For anyone with Eurosport, Le Mans 24H race is underway, goes on through the night and finishes tomorrow afternoon with some of the most exciting racing you'll see.
60 cars on the grid this year, with different classes (with vastly differing performance) racing in the same race. TV coverage is fantastic, with plenty of in-car etc.
Last edited by: smokie on Sat 16 Jun 18 at 17:43
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Plus some coverage on Eurosport
Please merge my other posting. Thanks
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Quest - Freeview 37 online guide shows that there is live coverage from 1000 til 1430
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It's looking like a potential clean sweep for the Toyota hybrids which are a few laps ahead of the rest of the field, but with over 12 hours to go there's plenty of time for something to affect that. Despite that it remains an exciting race, with honours to be decided in the other classes. It's not all about the overall winners at Le Mans.
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I thought some F1 races could be boring.... Le Mans 24h and excitement...? Not so sure.
I've not seen any overtaking when I've watched a bit now and a little earlier. Does it get more exciting or is it just really the endurance race?
Last edited by: rtj70 on Sun 17 Jun 18 at 01:01
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WEC had become my motor sport of choice since F1 became boring... after Porsche and Audi dropped out leaving only one real LMP1 team my focus has gone to the GT cars.. love the Porsche RSR's.
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You can't have watched for very long. There is overtaking all the time, albeit of slower cars by much faster cars. With 60 cars on the circuit (well, there were at the start!) a lap of just under 8.5 miles and over half a minute between the fastest and slowest lap times (at the moment) there is bound to be cars passing each other regularly.
There have even been some reasonably spectacular "offs" which normally add to the appeal, so long as they aren't life changing for anyone. There's also some tactics in play, and that
I remember taking a few F1 fans to LM some years back and mostly their short attention span wasn't suited to endurance either, but a couple now prefer endurance over sprints.
I get that from here that the quality of motor racing is determined by the amount of overtaking, and I understand that it makes more of a spectacle of a race, but there's more to racing than that. The predictability seems to be an issue for some but there aren't many sports in which the likely outcome can't be foreseen in advance.
F1 have made some efforts to falsely level the playing field and come into criticism for it, including from this who say it is boring. What do people want?
But I understand that motor racing isn't for everyone and what surprises me is that people still tune in and watch a race so they can have a grumble about how boring it is!! :-)
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So overtaking in a similar way that if you ran Formula 3 and F1 on the same track at the same time, the F1 cars would lap the Formula 3 cars? :-)
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That's it. Makes for some exciting viewing!!
I suppose my view is tainted by having been there on a number of occasions, where you don't have much real idea what is going on but the experience is awesome.
In F1 millions are invested in the best drivers and resources, and expensive R&D and top notch engineers all turning out cars to a strict specification which end up performing at about the same mark. No real surprise there then.
Maybe motor sport just isn't good TV for the masses any more. Maybe they should just stick to Love Island or Bargain Hunt or whatever floats their boat :-)
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I totally forgotten it was on, I used to watch the 24hr on TV all the time. Not got eurosport, so I no good for me.
>>Maybe motor sport just isn't good TV for the masses any more.
That's a good point. I used to watch loads of motor sport, F1, le mans, British touring car, WRC, hill races, trucks and the one where gas turbine powered sleds pulled a plough as far as they could before it dug in.
But for some reason or another, I'm not sure why I watch pretty much no motorsport at all now. I couldn't even tell you who the F1 champion was last season.
I wonder how much tv viewing has held up over the last 10-20 years for motorsport of all types?
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>> >>Maybe motor sport just isn't good TV for the masses any more.
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>> That's a good point. I used to watch loads of motor sport, F1, le mans,
>> British touring car, WRC, hill races, trucks and the one where gas turbine powered sleds
>> pulled a plough as far as they could before it dug in.
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>> But for some reason or another, I'm not sure why I watch pretty much no
>> motorsport at all now.
Likewise.
Have I moved on, or has motorsport changed?
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Touring Cars are still the only motorsport I now watch and have lost a bit of interest in the British one since Shedden left.
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Final results
www.motorsport.com/wec/results/
Well done Toyota (and Alonso), tough luck Jensen. Maybe better luck in 2019...
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I enjoyed it. A much better watch than F1 which I no longer bother with.
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I quite liked F1 in the era before they had such reliable cars.... so someone could be leading and all too often the car would fail. They even sometimes failed on the starting grid due to overheating. I know they still do not have radiators in them but they don't overheat like they used to. And old tactic was to delay forming the grid so those at the front sat for too long with their engine cooking :-)
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BTCC lost it for me when I couldn't recognise the different cars from each other, it all became about the drivers and unless you knew what make they drove for the cars became indistinguishable from each other once all covered in stickers (apart from maybe the BMWs).
In the old BTCC it was a manufactures battle between Ford, Vauxhall and BMW.
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I don’t think I’ve intentionally watched any BTCC since the Volvo estates took part, and I completely lost interest in the WRC years ago. I suppose I’m very fortunate in seeing the WRC in the days of Group 4 ( Vatanens Escort, the late Henri Toivonen in the Sunbeam Lotus and Opel Manta 400, Walter Rohl in a 911 on the Manx Rally battling with Tony Pond who drove both a TR8 and a Rover Vitesse.
Them were t’days
Holidays well spent following the European rally events
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I wasn't able to watch it unfortunately. But without Porsche and Audi it must feel a hollow victory for Toyota, and for Alonso for that matter.
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Good class win in GT Pro for the 'Pink Pig' 911 RSR.
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Respectable third and fourth place for Rebellion. My cousin is part of the pit crew.
Last edited by: Harleyman on Mon 18 Jun 18 at 10:49
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My thoughts exactly Manatee, a somewhat hollow victory. The media keeps reporitng of this "triple crown" of Monaco GP, LeMans and the Indy 500, and how only Graham Hill has done it previously.
However having no effective opposition surely cheapens this somwhat. I bet Graham Hills win wasnt in an unchallenged car!
Last edited by: PR on Mon 18 Jun 18 at 11:03
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Whilst to some extent I agree, it is so easy to knock achievement and we all do it so well. Toyota manufactured a hybrid car (well, two actually) which managed to run flat out without a blip for 24 hours. These things don't just happen. Other teams have had their share of hollow victories over the years and decided that this year wasn't for them.
Alonso's achievement is pretty damn impressive whichever way you decide to look at it. He has my congrats!
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