Since my daughter got a 59 plate Aygo, I have discovered that these cars, Aygo, 107, C1, have some major design flaws which means they leak like sieves.
My daughter's has a damp floor and a wee bit squelchy in the corners. On researching it would appeal that there are several areas that are prone to leaking but number one area is the seal around the high level brake light.
I have resealed my daughters with some foam seal that you get for around doors and it seems to be holding well with the boot still dry.
However , in a chance conversation, my dads friend has a 107 and is thinking of getting rid of car cos it is always damp. Bring it over and I will have a look, says I, I am pretty sure I know what it will be.
So this 107, the spare wheel well had water higher than the spare wheel. The mat in the boot which kind of resembles old underlay was absolutely saturated. The back seats of the car were soaking, literally lean on them and the water came up to the surface!
So it was wheel out, luckily there are two plugs in the bottom of the spare wheel well so this helped the draining process. I stripped back the trim all around the boot and could see evidence of water on both sides right up to the top. So definitely pointing to the brake light being at least one source of ingress, maybe the sole source, maybe not. But have replaced this with a brand new light (30 odd quid). The light I took off had , what can only be described as residue where the seal once was.
The car is now in my dads garage with an electric fan heater and electric dehumidifier running in it in 4 hour cycles to try and dry it off. I may still remove the rear seats, looks like a simple job with a socket set, to try and dry them quicker in the house and also let me get at the flooring at the back.
Once fully dry, I will make some chalk or talc marks around the rear hatch area to try and establish where the water is coming through, if it still is.
I did make a joke that it must have been therapeutic driving the car to the sound of crashing waves every time she braked - she had heard the noise but assumed it was the petrol in the tank!
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The first generation Aygo/C1/107 did have issues with leaks.
The Aygo had issues due to perishing seals around the rear lights and high level brake light, vents behind the rear bumper, rear tailgate bump stops, cracked washer jet, front door membranes and the front door speaker membranes.
These issues had production fixes between February 2009 and September 2011.
Toyota extended the warranty to five years to cover water leaks on pre June 2010 cars - cars post June 2010 had the five year/100,000 mile new car warranty.
The same issues were common to the C1/107, though don't know what Peugeot/Citroen did as regards rectification, etc.
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Most people I know with these models can't/couldn't wait to get rid of them ASAP.
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They didn't all leak, and certainly with the Aygo, some owners have taken them to over 150,000/180,000 miles and are still quite happy with them.
The second generation Aygo is based on the first generation, and was Toyota's second best seller in the UK in 2015.
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Miss B and her partner have a 2008 107, originally bought by his parents when he passed 17. They have problems like Bobby describes with rain water soaking carpet and pooling round spare wheel.
Can trace point of entry back up inside of both pillars so it's probably either the main light cluster or the high level brake. He and I removed one light assembly (amazingly he's never had a rear bulb go) and cleaned/re-seated it. He was going to do the other and check the high level one.
Never got a report back. Will check if he solved it.
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Outside my M&Ds old house the car (MG 1300, Austin 1100 lookalike) used to be parked on a quite steep camber. If it rained the drivers foot well would fill with water as the drivers door didn't close properly. It was OK though as once I got on level ground the floor was so rusted underneath the drivers door that the water ran away. Carpet remained wet though... I think I was lucky that the big end went before the floor fell through...
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Mrs O'Reliant's '51 plate Corsa has the same problem with water leaking from somewhere in the bulkhead. After a night's rain the carpets are soaking, apparently a problem with Corsas up to quite a late reg that Vauxhall deny. Most Corsa owners I've spoken to report the same issue.
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You have TWO Vauxhalls?
Blimey
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Did you not used to have a Signum???
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I did Bobby. Kept it about 8 months. One learns from things.
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>> You have TWO Vauxhalls?
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>> Blimey
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I had three on the drive at Spamcan Towers for most of the naughties ;-)
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>> >> You have TWO Vauxhalls?
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>> I had three on the drive at Spamcan Towers for most of the naughties ;-)
I suppose you need a good fire at this time of the year
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>> I suppose you need a good fire at this time of the year
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only one caught fire; not a bad innings ;-)
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>> only one caught fire; not a bad innings ;-)
I guess it dried out the flood in the other?
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>> >> only one caught fire; not a bad innings ;-)
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>> I guess it dried out the flood in the other?
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Thankfully never had water ingress problems with any of them (never had a Corsa mind you). Sticky idle air control valves were about the only problem where i'd say they were worse than I expected. Not a problem on the (relatively) newer drive by wire jobbies.
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>> You have TWO Vauxhalls?
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>> Blimey
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I operate at the end of the market where make comes below price.
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Daughter has a Feb 2010 107 and never had a water ingress problem. Touchwood!
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>> Mrs O'Reliant's '51 plate Corsa has the same problem with water leaking from somewhere in the bulkhead.
Have you checked the drain holes aren't blocked with leaves (or AN Other debris) at the bottom of the scuttle panel under the bonnet? One of the most common problems that cause this.
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Because of the places I regularly park my cars, I've got used to removing the microbiomes from these channels. A nice surprise when I first did it for the BMW was that each one has a little removable grating, which can be lifted out, rinsed clean and replaced. Simple and effective and - so far - dry feet.
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>> Have you checked the drain holes aren't blocked with leaves (or AN Other debris) at
>> the bottom of the scuttle panel under the bonnet? One of the most common problems
>> that cause this.
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I have checked and that's not the problem. Looking on the Vauxhall forums there are countless threads by people with the same problem, a rubber seal somewhere is generally the problem. (Can't remember which but it involves a fair amount of dismantling and is likely to fail again anyway).
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>> So it was wheel out, luckily there are two plugs in the bottom of the
>> spare wheel well so this helped the draining process.
Replace the plugs with grommets, and a short lengths of bicycle inner tube - 3" or so.
Push tube through grommet, fold over grommet into mushroom shape, install carefully... might take a bit of experimentation.
This forms a non-return valve of sorts
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Peugeot 107 swimming pool - Auristocrat
