Are Mcgard still rated the best ?
In spite of me trying to ensure problems with wheel nuts do not occur - using a torque wrench etc my indie managed to snap one. I now have half a locking wheelnut with the remover key firmly attached.
It is my daughters car and am not aware of anyone touching it ,out of my sight, except a main dealer.
When the offending lump is removed I want to replace the locking wheel nuts with another brand and I am favouring Mcgard.
I know there are "trade" tools for removing nuts but Mcgards would, I guess deter the common scroats who in any case probably do not have a big market for Yaris wheels :-)
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>> Are Mcgard still rated the best ?
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Some manufacturers use them as OE so they must be reasonably good.
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Yes, I would go for McGard. The ones Mercedes fit look very similar, and they have never given me any trouble (unlike the cheaper 'pin' type fitted to some cars which always give way and must be the most stupid design for a wheel nut!)
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Bought McGard for the Xtrail - they were roughly £35-£40 in most places.
Nissan dealer was £27 i Nissan part No but says Mcgard on the nuts - seems main dealers can be cheaper some some bits and pieces.
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on some front wheel drive cars the nuts or bolts just seem to tighten up between services of their own accord
i put it down to the law of some makes
as regards locking wheel nuts i would just replace with the cheapest available for a yaris because they might be liked but have zilch street cred in my book
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...on some front wheel drive cars the nuts or bolts just seem to tighten up between services of their own accord...
The wheel nut will tend to turn in the direction of the rotation of the wheel.
So the offside wheel nuts will tend to tighten, and the nearside wheel nuts will tend to undo.
Which is why some commercials have a left hand thread on the nearside.
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i know that iffi :-)
im talking specific cars,generally vauxhalls have a propensity to tighten themselves up to warp tightness
i once had a transit where someone had put all the studs in the wrong sides so i had to do a double think every time it came to take a wheel off,trust me it reallly made me head scratch before i got the cracking bar out
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...I know that iffi :-)...
Yes, I thought you would.
When I didn't, I used an airgun to 'undo' a nearside wheel nut anti-clockwise on a Transit.
The nut got hotter and hotter, and eventually just spun.
The nut thread stripped in one piece and I was able, when it had cooled down, to wind it off the stud, leaving me with a little coil spring and leaving the thread on the stud intact.
The fastening was clearly designed to fail in that way - nut first - when attacked by a goon like me.
Clever, I thought.
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think you were lucky
once had to burn the nuts off a twin legger as they had been ruined by the previous keeper who had tried to undo them without the proper tackle,now they can go tight if maintainance isnt regime
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...think you were lucky...
Possibly, although I still got an expletive laden ticking off from the gaffer, even though my hamfistedness only cost us a wheel nut.
I have no technical expertise in this area - obviously - but I wonder if left hand threads are really necessary?
Shouldn't a properly tightened wheel nut stay on whichever way the wheel is turning?
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if you can solve that conumdrum you will be a rich man
the art is check your wheelnuts before every journey
i had mine all dabbed up but they need redabbing now
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>> I would go for McGard. The ones Mercedes fit look very similar, and they have never given me any trouble (unlike the cheaper 'pin' type fitted to some cars which always give way and must be the most stupid design for a wheel nut!)
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It is a pin type that has failed
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>>...as regards locking wheel nuts i would just replace with the cheapest available for a yaris because they might be liked but have zilch street cred in my book
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I agree with the street cred but four good quality tyres have just been fitted, my daughter is taking a big drop in salary for three years and for that period will be living in a slightly less desireable area. Although she is highly skilled, the car is just "white goods" so dad, for peace of mind, keeps an eye on things but she will be 60 miles away. I have enough of a task getting any mechanical jobs done on it . Kids!!!
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>>The wheel nut will tend to turn in the direction of the rotation of the wheel.
So the offside wheel nuts will tend to tighten, and the nearside wheel nuts will tend to undo.
Which is why some commercials have a left hand thread on the nearside.
One car of mine (have I mentioned I've got a KIA Pride?) has a LH thread on the RH rear hub nut. I've experienced LH thread on the LH hub nut on things like Maxis, but never on the right. It cost me new wheel bearing when I tried to check the brake linings.
Can anyone explain this philosophy, apparently it's the same for all of these models, LHD and RHD?
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yes they copied a western idea but it got lost in translation
you dig bruv?
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McGard definitely do what they are supposed to.
Volvo fit them as standard. Problem is they torque them to 140Nm and the inner is quite soft on the master key.
I had to have one of my wheels drilled off after the master key would no longer work when the car was only four years old. No men wielding airguns had been near the wheels.
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I have found some McGard online from a regular site for £27.95 incl p & p vs £36.99 in a well known chain, so that will do fine.
I do not want to pay out for posible further repairs on cheaper makes especially as I will no longer be able to make regular checks on said Yaris.
Thanks for all your comments.
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A final update.
After a hectic few weeks and trusting to luck that the wheel did not need removing the Yaris is in my hands this week, so my indie set to the task of restoring things.
There was not enough of the locking device left for the usual removal tool to bite into so it was then drill out the stud with regular attempts to undo the the stub with a cold chisel and a hammer.
Eventually with almost no stud left, the cold chisel moved it.
From there on it was remove what was left of the stud and press a new stud in.
I can now relax a little knowing that all the important things are sorted.
It is now fully serviced with new discs /pads, new quality tyres all round so the M40 / M25 / M3 sprint should be not be a problem ( except traffic)
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The final part to the saga. ( to date)
The McGard nuts I ordered were not the correct ones.
It appears that McGard do not make any to fit this Yaris.
The replacements sent were EVO locks.
Approved by Ford, Landrover, Proton, Rover, Saab, Toyota and Vauxhall
These are identical to the original 3 pin types fitted ( A Toyota box with 4 spare wheel nuts came with the car). There is no way I am fitting the same nuts again so it is a refund.
Full marks to the company for trying.
So the Yaris will go locking nut free.
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"So the Yaris will go locking nut free."
Just give us the address and we'll come round as my son's yaris needs some new tyres :-)
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