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I've just been watching an episode based on taking a Blue/Silver do-what-you-likey Range Rover and painting it white as well as sorting out a few other bits.
I enjoy the show, its pleasant entertainment.
However, they bought this RR for £5k, spent another £5k on it and sold it for £11k which doesn't take into account any of Edd China's labour or the state of the art workshop and tools that they have at their disposal.
Seemingly suggesting that it is impossible to make a business out of buying cars and materially improving them before selling them at a profit.
No wonder there are so many dodgy recons, repairs and rebuilds out there.
On the other hand, given access to the facilities, I find it amazing how much they do manage to achieve. If I had bought that RR for £5k and managed to do that to it for another £5k I'd have been keeping it and been well happy to do so.
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Love dipping into this programme now and again. The US version seems quite good as well as the budget seems to have been upped. Obviously broadcast in the US as there is an warning to idiots at the end.
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They're shown on Discovery here quite often, including the US version.
I enjoy both although Brewer's "cheeky chappy" act goes to toe curling extremes at times.
Actually we're pretty well supplied with such shows, we get all the US shows as well; Gas Monkey, Counting Cars and loads and loads more. Most of them are quite entertaining although the bottom of the barrel is scraped here and there.
The only really consistently unwatchable one is the US version of Top Gear which is simply awful.
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Agreed. They are dreadful. WD is low key stuff that works quite well. Mike was a member at HJ's site wasn't he ? His Cheeky Chappie ways are quite irritating, I'd give him a discount to get rid of him if I was a trader !
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They do seem to edit the program quite well. I've often noticed new suspension arms, ball joints, brake discs etc. that aren't mentioned in the narrative or the cost.
Like car SOS. Very shallow.
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But still....it's entertainment in a non threatening/irritating way.
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I like WD but they could just ditch Mike Brewer and make it an hour with Ed - would be far more entertaining for me.
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>> I like WD but they could just ditch Mike Brewer and make it an hour
>> with Ed - would be far more entertaining for me.
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I'm with this guy.
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>> But still....it's entertainment in a non threatening/irritating way.
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I find it irritating as the work isn't costed accurately, and often not at all. One programme I saw featured a car needing some paintwork and the bodyshop decided to do a full repray but without changing their original price.
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>Mike was a member at HJ's site wasn't he
He was, briefly.
Someone commented on his show, I don't remember who it was or what was said, but it was pretty gentle feedback and suggestions, and Brewer got a major and over-reacting sulk on, said something like "If you don't like it don't watch it" and flounced never to be seen again.
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>> >Mike was a member at HJ's site wasn't he
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>> He was, briefly.
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>> Someone commented on his show, I don't remember who it was or what was said,
>> but it was pretty gentle feedback and suggestions, and Brewer got a major and over-reacting
>> sulk on, said something like "If you don't like it don't watch it" and flounced
>> never to be seen again.
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I'm not surprised - he had a twitter spat recently with ling of lingcars. He made some very childish threats about closing her business down
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OH NO the "L" word she'll be here in a minute !!!
As suggested Ed could carry that programme.
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As suggested Ed could carry that programme.
He probably could, although endorsing Evans Cool somewhat debases it. Because in the act of omitting water, the specific heat capacity of the fluid is reduced. This means in the event of a radiator that is only just adequate (very few are in excess of requirements) the engine will run hotter, just that it won't boil. Banned on American race tracks I understand.
But as a wallet emptying tool, pretty good...
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Wheeler dealers interview, with the tall guy. A bit naff but shows his sense of humour.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSL9q6a1_s
I watched the episode on the Triumph Stag and it was clearly stated that the majority of engine failures are due to owners not paying attention to the cooling system , as I have posted before, so Quentin Wilson & co please note.
Ensure correct coolant is used and maintained.
Check top and bottom hoses and claer sludge from the radiator.
A replacement radiator with a modern core is also suggested.
Youtube has zapped the good copies and the only naff one I can see has no sound track..
Triumph Stag some suggested improvements
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0goqxs8hs
An old PR film on Triumph.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OanO_XEuH8c
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>A bit naff but shows his sense of humour.
Rather improved my opinion of him. Thank you for that.
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I must have seen most the episodes of Wheeler Dealers. I think the reason the labour costs are not included is the fact the show is all about doing the work yourself, so it is not supposed to be a business, the business is the TV show and they don't claim otherwise. Edd was actually asked about this in an interview.
It may have been the Range Rover episode, I can't remember but one of them had a dodgy sat nav, so they replaced it with a refurb unit which came with a CD containing the latest maps. The dealer wanted £850 for a new one, they paid just over £100, which suggests to me the maps were pirated.
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I'm with you Rats. I've always seen it as a show which is mainly for the entertainment of car nerds ( yes I'm one ) but also serves to illustrate that you can take a tired car and with the addition of ( often considerable ) effort but not a huge amount of money turn it into something very much improved/rejuvenated.
I used to have a huge drive in workshop space at my old house and if I still did, I'd probably have some kind of automotive project going on in there. Did I ever tell you about the Westfield I once rebuilt?
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>> ....but one of them had a dodgy sat nav, so they replaced it with a refurb unit which came
>> with a CD containing the latest maps. The dealer wanted £850 for a new one,
>> they paid just over £100, which suggests to me the maps were pirated.
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I have to make do with a three year old map CD as no newer ones are being produced.
As I have pointed out before, the CD was probably NOT pirated.
The marketing is simple.
You, as the legitimate owner of an original CD ( for my car they cost £200 ) are permitted to make a back up copy. We are presuming you have an original CD, hence we are supplying you a back up copy.
( all in the small print ;-) )
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Do roads and buildings move so frequently that map updates are required every year or so?
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Mine hasn't been updated for years, the point was I thought it was a bit poor buying a part that wasn't technically legal. I bet the maps alone cost over £100.
I think they need to be updated about every 3 years or so, junctions to change especially in Manchester as the city is growing so quickly however it is not a problem for me as I only use the sat nav as a guide. I hardly use it anyway I mainly use it once I get into a strange down to find the address, rather than to navigate to areas (I make my own way).
If I had space I would love to buy a car to do up, but even if I did I doubt I would have the time anyway.
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I'm lucky with my sat nav, down here we don't need updates as the roads are the same as they were when Queen Vic was in the chair.
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Friend of mine, an ex south London car dealer, has had dealings with the cheeky chap and his opinion of him is unprintable.......
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similar shows - For the Love of Cars and Classic Car Rescue. Both on torrents.
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Oh no!!
The latest series of WD has gone all American. Just like Brewers "trading Up" series, he's now quoting prices in dollars and not pounds.
What was once a primarily UK TV show, it now seems to be catering more for the American TV market. Yuk!
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MB 560SL - last night's episode - it was in outstanding condition for a 30 yr old car & 140K miles.
The car had obviously well looked after but needed a refurb - I'd have bought it for the $12,000 it was sold for - even in LHD.
44hrs labour & $5K in parts on top of the buying price - leaving $1,000 "profit". So even ' $30/hour it would have been a loss.
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This is the second US series. I think the idea is to alternate between here and there. I don't think they should have lowered the Merc, BTW, though the euro spec bumpers and lights did improve its looks.
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Car SOS.
With Fuzz and Tim.
A much better show, in my honest opinion.
This series:
P1800 Volvo
240 Datsun
AC Aceca
2002 turbo
90s RangeRover
I enjoy China, but that other chap...
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> Car SOS
Even worse, in my opinion. You rarely get shown how something was fixed, and the blagging that Tim does is cringeworthy.
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>> 44hrs labour ...
Quoting the labour hours was long overdue. Helps to put the work into a proper perspective.
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Not sure its worthy of its own thread but I read today Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers to persue other projects.
Said to be replaced by former copper Ant Anstead who I think did the restoration program with him from Life On Mars.
I liked Edd, not keen on Ant but will still watch although not on Discovery as I think they've pulled from Sky.
(no idea what Wheeler Dealers had to do with Top Gear, so moved it to the latest WD thread I could find)
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I wonder if Mike Brewer has got any fatter? If you watch the re-runs of the old series you can almost date them by the increasing size of him. I did begin to wonder if Edd had been shoving the airline where it would have that effect? ;-)
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>> I read today Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers to persue other projects.
T'is true.
jalopnik.com/edd-china-is-leaving-wheeler-dealers-because-velocity-w-1793498487
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY
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>> >> I read today Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers to persue other projects.
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>> T'is true.
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Shame, I will miss him, he was the best part of the show by a long way.
Still, it will be on Quest for years to come yet.
Incidentally, I saw him with his wife in Marlow recently, He's a big lad, isn't he.
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>> will still watch although not on Discovery as I think they've pulled from Sky.
Missed that comment earlier. Sky & Discovery have settled their differences.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38826581
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For me Ed was the main part of the show. It could survive fine without Brewer.
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Watched a lot of tat CAR SOS when I was ill in January. That Fuzz bloke seems to have it, he should ditch that other one though.
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For me it seems that both shows have different approaches...
Car SOS - Full restoration from bottom up, repair/replace all nuts bolts, respray bits that are hidden.
Wheeler Dealers - early ones, patch them up to turn a few quid, later and USA ones did a better strip-down and rebuild.
I would say Car SOS produced the better end result.
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Yes they do. And I rather like it that way.
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Agreed, but I learned more from Wheeler Dealers. When watching Car SOS I longed for Fuzz to spend time showing us how they did some of the repairs.
Of the four fixes they highlight each show on Wheeler Dealers, at least one was typically very interesting to me. Highlights include repairing the SLK roof, fixing the rangerover air suspension/
They got a few wrong too - the worst was the Suzuki 4x4 which they raised and fitted a roll bar to without checking the basic structure first to see if it was MOTable.
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Not to forget mentioning Classic Car Rescue and Chop Shop both with shouty Bernie.
Both crap but hillarious when he gets going!
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>> Not to forget mentioning Classic Car Rescue and Chop Shop both with shouty Bernie.
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>> Both crap but hillarious when he gets going!
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Far too staged and boring for me.
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Is that the annoying cockney bloke? I think I managed 10 minutes until I switched off. He's far too annoying and the show is too staged for me.
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My favourite currently is Roadkill. It's a US show based primarily around muscle cars and hot rods (the two presenters are both from Hot Rod magazine).
The premise is usually to fix up some rusting heap found in a breakers yard or bought on Craigslist for peanuts, incorporate as much bodgery and shortcutting as they can get away with (there is a running joke about zip (cable) ties running through the series), and then do a road trip to a drag meet or some other event, or complete a series of challenges. The car is usually given a name, and tends to feature in subsequent episodes as well. The last one I watched involved the "Rotsun" - a beaten up Datsun 240Z which they fitted with a 4.3 litre Chevy V6, and bolted on a turbo from a Ford Powerstroke diesel engine. It makes over 300 horsepower, looks like a complete shed, and breaks down. A lot.
The best way I can describe it is the Top Gear budget car road trips and challenges without the scripting and staged "incidents". These two guys do all their own spannering, and fix their own breakdowns at the side of the road, often lying in a pool of oil or coolant. The timescales and budgets they have to do the work are hopelessly unrealistic. Failures are frequent. The cars often look like deathtraps, have no brakes worthy of the name, no interiors, more rust than sheet metal, and often attract the attention of the law.
It's hilariously funny. The two presenters work really well together, and it's completely unscripted which gives it a much more natural feel than Top Gear, for example. You can find it on YouTube, or on early access on subscription, along with a load of other related content, for £4 a month.
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Another favourite. A beaten up 1969 Impala that they shoehorned a 700 horsepower supercharged 8 litre V8 into.
tinyurl.com/md7ba2e
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Edd China on Mike Brewer:
Seems Mike and his family have been receiving loads of abuse, and even death threats because Edd decided to quit.
What is wrong with these people? It's just a TV show.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=umWmzN1MqWs
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>> What is wrong with these people? It's just a TV show.
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It's an extreme version of the comments you see in all sorts of places online, from comments on newspaper articles, to twitter etc, to internet forums. Online anonymity leaves the scum of society free to say what they want without repercussion.
I do, like you, worry about the dark side of some of those we share the world with.
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>>What is wrong with these people? It's just a TV show.
In a previous life I had to deal with the recipients of of malicious 'phone calls. A female friend was receiving some, (she previously lived in the middle-of-nowhere and didn't understand the concept of curtains when undressing). I like to think I had some effect when shortly after arriving home, she took her coat off in front of her window and promptly received the 'phone call. I made myself obvious in the window with a pair of binoculars and pointed at a darkened window opposite. She received no more, but it may also have been due to the actions of another occupant (in the house of what you'd now call 'multiple occupancy) who was, shall we call an 'exotic dancer', completely humiliating the caller whenever he subsequently rang.
I explained you don't have to worry about those that contact you, it's those that don't who are a danger.
I was later lucky to get off with a mild rebuke after seeing this friend in a supermarket and approaching unseen asked "do you still wear those sexy red knickers?" I like to think it made her realise the triviality of the situation.
They're what we now know as trolls.
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I don't think its a great series, but I quite enjoy it. I just watched Episode 1 of Season 14, about an Escort Cosworth.
No Edd China, now its a guy called Ant Anstead. He's ok, obviously a first episode, but he was really ok.
Edd on why Edd left...
jalopnik.com/edd-china-is-leaving-wheeler-dealers-because-velocity-w-1793498487
Mike on why Edd left....
www.motoringbox.com/cars/entertainment/wheeler-dealers/mike-brewer-roasts-edd-china-he-did-some-very-bad-things/
Given that the technical content does not appear to have reduced, it kind of suggests that Mike's perspective is the more likely. As do one or two other things that I'm aware have cropped up over the years. But who knows for sure.
Nonetheless, the show remains pretty much where it was, as far as I am concerned, watchable car-oriented entertainment.
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Same as you, I think it's watchable rather than great, but it does seem to be a heck of a coincidence that the two presenters fell out (for whatever reason) the very season after the production company and format changed, and the budget seemed to increase.
The whole death threat thing against Mike Brewer and his family was ridiculous though.
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Thanks I'll keep an eye out.
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I read somewhere that it was Wednesday at 9:00pm. But I cannot find where I read that, nor confirm that it is correct.
I don't have very good access to TV Guides here.
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Mike Brewer has a bit of an ego I suspect. That Ant bloke was pretty good on Car Rescue. Who knows. Brewer is a friend of HJ and used to promote himself on the other forum.
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>>and used to promote himself on the other forum.
Until, as I recall, someone said they didn't like the show much and he had a proper teddy bear throwing moment.
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That was my recollection as well
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Brewer's a car salesman, and like most of them, never believe a word he says. I know a lot of the TV stuff is staged, but look at some of the porkies he's told on Wheeler Dealers.
Much prefer Edd over Brewer any day of the week.
Can't wait to see what Edd has in the pipeline.
In the meantime, I saw this on youtube a couple of months ago. Made me chuckle anyway.
youtu.be/uCkGM1zSx8Q
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Reading between the lines in mike's statement, I wonder if there was an element of 'I'm the star he's just the hired help'
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>>Can't wait to see what Edd has in the pipeline.
I doubt it'll be any more successful than most of his other ventures.
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I always fast forwarded through Mike's bits and only watched Edd.
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>> I always fast forwarded through Mike's bits and only watched Edd.
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I thought they were sufficiently awful that they had to be watched.
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I've never watched Wheeler Dealers, I don't know who Ed China is (might by sight I guess), I've always thought that Mike Brewer is a wheeler dealer so would not make a point of watching anything he is in.
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>> I don't know who Ed China is
Madcap petrolhead inventor. Sofa, toilet, desk, bed, shed, shopping trolley, You name it, he's probably put an engine in it.
At one time he held a few world speed records for his inventions.
www.greasejunkie.com/
www.youtube.com/channel/UCTnK3UFznEB5bd4vDEFMM4A
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Thanks!
And yes I recognise him.
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Just watched the Toyota Supra episode.
It was ok, new$bloke coming across pretty well I thought. I like his style.
The problem, if there is one, is that new$bloke makes Brewer look tatty and old fashioned. He's overweight, badly dressed, greasy-haired, unkempt and possessed of 1980's car dealer's chat. The new guy is tall, slim, well-presented, clearly in shape, smart and speaks well.
I suspect that all is not going to go well.
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Latest episodes not being shown here yet. I'll have to have a nosey around Kodi later.
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Ive watched up to the Supra episode on Kodi, admittedly I fell asleep in that episode! You need the Fifth Gear addon.
I will watch, but miss Edd. New bloke is ok. Like Mark, I'm getting bored of the Brewer section and I used to enjoy the cheaper series 1-2, £1000 - £200 limit tyre kicking type buying.
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Just to add, I follow someone called Ian Seabrook (HubNut on Youtube), buys, tarts up and driver/owner review of old motors. A very good watch.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCfxlBQnvNXX6o-2KbCMszWQ
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On holiday (not far from Harleman !) - by chance caught an episode of "classic" WD on the TV yesterday evening. 02 Range Rover - It was one of the better episodes. Yet to see the new one. Is it due to come out on non-Kodi television soon ?
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>>Yet to see the new one. Is it due to come out on
>> non-Kodi television soon ?
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You can watch on Sky Discovery.
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>> You can watch on Sky Discovery.
Not seen any mention of new episodes yet (or trailers come to that) on Discovery.
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OK, assumed as it was on Kodi it would have been broadcasted.
Maybe as it is a US producer now it is getting airtime on US TV first.
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Saw Ed China in the local garage last week with a slightly more modern Range Rover. Big lad, isn't he?
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Just watched the Saab 96 episode of WD. I was really impressed with the glaziers skill at modifying a 2014 Chevrolet Impala windscreen to fit it.
Never watched anything Ant's been in before WD. I'm warming to him. Different way of working to Edd, very good with fabrication from what I saw of removing the rust and replacing metal panels on the Saab. And unlike Edd, he doesn't wear gloves when handling the oily bits.
Looking forward to watching the remaining episodes.
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I just watched the Mitsubishi 3000GT episode
It was really, good and very interesting, I really enjoyed it. Even Brewer came across as so much more sincere and less fake.
Like Dave on the Saab episode, I think Ant's seems to be really working out well.
Certainly worth watching if you get the chance.
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I read somewhere that the UK launch of the new WD is in Jan 2018.
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Bit annoying for those in the UK, then. On the other hand, its not often I get to see something first, so ya, boo, sucks.
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Not annoying for all of us ;)
I'll no doubt watch the episodes again when Discovery get around to broadcasting them here, just like I do with all the other previous WD episodes. In the meantime, I'll just stream them from my firestick.
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This week's was a Austin Healey 3000 MKIII
Thoroughly enjoyable.
I recall that Edd said he was leaving because the new producers were going to cut down on the technical content.
Mike Brewer said Edd was leaving because he'd become a Princess. (I paraphrase).
After 9 episodes I see no sign of reduced technical content, so I'm leaning towards the Princess theory.
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>> After 9 episodes I see no sign of reduced technical content,
I think there is a very small reduction, but nowhere near what we were lead to believe. The technical content is also different to when Edd was doing it.
I'm actually starting to prefer it to the old WD. Well apart from the American content when he's pricing up parts, etc.
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Adolf has just found out that Edd has left the show...... made me laugh, some bad language for those easily offended.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBzrChs4fE
FEGERLEIN , FEGERLEIN.
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There's a great version of this with the R1200GS !
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Bit late posting this, but the latest episodes of WD are now being broadcast on UK Discovery.
Sky 520
Virgin 250
BT TV 332
Amazon Video
Started on Monday 1st Jan @ 9pm, but no doubt it'll be repeated several times during the week before episode 2 is broadcast.
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>>UK Discovery on Amazon Video.
Cheers guv, I didn't know that.
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Just caught up with one of the episodes on Discovery. Ant is every bit as good as Ed China, probably better. What jars a little is Mike Brewer using the word "bucks" for dollars - I think you need to be American to do that...
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>> What jars a little is Mike Brewer using the word "bucks" for dollars
He's just trying to impress Velocity, or doing what they tell him to say.
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I sometimes watch on Quest but I find the frequent long ad breaks very irritating, particularly as they spend the first few minutes of the restart repeating what they've already shown us. My memory might not be what it was forty years ago, but it isn't that bad.
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I rather enjoy it with Ant, although the buying process is so clearly fake and any deal is done off screen, so really, does it need Brewer anymore? I am not sure it does.
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I know what you mean, but I think it both needs something to balance Ant and a beginning and end to the 'story'.
But they could certainly do it a whole lot better.
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Watched the WD episode with the Mercury Capri 2.8 V6 (not injected). 1st episode of the new (16th?) season.
It's the Capri we all know and love, but sold in the US with the big bumpers and a different engine.
I think Ant Anstead is working out well. I've certainly not noticed any deterioration since Edd China left. Though Mike Brewer is definitely getting rounder.
Not the best episode, but entertaining nonetheless.
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Us poor UK, Freeview viewers are waiting for the second half of the previous series, where Ed gets to crack a Messerschmitt dome.
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That's irritating. Which station is it on?
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>> Which station is it on?
Quest, IIRC.
On Sky, WD is repeated on numerous different channels over and over again. Almost as frequently as Top Gear is on Dave.
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Several of these had backed onto my recorder. Deleted them all apart from a lovely little Opel 1900GT from the late 60s. Never knew about that car. Loved it.
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Can't find the original thread, sorry. I did look.
Just a heads up; if you notice the Volvo 850T-5R episode. Do watch it, I found it really interesting [assuming you like the show in the first place, which I do].
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Watched an excellent (US) one the other afternoon. Ed China as the spanner-man. Mini MC40. Lovely little motor, as was the BMW2002tti one.
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Will seek it out. The Volvo one I mentioned is Ant Anstead, who I increasingly like. The slightly sad and obvious scripting doesn't help the show, but it is actually automotive interesting, rather than flash presenter interesting.
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>> Just a heads up; if you notice the Volvo 850T-5R episode.
I saw it on YouTube the other day (before someone took it down)
Among the comments was something like the T5 in the episode wasn't the model the police used. Something Ant (being an ex traffic bobby) apparently should have known.
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>>Among the comments was something like the T5 in the episode wasn't the model the police used.
Did he have anything to say about the spelling of batten as well?
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He didn't have time, else I'm sure he wood of.
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....don't be a plank, Dave....
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>> ....don't be a plank, Dave....
I'm logging that as a personal insult.
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>> I'm logging that as a personal insult.
I saw what he said, it was only a joke. Surely everyone twigged....
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>> ....don't be a plank, Dave....
Leaf it, he's not worth it.
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....au contraire. I suspect he's worth a great deal....
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>> Did he have anything to say about the spelling of batten as well?
No, he did knot.
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It goes against the grain to criticise someone's spieling.
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Only an idiut wood do that.
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Well Yew lot can Karri on without me
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Some of these puns really need sprucing up.
But I'm not going to pine over it.
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I am sycamore puns.
Please do not Kauri on
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Just watched episode 9, which seems to have been the "best of" of this season. I don't know if that means the season is finished.
Anyway, so far I've been enjoying it. Good, car oriented, entertainment.
However, the "best of" I just watched had additional scenes from various episodes that were not originally included. Kind of suggesting that 5 or 10 minutes longer would really improve the show, though perhaps not suit US schedules as well.
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Enjoying the episodes too, now that they're finally being broadcast through Kodi ##. Just watched the Alfa Romeo one. I thought the previous owner had "looked" after it? From the amount of work Ant had to do on it, that seemed not to be the case. All she looked after was the bodywork and interior. The oily bits were well overdue some attention.
## I will probably watch them again when they're eventually shown on Sky, before I get accused of freeloading, piracy, etc.
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I kind of like the relationship between Mike and Ant, I think I prefer it to Edd's days, though I'd be hard put to explain why.
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There was certainly a chemistry with Edd. Different one with Ant, it sort of works. I watch te occasional episode only though when there's a car that interests me.
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>> I watch the occasional episode only though when there's a car that interests me.
I must have watched every episode (apart from the current series which I am working my way through). I have watched several episodes many times over and over again.
There's only been a couple of episodes that currently spring to mind that I found quite dull. That was the Volvo P1800, and the Jensen Interceptor.
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I rather liked the Volvo one...didn't watch the Jensen ones. I watched loads of the others - the American series has less appeal to me. I loved that BMW 2002 one.I'd have loved that 2002 on my drive
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Wheeler Dealers - R.P.
