly indifferent performance.
Indeed, but I remember the blind optimism that it was going to make a difference *this* time.
Anyway, for me, it was the only way to keep whichever pile of poo I'd managed to scrounge on the road. Much more about it actually working and much less about it doing anything impressive.
But I wonder, do I now have problem solving skills because I spent so much of my time peering at engines and trying to work out what was wrong with them?
Because one thing that is absolutely missing these days, especially from graduates, is any level of problem solving. They know a lot about a lot, at least in their field. Probably more than I knew in mine. But if they come across something they don't know, they simply stop.
Whereas survival car repair and maintenance was all about working out to do when you didn't know what to do.
I am fortunate that my children like to work on things with their hands. I like that they cannot be trusted with a screwdriver and a spanner near anything mechanical.
So, I disagree, there were benefits to the old days, that just is probably not enough to make them good days. Lots of fond memories though.
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>> An utterly tedious job more so because on crappy engines of the day, it made precious little difference to their highly indifferent performance.
There is little good about the old days. >>
Hindsight is, of course, a wonderful thing. How would we have possibly known any different at the time?
Bit like having a nine inch black and white television in contrast to today's huge flat panel offerings...:-) People would have laughed at you not all that long ago if you'd claimed that one day you would watch a 50in or larger TV in your living room.
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>> having to change the engine oil every three thousand miles or so.......
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>> Life is a lot different these days due to high quality fuel and oil products.
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I bet there's one or two that do if other motoring forums are anything to go by. Some I'm on think doing more than 5000 miles on the same oil is madness and will surely mean an exploding engine soon after.
Waste of time and money if you ask me.
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>> Perhaps quite a few forum members will never have experienced grinding in valve seats
I was asked to look at a recently re-built pre WW1 engine that wouldn't run. Spent all day trying to check the (magneto) timing and valve timing before putting a compression test on it - there wasn't any!
The new valves, guides and re-cut valve seats were presumed to be perfect - they weren't.
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>> >> Perhaps quite a few forum members will never have experienced grinding in valve seats.
Check out the Grindr website for othe enthusiasts.
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>> I am a Costco member, none of the ones near me have fuel.
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>> My local Asda does tho, consistently the cheapest around here tho and it appears a
>> mere 1p above the Costco price
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In fact at 116.7p it is now less than 1p dearer than costco.
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Just paid 127 for diesel at Kinmel Bay Asda. Not a place to venture lightly into...
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Not sure that Costco saves you much on anything really. Most of their stuff can be bought as cheaply elsewhere. If you are the sort of person who buys toilet rolls by the gross or baked beans by the case I suppose you might save a pound or two but personally I can't be bothered.
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Costco is ok.
If you go there shopping for something in particular I think you are likely to be disappointed. If you go there to see if they have any deals that appeal to you, then you can do quite well.
We've had some great deals on kids garden toys and similar over the years. Ditto when preparing for children's birthday parties and the like.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Mon 3 Dec 18 at 18:07
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our Costco staples are:
500 ml bottles of water
500 ml bottles of sparkling water (for my dad)
tins chopped tomatoes
toilet rolls
kitchen rolls
pizza
hot dogs
usually come out with an item or two of clothing, and any other items that are on offer. Rain X is usually a good price.
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>> our Costco staples are:
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>> 500 ml bottles of water
>> 500 ml bottles of sparkling water (for my dad)
>> tins chopped tomatoes
>> toilet rolls
>> kitchen rolls
>> pizza
>> hot dogs
Costco IS cheaper, BUT you have to buy stuff in bulk. A tray of 500ml or 250ml own brand water bottles is cheapest bottled water in the country. 50 & 70 cl bottles of Pelligrino is cheapest in the country by some margin. Dulce Gusto coffee pods are a £1 box cheaper than anywhere else in the country (limited choice tho) Fresh Meat is cheap, Veg is cheap but crap quality.
Generally stuff IS cheaper but you need to buy it in bulk, bulk that makes it generally impractical for a small family.
My Costco staples are
trays of 24 250 ml bottles of water, 500 ml bottles of pelligrino
Supermarket display cartons of Dulce Gusto Americano (3boxes to a carton)
24 tray of coke original in glass bottles (ludicrously cheap)
a Box or Two of whatever beer is on special (it varies)
Large sack of Autarky dog food (50% cheaper than elsewhere)
Box of Pigs ears
box of Pedigree Dentisticks (50% cheaper than elsewhere)
Jars of Pasata
Multi pack of ready to bake Ciabatta
Screenwash
A hot roasted chicken (dont know why but they are the best tasting around)
And a hot dog (again the best around) for lunch while the wife is paying for all the stuff.
And anything they have on special, branded clothes for example, that takes your fancy.
We are having a largish family buffet at home later this month. They do great party packs of food, that you can pre order. The Costco curry is pretty good, but it serves 8.
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An interesting insight into your lifestyle.
I wouldn’t have the need fo any of that except the odd jar of Passata and some screenwash. Shopping lists are often fascinatiing. I must admit that sometimes I read discarded ones I find in the supermarket trolly.
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>>sometimes I read
>> discarded ones I find in the supermarket trolly.
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An interesting insight into your psyche
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Yes indeed. Shopping lists give an interesting insight into the needs and priorities of our fellow man. Surprised no one has researched them. Worthy of a PhD I would think
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>> My Costco staples are
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>> trays of 24 250 ml bottles of water, 500 ml bottles of pelligrino
>> Supermarket display cartons of Dulce Gusto Americano (3boxes to a carton)
>> 24 tray of coke original in glass bottles (ludicrously cheap)
>> a Box or Two of whatever beer is on special (it varies)
>> Large sack of Autarky dog food (50% cheaper than elsewhere)
>> Box of Pigs ears
>> box of Pedigree Dentisticks (50% cheaper than elsewhere)
>> Jars of Pasata
>> Multi pack of ready to bake Ciabatta
>> Screenwash
>> A hot roasted chicken (dont know why but they are the best tasting around)
I thought for a minute this was one of zero's recipes. but then I thought it must be one of Pat's.
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>> I thought for a minute this was one of zero's recipes. but then I thought
>> it must be one of Pat's.
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LOL
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We had a look at costco earlier this year. When I looked at the prices it didn't seem particularly good on price on household/normal grocery items mainly more expensive.
If you are regularly in the market for high end goods like £3000 tvs £1000 bbqs etc then they did look to have some good deals.
However it would have worked out more expensive for the stuff we buy so we gave it a miss.
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Missed the edit, we similarly had a look at JTF warehouse. Practically everything i looked at was 10-20% more expensive than the supermarkets. Didn't really get it.
Plenty of people coming out with trolleys full so what do I know?
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>>...we similarly had a look at JTF warehouse. >>
I occasionally visit the Preston JTF outlet and, as you say, most of the prices are little different to those of the high street retailers and supermarkets.
But there are bargains - you just have to know your prices elsewhere and weed them out.
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But there are bargains - you just have to know your prices elsewhere and weed
>> them out.
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I went mainly to have a look at the booze. But they don't seem to do any deals on alcohol, I do have a look on their website every now and again.
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>>But they don't seem to do any deals on alcohol>>
Mostly wine and pretty much the same as the supermarkets, often the best place for bargains!
Sainsburys have have leading brand spirits on offer at £15 for a litre, while I've bought my regular supply of Vinalba Argentinian Malbec (for Christmas) at three bottles for £18 from Morrisons.
Normally get it at Majestic Wines, but saved a third even on its discounted price. Morrisons offer finished on Sunday.
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Cheers, should have said it's beer, lager, odd bit of gin. I don't really drink wine.
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Costco fuel - DP
