The Lad and his GF have flown out to Carcasonne for a few days with his Uncle who has a place out there. Left his recently acquired 2009 Pug 107 with me together with list of 'please Dad will you..' tasks.
Aside from cleaning these involve (a) getting it checked over by my local French Car specialist (b) sourcing tyres to replace the mixed bag of ditchfinders it came with. Spice added to latter task by his kerbing habit - currently earning a living delivering Dominos Pizzas.
Driven it to work and back a couple of times to get feel for any faults.
First impression is I wouldn't want one of my own. It's a 998cc 3 cyl petrol and with 25yrs of diesels behind me I stall the B thing with monotonous regularity. Won't pull the skin off a milk pudding unless you thrash it. Noisy on pick up from idle but actually quite relaxed cruising at 60 on the M1 access link. Rubbery gear change and steering that's the antithesis of the good old BL Mini which was last car of this size I drove regularly. Controls are obviously different to the Roomie but they don't follow same PSA protocols as the XAntia and Berlingos either. Still don't understand the audio or H&V controls.
OTOH it's come from Liverpool to Northampton with Mr Clod Foot on accelerator and only used an eighth of it's miniscule tank. Excellent all round visubility and you could almost get two of them in my habitual spot in the car park the office give us passes for.
Garage gave it a clean bill of health and four BF Goodrich tyres are well under £200.
But if I was in market for car that size I'd prefer the Skoda Citigo I had as a courtesy car while the Roomie was serviced.
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Brompt, while you have it , have a look in the boot. Lift the floor carpet and check around for puddles. Daughter's Aygo has it and friends 107 had water over the height of the spare wheel!
Known issue with them, usually coming through the high level brake light.
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>> Brompt, while you have it , have a look in the boot.
Checked before we bought; dry as a bone. His sister/her beau have same model and have had water ingress issues.
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>> Checked before we bought; dry as a bone
When I cleaned it yesterday the boot carpet was slightly damp and a little moisture in the spare wheel cover. Nothing in wheel well and dry down both rear pillars - where there was soaking trim on his sister's.
Check with a hose found nothing except that water standing on glass tailgate drips into boot when it's open. Pretty sure this is source and not leaks round lights.
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>>currently earning a living delivering Dominos Pizzas.
Hope he's got business use insurance.
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>> Hope he's got business use insurance.
Dominos provide 3rd party cover, already in play after crash of mirrors on a delivery last month. Needs to sort out cover for own car though.
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Orrible droning things with that 3 cyl., but very practical if you can live with something that size. Glad I don't have to, but not much wrong with them for cheap and effective.
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I remember a Citroen C1 courtesy car a few years back, and was quite taken by it in a basic-transport way. The 3-cylinder thrum is very cheery and entirely appropriate in such a car. The VW Up! we have at work moved the small 3-cylinder city car gig on considerably. I wonder what the latest C108Aygos are like in comparison?
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I too am a big fan of small cars / basic transport. Our Up!, though not basic in sense of the word, was huge fun to drive, even though it only had 75bhp. We also have a very basic Renault Kangoo at work.. only 60 bhp I think, and rubber mats instead of carpet. Still enjoyable to thrash around, and it does have a very good (loud) stereo!!
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Not sure why you would take a Japanese designed car to a French car specialist, but it's a simply car so any mechanic should be able to fix.
We love our C1 and will be sorry to see it go when the time comes. I often stalled it at first, but soon got the hang of it. The column stalks are lifted from the Toyota parts bin so won't follow any PSA protocols. Not sure what's not to understand with the H&V controls - two vertical sliders (temp and direction), one horizontal (recirc/fresh) a fan switch and maybe an A/C button. The standard radio is probably best left switched off.
Finally, don't be fooled by the fuel gauge only loosing one blob from Liverpool to Northampton - it's not linear. On ours, the top two blobs equate to approx. half a tank.
Agree a Citigo or clone would be preferable, but then it's a much newer design.
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>> Not sure why you would take a Japanese designed car to a French car specialist,
Having had PSA cars in the fleet since 1990 I'm a longstanding customer and while I've occasionally doubted his diagnoses I trust him. Irrespective of the lion on the bonnet he'd have been my first port of call.
Some bits are from the PSA bin, most obviously the eyeball air vents in the dash.
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Tyres fitted this morning. Tracking was out so I got that sorted too. Feels quite different, steering now light and positive without previous vagueness around straight ahead.
Work done at local branch of Formula 1 Autocentres. Apart from a silly booking system that kept me waiting an hour before they could start job (filled bygetting myself brekky in Sainsbury's) they were excellent. Watched the guy doing the tyres after speaking to make sure my instructions about which current tyre was to go to spare plus issue with a dinged steel rim. He was right on the ball . Clearly a bit of an effort to get the studs out but he checked them carefully with a torque wrench on refitting. Hideous plastic wheel trims duly replaced and carefully secured with cable ties - is this a new safety requirement?
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>> Hideous plastic wheel trims duly replaced and carefully secured with cable ties
>> - is this a new safety requirement?
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I don't think so, but it's impossible to otherwise have a car for more than six months without losing one of the damn things. The last car I had with them was the Mondeo and I replaced the battered originals with a set of shiny replacements. Within a week the nearside front parted company with it's wheel when I hit some unexpected standing water one night. I never did find it.
Re your previous post on water ingress, Mrs O'Reliant's Corsa suffers from damp footwells, a well known problem with that model. There is simply no excuse for it in this day and age.
Last edited by: Robin O'Reliant on Sat 24 Sep 16 at 14:24
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>> Re your previous post on water ingress, Mrs O'Reliant's Corsa suffers from damp footwells, a
>> well known problem with that model. There is simply no excuse for it in this
>> day and age.
What's the point of ingress in the Corsa? In 107 it's rear lights and can be improved by removing covers, as per bulb change process, and cleaning dirt algae etc from seals.
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>> What's the point of ingress in the Corsa? In 107 it's rear lights and can
>> be improved by removing covers, as per bulb change process, and cleaning dirt algae etc
>> from seals.
Somewhere under the baulkhead when I searched the Vauxhall forums. I believe it finds it's way in past the seal where the brake servo locates, or some other rather time consuming job. Cures can be a bit hit and miss so most people don't seem to bother. Vauxhall deny there is a problem, despite it cropping up on the forums with monotonous regularity. Mrs O'R likes the car so she is prepared to live with it.
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There was a car like van parked next to me in a motorway service area yesterday near Bury. It was signwritten advertising the services of its driver as a restorer of alloy wheels. Not that I take any interest in such things...anyway, I couldn't help noticing that his own wheels had plastic hubcaps which had seen better days. I did feel slightly inclined to give him some marketing advice but given that he was huge, a bit cross eyed and festooned with tattoos I decided that I'd perhaps leave it. ;-)
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Yesterday I had to drive daughters 59 plate Aygo for a few miles, drop it off and pick up wife's 59 plate Fiesta and drive that back.
What a world of difference in comfort, noise and especially engine noise.
Daughter is now using the Aygo for a 30 mile each way motorway commute and I really am not sure I am particularly comfortable with this. Especially as we are about to hit winter, dark and wet commutes.
It doesn't feel that safe.
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I got the same feeling in my daughters small Fiat Panda.
Nice in town but on the Motorway uncomfortable.The Punto a different car altogether bigger and felt safer sharp brakes and excellent lights.
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>> Yesterday I had to drive daughters 59 plate Aygo for a few miles, drop it
>> off and pick up wife's 59 plate Fiesta and drive that back.
>> What a world of difference in comfort, noise and especially engine noise.
I think the C1/Aygo is a great dodgem and on short acquaintance, or long inuring perhaps, people seem to like them. For me, as a regular transport, they are horrible things. I had one as courtesy car for three weeks and found it entertaining for a couple of days; after the novelty had worn off, I found the droning bray of its little donkey more and more irritating.
My son's 2005 Panda 1.2 Dynamic is a limo in comparison, quieter, rides better, and more room.
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>> Hideous plastic wheel trims duly replaced and carefully secured with cable ties
Make sure there's something in the car to cut them with in the event of a puncture.
Unless you'd rather he left it to someone else, I suppose.
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>> OTOH it's come from Liverpool to Northampton with Mr Clod Foot on accelerator and only
>> used an eighth of it's miniscule tank.
That seems unlikely, whoever was driving.
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>> >> OTOH it's come from Liverpool to Northampton with Mr Clod Foot on accelerator and
>> only
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>> That seems unlikely, whoever was driving.
I'm fairly sure it's one of those on which the needle barely moves for 150 miles, after which it drops like a stone.
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Peugeot 107 - Quick Impression - Bobby
