My expensive new motor arrives sometime September, and I got to thinking about additional security. Mileage is circa10k pa, it will be kept in a detached garage, and won't be left in less than salubrious locations i.e. outside cheap curry houses in Bradford & Keighley.
I shall ask the supplying dealer within the next few weeks for any customer feedback, but wondered if there were any thoughts here?
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>> I shall ask the supplying dealer within the next few weeks for any customer feedback,
>> but wondered if there were any thoughts here?
Someone I know was targeted, followed from oxfordshire to Tring, where their brand new Range Rover sport was stolen 14 minutes after it was parked.
Get a tracker.
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I was surprised to see this on the Porsche website:
Anti-theft protection
All Macan models are equipped with an engine immobiliser. It works in response to an automatic exchange of data between the key and vehicle electronics. Upon correct identification, the engine start will be authorised by the engine electronics.
The Macan models can be optionally equipped with an alarm system including ultrasonic interior surveillance. In the Macan Turbo, the alarm system is fitted as standard, and ultrasonic interior surveillance can be added on request.
Is yours a turbo, or did you order the alarm?
I am not up to date on vulnerabilities, but when daughter and SiL bought their Audi a couple of years ago, similar cars had been spirited away locally without use of keys and despite an alarm and immobiliser. They were advised to get a Disklok.
Is yours also keyless start? There was a thread on here about that recently. If you don't keep the keys in a Garibaldi cage (biscuit tin) then the thieves can potentially use a signal amplifier to enter and start the car.
There comes a point of course where you say "I'll keep control of the keys, take sensible precautions, and just claim on the insurance if they still nick it".
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To be honest, the more secure the car, the more likely it is that anyone looking to steal it will go for the weakest link (i.e, you).
Insure it well, lock it, try not to leave it in dodgy areas, leave the keys visible in the house but not from outside the house so anyone breaking in doesn't use your ongoing skull integrity as a bargaining chip. Relax. Enjoy.
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>> anyone breaking in
>> doesn't use your ongoing skull integrity as a bargaining chip. Relax. Enjoy.
And how was your short career in stress counselling?
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It's a key start, GTS model
Nearer the time I'll investigate decent insurance companies, and they may offer discounts for a 'Tracker' being fitted, which will offset some of the additional costs.
I'm a member of the IAM with our own insurer, so will start there. I always take precautions with keys. If the worst happens, it's insured and only a lump of metal. Albeit a nice girlylump of metal. I'll also investigate this GAP insurance thingy.
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Scrotes won't touch your car LL. They'll want the men's ones...
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>> .... They'll want the men's ones...
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....he should fit a Trackerey and then they'll leave it well alone.......
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Or some of those stick on eyelashes for the headlights maybe?
;-)
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...I thought they already came in lieu of the alarm on the girly Porsches.....
(The Porsche Macan Mascara)
;-)
Last edited by: tyrednemotional on Tue 1 Aug 17 at 18:21
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Mustn't be too hard on him y'know. I think it's very brave of him. What with him being in Yorkshire and all. ;-)
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Only some of the time.
Funnily enough I saw a bright yellow Macan GTS in El Medano a few days ago. Definitely not a standard colour. Whoever chose that colour should be hanged drawn & quartered
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>> And how was your short career in stress counselling?
There are people out there who take the keys to bed with them as a "security measure". Stupid idea.
Last edited by: DP on Tue 1 Aug 17 at 18:40
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I take comfort in the fact that that what I look like when I've just got out of bed frightens even me.
;-)
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....sleep in the "pink and crinklies" do you?
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Don't have any of those, is that some kind of English night attire thing or is just, well, you?
;-)
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>> There are people out there who take the keys to bed with them as a
>> "security measure". Stupid idea.
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Some say 100 quid on the side near the front door, the logic being that most scrotes will grab and run with the dosh thinking they have done well and won't stretch their luck ...
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Oh very good, do you have any teenagers in the house? That hundred quid wouldn't be there all that long if there are !
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...what do you not understand about "most scrotes will grab and run with the dosh thinking they have done well and won't stretch their luck ..."
;-)
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>> Oh very good, do you have any teenagers in the house? That hundred quid wouldn't
>> be there all that long if there are !
>> ;-)
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Better they take your hundred quid than someone else's Porsche Pecan ;-)
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"Pecan"
That's going to stick isn't it?
;-))
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I own an apparently easy and desirable to steal vehicle, i have equipped it with a pedal lock (heavy steel box that wraps round all the pedals, and needs oxy [allegedly] to remove, but i'm not sure you could get one for your car), and also - a Disklock that covers the steering wheel. Both bright yellow colour.
Owned a couple of vans in the past and had numerous, dubious, people knocking on my and my neighbours, door asking "is it for sale?" and then disappearing without trace after clocking my neighbour's plethora of security cameras.
Soon after i bought my current vehicle they reported a couple of "ner do wells" turning up in the early hours, walking up to mine, seemingly spotted the blindingly obvious Disklock, and retreated.
No further incidents reported (gawd, i hope i'm not tempting fate !!)
One of my (specialist) vans was expensive, so i had a Cobra tracker fitted, happily never needed, but not regretted.
Another (not cheap) option i have considered, but not sure about the legality in my case (think dropped kerbs) is one of those security posts let into the ground (in front of your garage door ?), though i have noticed recently that someone about 300 yards away from me has fitted one to protect what looks like one of those '90's BTCC racers. (replica ?)
Digital security can be silently hacked, mechanical security usually needs lots of equipment and noise to overcome.
If you can do it, i would fit a post in front of your garage door along with a tracker in the car, so that's my long story short !
Oh - P.S. in the (very !) old days, i used to take the steering wheel and/or rotor arm off my car when i left it, soft top sports car, ... outside the Hard Rock, rotor arm in pocket, at home, S/Wheel in flat, no good nowadays i know, but life was so much simpler then !!
Apparently you're not allowed to connect your unattended car up to the mains .... Burgher !!
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This might be frowned on in the UK.
jalopnik.com/a-flamethrower-option-for-your-bmw-was-once-a-totally-r-1547017088
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I used to run bangers when I was in the office at work rather than on the road all the time. Being bangers they were easily stealable. I used to take the steering wheel off the Mk 2 Fiesta and take it into the office. Easy 'cos it wasn't splined but just on a hexagon. Other, more complex cars were protected by a very stout chain, links of perhaps 1.5 inches with a big padlock bolted through the floor pan or to one of the seat securing bolts. The end was wrapped round the steering wheel and was in good view. Never had a problem. You would need pretty big croppers to cut the chain but you just had to take the chance that Chummy, wanting a ride home from the pub, didn't actually carry any as a matter of course !
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>>Oh - P.S. in the (very !) old days, i used to take the steering wheel and/or rotor arm off my car when i left it,
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Tecalemit used to make a simple fuel shut off valve operated by a solenoid. That and a hidden switch soon brought things to a halt.
In the good old days but today elf and safety would not allow it in case the scroats hurt themselves when the power suddenly ceased. :-)
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>>Oh - P.S. in the (very !) old days, i used to take the steering wheel and/or rotor arm off my car when i left it,
Colleague had a Viva nicked many years ago. He used to remove the steering wheel, but it seemed they steered the thing with mole grips.
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>> Colleague had a Viva nicked many years ago.
>> He used to remove the steering wheel, but it seemed they steered the thing with mole grips.
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Been there done that.
Had a Crusader stolen in Brighton one evening.
The next morning I got a call that it had been found near the race course.
On site I met with the recovery company. The crusader had no interior fittings left.
Kneeling on the bare floor pan I steered it out with mole grips.
A very odd experience. It was only across grass not on the road.
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I think Cavaliers had a steering column which had a weak spot just below the wheel which snapped if force was used to try and break the steering lock with a bar in the wheel spokes
I recall attending a car in this state in a multi-storey car park. I couldn't get the transporter anywhere near it so I walked up with a mole wrench, drove it down to where I'd parked and loaded it up. Drove it off at the main dealers for repair.
Early cars had tiller steering sometimes...the 1910 Jowett in the owner's club has !
The owner looked on with amazement !
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The supplying dealer informs me that the vehicle is supplied with a Thatcham Cat 5 Tracker fitted as standard. The annual subscription is £235.
Hopefully there might be an app I can put on my smartphone/tablet which will let me know the vehicle's location at all times. That would be useful!
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If it has gone, it has gone! What is the merit knowing it has just been driven out of a container in some iffy Eastern European port.
Unless of course you have 'connections'.
Last edited by: sherlock47 on Thu 3 Aug 17 at 15:30
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The moment a car is recorded as stolen in the police database, its worth become far less even if it is returned undamaged.
If my car is stolen, I'd rather prefer to buy a new one with insurance money, instead of recovering it whatever condition.
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>> ...an app I can put on my smartphone/tablet which will let
>> me know the vehicle's location at all times. That would be useful!
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Certainly handy after a skinful and a curry, to find where you parked it!! :-)
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There are free tracker apps. You can install in a cheapo Android phone and stick in a hidden location. Just remember to charge it at least once a week. Of you can plug it permanently to a hidden 12V sockets in boot.
Manufacturers should provide tracker feature in every car. With sat navs already built in, it is a trivial task for them to enable the tracking feature. From a technology point of view, it is trivial to incorporate.
Last edited by: movilogo on Thu 3 Aug 17 at 16:06
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The missus car has an insurance black box fitted due to my young son being a driver.
This just plugs into the OBD port. It tracks every journey and also lets you locate your car. Using a phone app.
Obviously any thief in a well specced car would look for this but in a Beetle??
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Trackers and their ilk - Zero
