Motoring Discussion > Vehicles Cut Roundabouts Legal Questions
Thread Author: zippy Replies: 13

 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - zippy
I have seen this with cars coming straight on and it is frightening – had to go up on the pavement to avoid a head on collision.

It seems that it is becoming more common, keep an eye out and be careful!


www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37218227

and a different one...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205850/Lorry-driver-sentenced-caught-camera-going-WRONG-WAY-Britain-s-dangerous-roundabout.html

 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - CGNorwich
Not seen it in the UK but have seen a GB car go round a French roundabout the wrong way near Dunquerque.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - legacylad
I can think of 5 roundabouts off the top of my head where two lanes approach and two exit. Many is the time I have seen a car in lane 1 cut across the white lines on the roundabout into lane 2 then repeat the process in reverse. I take extra care at these roundabouts and make sure that if in lane 2 I am not slightly behind someone in lane1 who is likely to cut me up.
Lane discipline seems to be non existent for some motorists
Last edited by: legacylad on Tue 30 Aug 16 at 22:29
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - bathtub tom
Seen it a few times at this roundabout, where the local yoof approach from the south (A413) and exit to the west (A422) without bothering to circumnavigate.

goo.gl/maps/v8XrKntGyyq
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Manatee
>> Seen it a few times at this roundabout, where the local yoof approach from the
>> south (A413) and exit to the west (A422) without bothering to circumnavigate.
>>
>> goo.gl/maps/v8XrKntGyyq


I did exactly that the other day BT, on my way to Ludlow - do you mean arriving from the south and going east? That would fit with them being MK barry boys on their way home:)
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Mapmaker
It's a somewhat confusing junction that one. I suspect he saw this sign:

goo.gl/maps/tfAymCq6fDo

and assumed that the road was one-way only. So he placed himself in the right-hand lane, for direction Cambridge - rather than the cut-through towards Earith - and then of course ended up entering the roundabout going in the wrong direction.

I have a little sympathy for him, it's a complicated junction. And it's a junction where there are plenty of accidents. But it's not one where you can drive round it too quickly, so it wasn't particularly dangerous.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Robin O'Reliant
Some thirty years ago I had a moment of madness entering a roundabout with the intention of exiting at three o'clock and found myself turning immediately right on entry. Luckily it was quiet with little traffic and I recovered the situation and was able to reverse and take the correct course before I went too far.

Shook me up at the time and for a while afterwards too. Just shows how you only need to switch off for a second or two to put yourself (And everyone else) in real danger.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Crankcase
It's a rubbish roundabout. The "cut throughs" Mapamker describes don't have priority when you get to end of them, so what actually happens is all the locals know this and use the actual roundabout. Non-locals are (mis)guided by the signs to take the cut through, and then discover they have to give way to all the traffic coming off the roundabout anyway. Much frustration, pushing in, crazy pulling out and honking.

I did ask the council about it once, soon after it was built, and incidentally why the whole roundabout is built on the side of a hill to add to the fun, but had no sensible answer. I also asked about the layby just down the A14, which was built at a cost of £600,000, and closed immediately it was finished, some years ago. It's never been open (emergency use only). Apparently the exit was wrongly specced and it's too dangerous to actually use. I got no sensible answer to that one either. Nor indeed any answer about the Very Expensive traffic lights installed just over the bridge from this roundabout, on the A14 slip road. They also worked for precisely three days after opening, the queues ran down the A14 for a million miles, then they were quietly switched off, the traffic returned to just half million mile queues, and the lights were physically removed again.

But hey, this whole immediate area is going to be under a massive new town in the next little while anyway, and all these junctions will be uprated, improved, removed, replaced, dug up, reinstated, traffic lit, bridged, removed again, replaced, re-designed, improved, removed...




Last edited by: Crankcase on Wed 31 Aug 16 at 11:14
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Crankcase
Edit: too late, but noticed my typo. Sorry Mapamker.

Clonkcarse.

 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Pat
I agree with every word Crankcase, you've summed the whole area up very accurately.

The only thing that worries me is that the driver was English and an Army trained HGV Driver...that doesn't inspire confidence!

Pat
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Bill Payer
>> The only thing that worries me is that the driver was English and an Army
>> trained HGV Driver...that doesn't inspire confidence!
>>
That is a bit worrying. OK, the signage is very slightly confusing but if you drive around all day you get used to that sort of thing. There's plenty of chevrons pointing the way to go. Can only assume he had complete brain fade.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Bill Payer
>> www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205850/Lorry-driver-sentenced-caught-camera-going-WRONG-WAY-Britain-s-dangerous-roundabout.html
>>
Who hasn't wanted to do that?! I bet even he was slightly alarmed though when the car coming the other way appeared at exactly the wrong time.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - Mapmaker
33 vehicles doing it in a 24 hour period. So that's one every 45 minutes. Wow.
 Vehicles Cut Roundabouts - martin aston
I read this thread this morning then went out in the car. And I should say, given what follows, I am also a regular cyclist.
About five minutes into my journey I came up to a T-junction with a traffic island splitting the carriageways on my leg of the junction. Just as I approached the give way line a crowd of about twenty middle aged (leisure not Lycra) cyclists came from my left on the main road.
They made to turn right into the road I was on. Unfortunately half a dozen of them decided to cut the corner on the wrong side of the road and go between my braking car and the island. It was very close and left me shaken To make it worse the following tail end cyclists, who presumably didn't see the incident properly, gave me the benefit of the finger and other gestures.
The fact that they'd have come off worse in any collision makes their behaviour all the more stupid. If I had a dashcam I wonder if the police would have been interested? I somehow doubt it and yet registered road users doing the same manoeuvre would (rightly) be subject to the full extent of the law including jail.
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