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New Thu 15 Feb 18 13:06

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - R.P.

www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-dramatic-moment-police-car-14292106

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 13:17

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Zero

Day 3 at the police driver school training:

"And this, boys and girls, is called Understeer".

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 13:22

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - R.P.

Hahaha...there was some comments on social media about this being a 3 year old Astra with moonshot mileage and its demise won't be missed.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 13:50

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Manatee

>>
>> "And this, boys and girls, is called Understeer".

Not much sign of any steering at all. Using radio/eating doughnut?

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 14:38

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - R.P.

Weird one. Slow speed - understeers, wonder whether an underinflated tyre played a part ?

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 17:30

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Zero

>> >>
>> >> "And this, boys and girls, is called Understeer".
>>
>> Not much sign of any steering at all. Using radio/eating doughnut?

Well the front wheels were pointing right, the car wasn't. Entry speed too high, late braking continuing into turn I'm guessing.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 17:36

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Manatee

It appeared so in the still of the car at rest, didn't seem to be much lock on in the video.

It didn't look that fast, more like steering error to me but I can't be sure.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 17:58

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Zero

>> It appeared so in the still of the car at rest, didn't seem to be
>> much lock on in the video.

If you have plough on understeer, no point winding on more lock. Given time and space and quick thinking you can wind it out, boot it up and re-wind on some scrabbling grabby FWD grip and steer.

Looks to me like classic brakes on, locked arms, oh sugar what do I do now - brace - here comes the crunch, plough on understeer. PCSO driving probably.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 18:22

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Manatee

What we are both possibly ignoring here is that the car will have ESP or whatever. I think if she had got the lock on and lifted off (a natural reaction for most people) it would have done a better job of getting her round.

I just don't think she turned the steering wheel, and it went where it was pointed until it was too late. But that's guesswork, you might well be right.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 21:21

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Bromptonaut

>> I just don't think she turned the steering wheel, and it went where it was
>> pointed until it was too late.

I think that's about right. The other cars in the convoy managed OK.

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 21:40

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Zero

How can you not turn a steering wheel to go round a corner?

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New Thu 15 Feb 18 21:53

Vauxhall - Cakes ? More like opening a Bakery ! - Manatee

>> How can you not turn a steering wheel to go round a corner?

Operating radio with one hand, ran out of twiddle with the other?

Unfettered speculation of course.

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