Motoring Discussion > Cars not available for sale in UK	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: movilogo	Replies: 69

New Thu 3 Aug 17 12:52   Cars not available for sale in UK - movilogo

Only recently I came to know about Honda Element. It looked a great vehicle. I might have bought it if it were available in UK. What other good cars not available to buy in UK? Of course there are some cars for local markets (like China, Russia, USA) and I'm not talking about them but those ones which are sold internationally but for some reason not available in UK. Also, I wonder how the manufacturers decide that a specific model would not be a good seller in UK, unless they introduce it and then no one buys? People can only buy what is offered, so unless something is offered then how do people will buy it? Of course, some models in like American muscle cars with 4L petrol engines won't be a good seller in UK due to high petrol price (though some muscle cars do sell in UK). Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 13:03   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

www.renault.fr/vehicules/vehicules-particuliers/talisman.html www.renault.fr/vehicules/vehicules-particuliers/talisman-estate/design.html and for Humph www.renault.fr/vehicules/vehicules-particuliers/espace.html Fortunately we don't get this horror show www.renault.co.in/vehicles/personal-cars/renault-lodgy.html Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 13:09   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

I knew that the Laguna was dropped here and that the Talisman is not available though I would have assumed that you can still buy an Espace ... Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 13:30   Cars not available for sale in UK - henry k

With the UK obsessionT with hatchbacks, over the years some booted versions of familiar cars have not been sold in the UK. The Austin Victoria. More recently the Toyota Belta ( Yaris ) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 13:54   Cars not available for sale in UK - Duncan

I used to have a Toyota Camry. 3.0 litre petrol engine, auto box. Lovely car, but it did like a drink! They are still produced, but not for sale here. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 16:31   Cars not available for sale in UK - Clk Sec

>> With the UK obsessionT with hatchbacks, over the years some booted versions of familiar >>cars have not been sold in the UK. And some hatchbacks are no longer available in the UK; the Mazda6, for instance. Last edited by: Clk Sec on Thu 3 Aug 17 at 16:32 Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 19:38   Cars not available for sale in UK - rtj70

>> And some hatchbacks are no longer available in the UK; the Mazda6, for instance. The current Mazda6 is only available as a saloon and estate. I am pretty sure there is no Mazda6 hatchback/fastback anywhere. They probably view it as a more premium model if there is no hatchback variant. This is not the same as there being a model variant elsewhere we cannot get in the UK. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 19:56   Cars not available for sale in UK - The Melting Snowman

>> I knew that the Laguna was dropped here and that the Talisman is not available >> though I would have assumed that you can still buy an Espace ... >> It was pulled from the UK market in 2012 along with a number of other models. The current Espace is only available as LHD so not available in the UK. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 20:56   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bobby

Over in Bulgaria just now and there's a good number of Renaults that aren't available in UK. Justifiably so by the looks of them. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 21:51   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bobby

Plenty of Renault Lodgy taxis here in Bulgaria. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 13:58   Cars not available for sale in UK - CGNorwich

They stopped selling the Element in th US six years ago because of rapidly declining sales. It was a thirst beast designed for the US market. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 15:32   Cars not available for sale in UK - DP

BMW have historically not offered certain X-Drive models in the UK Examples include the quad-turbo M550d X-Drive and the M140/240i X-Drive. The former is due to packaging reasons, but the latter is purely a marketing decision, I believe. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 15:56   Cars not available for sale in UK - Ted

We never got the Renault 3 or 7, which I rather liked. Nor did we get the Citroen Axel. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 16:08   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

Though we got the 10, best of both ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 16:13   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bromptonaut

The Dacia Dokker looks a reasonable player in the Berlingo/Partner and Fiat Doblo van derived car market. Quite like look of the Lodgy in spite of Zero's disparagement. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 16:16   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> Quite like look of the Lodgy in spite of Zero's disparagement. I could cut a few windows in my concrete coal bunker and it would look better than the Lodgy, its hideous Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 16:17   Cars not available for sale in UK - CGNorwich

We shouldn't really complain. We get more carmakers selling in the UK and more types of car than virtually anywhere else. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 21:29   Cars not available for sale in UK - The Melting Snowman

>> >> We never got the Renault 3 or 7, which I rather liked. Nor did we >> get the Citroen Axel. >> There is a God. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 17:26   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bill Payer

>> They stopped selling the Element in th US six years ago because of rapidly declining >> sales. It was a thirst beast designed for the US market. >> From Honda USA I reckon the Odyssey people carrier and Pilot large SUV would have sold in the UK to some extent, although a snag is that in the US Hondas are seen as cheap cars whereas Honda UK seem to try and pitch them almost at premium prices. I had a 2017 model GMC Acadia 7 seater SUV late last year when in the US and thought that was a car I could live with and would be useful for carting grandchildren around. It's unusual in that for 2017 GMC made it smaller and now class it as "mid-size". Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 19:08   Cars not available for sale in UK - jc2

Apparently estate cars sell well in the UK and in Germany but not much demand elsewhere. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 19:22   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

...and the Americans love pick up trucks. Think I read somewhere that a huge percentage of new vehicles sold there are pick ups. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 19:59   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bromptonaut

>> ...and the Americans love pick up trucks. Think I read somewhere that a huge percentage >> of new vehicles sold there are pick ups. Yeah, lots of them in Texas and we were, for most part, in urban/interurban places. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 20:44   Cars not available for sale in UK - CGNorwich

You can't beat a Dodge RAM with a 5.7 Litre engine for picking up the groceries at Walmart. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 21:09   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

I think it's the Ford F150 that is the best seller. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 3 Aug 17 23:40   Cars not available for sale in UK - rtj70

I know someone who had a 5.2 litre Jeep Grand Cherokee. It did do about 0-60 in 8 seconds, But had only 220bph! From a 5.2 litre V8! Sounded good. Oh and the spare wheel had to sit on the boot eating space. Great design. I can see why Americans went for the bigger SUVs. Poor designs and no space inside. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 01:01   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

Had one as a hire car in Massachusetts 05, I remember it being the latest thing, 06 model. 4.7 V8 IIRC. The auto box was frustrating I remember, the manual override enabled a low gear to he held though not a high gear so you couldn't use the torque to accelerate, rather it would always drop a gear or two and rev more than necessary. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 01:37   Cars not available for sale in UK - rtj70

The Jeep I refer to was owned in 1998. For a 5.2l V8 it was poor for performance and worse for luggage and passenger space. He's moved on so their current car is a Tesla Model S.... the cheapskate is probably mostly using Tesla Superchargers for free. He has a double garage so charging at home is not an issue. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 13:55   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bill Payer

>> I know someone who had a 5.2 litre Jeep Grand Cherokee. It did do about >> 0-60 in 8 seconds, But had only 220bph! From a 5.2 litre V8! I'd imagine the engine for a Jeep etc would be more focussed on torque than bhp. You're going back quite a while though. IIRC 3 litre Capris were only about 130bhp. I've had a few Jeep GC rentals in the US and quite like them, but they do vary a lot. Tried to get one here a year ago when one of the Jeep dealers had some dodgy pricing/dealing going on for 2yr leases but it fell through. That would have been a 3 litre (Fiat, I think) V6 diesel. Last edited by: Bill Payer on Fri 4 Aug 17 at 13:58 Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 14:12   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

I sometimes used to get borrow my boss's 3 litre Capri if he wanted something or someone fetching or whatever. It seemed like a supercar at the time by comparison to anything I normally drove. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 14:21   Cars not available for sale in UK - Pat

Been there Humph. In a previous career I had a lowly Escort Estate company car (when they were a perk). My are manager had a beautiful silver Granada and I used to get to drive it when mine was in for service:) Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:05   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

>> I sometimes used to get borrow my boss's 3 litre Capri if he wanted something >> or someone fetching or whatever. >> In my first job at 18 I regularly, almost daily, used my bosses Capri 2.0S ... Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:10   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

Mr Bodie or Mr Doyle? ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:16   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

>> Mr Bodie or Mr Doyle? ;-) >> I was Bodie, he was Doyle ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:13   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

At 19 I had my own. Tho it was XLR in those days. At 23 I had a RS3100. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:17   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

Wasn't it GT XLR? Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:33   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

No just a straight XLR I think. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:04   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

>> >> IIRC 3 litre Capris were only about >> 130bhp. >> IIRC 138 bhp, though quite torquey. A 2.8i was 160bhp. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:09   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

A friend who lived in rural Aberdeenshire had a 2.8i Capri. He discovered late one night at fairly high speed that it didn't like black ice on corners...got up close and personal with a hedge and the field behind it as a result. Backwards. And upside down. Not pretty apparently. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:15   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> A friend who lived in rural Aberdeenshire had a 2.8i Capri. He discovered late one >> night at fairly high speed that it didn't like black ice on corners...got up close >> and personal with a hedge and the field behind it as a result. Backwards. And >> upside down. Not pretty apparently. None of them liked corners. I managed to wedge one sideways under a bridge once. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:17   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

Bridges, busses, is there anything large and entirely visible you haven't hit? ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:24   Cars not available for sale in UK - tyrednemotional

....TBF, buses move, but bridges.......... Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:25   Cars not available for sale in UK - commerdriver

If you were sensible they loved corners, as long as you kept the speed sensible you could choose to go round normally or, with a little bit of right foot you could hang the tail out very easily. They didn't like snow and hills though, especially quicker ones with wider tyres. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:38   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> If you were sensible they loved corners, as long as you kept the speed sensible >> you could choose to go round normally or, with a little bit of right foot >> you could hang the tail out very easily. You could pursue all sorts of long lurid crazy angled bum out oversteer, hit a bump while the tail was sailing and it would be Jacknife time. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:40   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

I didn't hit the bridge, not a scratch, 6 inches spare at each end. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 15:43   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

That wasn't wedged then, that was parked. ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 17:09   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

Well it wasn't exactly a three point turn to get it out again. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 19:07   Cars not available for sale in UK - Videodoctor

I had a Chevrolet Impala 2017 when i went to the US last year. www.chevrolet.ca/impala-full-size-car.html It had a 3.5 litre V6 engine developing 305 BHP.It had every safety aid going with blind spot monitoring ,EBA etc and the interior was gorgeous. If they sold them over here i would have one in a heat beat. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 4 Aug 17 19:42   Cars not available for sale in UK - Hard Cheese

>> It had a 3.5 litre V6 engine developing 305 BHP.It had every safety aid going >> with blind spot monitoring ,EBA etc and the interior was gorgeous. If they sold them >> over here i would have one in a heat beat. >> I had an Impala as a hire car in Montreal a few years ago, it would have been a 2013 model I guess, the chassis was awful. The 3.0 V6 Ford Fusions (Mondeo) that I had in San Fransisco and separately Portland, Oregon earlier the same year were much better cars. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 5 Aug 17 10:38   Cars not available for sale in UK - tyrednemotional

...haven't seen (or at least noticed) a Capri for quite a while. Just been down the village, and a well-preserved 'H' reg ('69 if an original plate) drove past me. Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 7 Aug 17 12:42   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

Guy near me is seen weekly driving around in his Tickford Capri. When it first appeared I drooled, now when I see it I vomit. Last edited by: Zero on Mon 7 Aug 17 at 12:42 Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 7 Aug 17 10:44   Cars not available for sale in UK - Boxsterboy

>> From Honda USA I reckon the Odyssey people carrier and Pilot large SUV would have >> sold in the UK to some extent. >> >> I had a 2017 model GMC Acadia 7 seater SUV late last year when in >> the US and thought that was a car I could live with and would be >> useful for carting grandchildren around. >> We have hired Acadias over there before and I like them too. We were staying with friends last month who have a Honda Odyssey, and agree that this and the Pilot could sell in Europe. The other model that I think would sell over here is the VW Atlas - another 7-seat SUV - that looks like an up-scaled Skoda Kodiak. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 11:19   Cars not available for sale in UK - movilogo

The new Kia Sedona is not available in UK. It is quite luxurious inside and rear seats can be folded to make a space for a bed. Can serve as a daily driver and weekend camper. On a similar note, are there any cars (MPVs/vans) in UK which offers completely fold flat 2nd and 3rd row seats (not having to take seats out of the car)? Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 12:58   Cars not available for sale in UK - Boxsterboy

Loads do. Galaxy, S-Max, Grand Picasso, no name just three. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 15:50   Cars not available for sale in UK - movilogo

Mercedes V-class Marco Polo Horizon model introduced earlier this years offers 7 seats and 2-beds for 5 people; packaged nicely in a van which fits in standard parking bay. This variant was introduced recently and not sure if RHD UK version is available. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 17:01   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

Cant think if any parking bays round here that take a V class comfortably. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 17:04   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

Even my E class is pretty big for some spaces. But, being a driving God, it's never really much of a problem of course. ;-))) Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 9 Aug 17 at 17:05 Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 17:17   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> But, being a driving God, it's never really much of a problem of course. As long as the spaces dont have kerbs.. Just sayin Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 17:42   Cars not available for sale in UK - Duncan

>> As long as the spaces dont have kerbs.. >> >> Just sayin >> Or busses.. Just sayin Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 20:23   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

The minor ( very minor, in the view of anyone even slightly sentient, more or less insignificant in fact ) kerb incident, was nothing at all to do with parking. It occurred, or should I say, pretty much didn't, as in hardly at all, during a swinging about manoeuvre. Swinging about is a wholly different and far more advanced skill set. Once, just the once mind you, in 42 years of otherwise blemishless driving, there was just the slightest contact with what clearly was an already loosened and therefore protruding kerbstone. Not to be entirely excused I'll grant, but to compare it to sloppy parking, well, I ask you... Anyway, it was during and pertaining entirely to an attempt to get to a chippy before it closed. ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 20:46   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> Not to be entirely excused I'll grant, but to compare it to sloppy parking, well, >> I ask you... hardly god like. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 20:50   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

Even gods have off days. Look at that flood thing for example. And, when the big guy did the creation thing, he got Scotland right and France was a good effort, but see what a mess he made of what he put in between... ;-) Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 9 Aug 17 at 20:53 Reply to this message | Report message       2

New Wed 9 Aug 17 20:55   Cars not available for sale in UK - Zero

>> big guy did the creation thing, he got Scotland right and France was a good >> effort, but see what a mess he made of what he put in between... Apparently France requested a large buffer zone Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 20:56   Cars not available for sale in UK - Runfer D'Hills

Aye well, they certainly got a load of large buffers. ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 21:31   Cars not available for sale in UK - tyrednemotional

>> >> Apparently France requested a large buffer zone >> It was to protect the decent claret from the Buckfast drinkers...... Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Wed 9 Aug 17 21:27   Cars not available for sale in UK - tyrednemotional

>> Anyway, it was during and pertaining entirely to an attempt to get to a chippy >> before it closed. >> Chips Away for you then, on both counts......... Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 22:19   Cars not available for sale in UK - Duncan

>> Once, just the once mind you, in 42 years of otherwise blemishless driving, there was >> just the slightest contact with what clearly was an already loosened and therefore protruding >> kerbstone. You mean this kerbstone leapt out at you? Well, why didn't you just say that? We understand. No, honest, we do. And I tell you something else. Nobody on here will ever mention it ever again. (snigger). Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 22:43   Cars not available for sale in UK - Ted

Anyway, enough already. Friends of mine with an hotel by the Meuse had Berlingo like thingy called a Jumpy. Not sure if it was a Pug or Citroen. Can't say I've seen one here....although I haven't really looked. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 23:10   Cars not available for sale in UK - Bromptonaut

>> Friends of mine with an hotel by the Meuse had Berlingo like thingy called a >> Jumpy. Not sure if it was a Pug or Citroen. Jumpy is/was a Citroen van/MPV sold here as a Dispatch. Peugeot version was called Expert (Tepee as an MPV). Fiat Scudo (Combinato as a pax vehicle) was similar but with Fiat Engines. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 9 Aug 17 23:33   Cars not available for sale in UK - smokie

As per another thread, I recently bought a '15 Vauxhall Ampera, which is no longer sold here. The US equivalent is the Chevy Volt which is still sold. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 12 Aug 17 15:41   Cars not available for sale in UK - Harleyman

It has been said by more than one respected journalist that Renault scored an own goal by not importing the original Twingo, although I concede that a RHD version might not have been economically viable.Seen plenty in France (as you would of course) and it does look a decent little car. Reply to this message | Report message