Motoring Discussion > Farage's dangerous Volvo. Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Old Navy Replies: 31

 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Old Navy
He must have really upset someone.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382294/Nigel-Farage-s-car-wheels-sabotaged-assassination-attempt-Ukip-leader-lost-control-Volvo-wheel-fell-motorway-police-confirm-foul-play.html
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - VxFan
>> He must have really upset someone.

"Police told Farage all the vehicle's wheels had been deliberately unscrewed - police confirm foul play"

Or someone simply took a shine to his wheels but got disturbed before they could finish nicking them.



 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Zero
I love the cartoon representation of the incident. I'm sure this will get blamed on Islamics, Immigrants or the EU.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 4 Jan 16 at 12:02
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Harleyman
Not the first time the wheels have fallen off his wagon.

On a more serious note; as Pat will confirm this is why wheelnut checks are an essential part of HGV drivers' daily routine.

So when was the last time any of you checked yours; and what are the telltale signs, apart from the obvious one of losing control of the vehicle?
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Fursty Ferret
>> So when was the last time any of you checked yours; and what are the
>> telltale signs, apart from the obvious one of losing control of the vehicle?
>>

The disturbance of six months worth of crud on the alloys would be the giveaway on mine.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Clk Sec
>> >> and what are the telltale signs

For me, many years ago:

1) Very loud rattle

2) Front N/S wheel travelling ahead of the car

Somewhat embarrassed at having to chase the wheel for 100 yards or so, but might have been a different story if I hadn't had hub caps for the wheel nuts to rattle around in.

The car had just been (non main dealer) serviced.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Harleyman
>> >> >> and what are the telltale signs
>>
>> For me, many years ago:
>>
>> 1) Very loud rattle
>>
>> 2) Front N/S wheel travelling ahead of the car
>>


By then, of course, it's too late; and you also have to consider what that wheel might've done if there was a motorcyclist or a small child within hitting distance. Even a car wheel, especially if travelling at speed, could do very serious damage. Lorry wheels have been known to kill.

The normal tell-tale is rust streaks radiating from the affected wheelnut; much easier to spot on lorries of course as by and large they don't have wheel trims. It's always well worth giving the wheelnuts a casual tweak once a month or so. You'll never over-tighten them by hand unless you use a seriously big bar; but you may well find the loose one before it's too late. Especially pertinent if you've recently had a tyre changed.
Last edited by: Harleyman on Mon 4 Jan 16 at 13:19
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - smokie
"...might've done if..."

Yeah but there wasn't. And there often isn't, when this phrase is used. And/or the chances that there were are often minuscule, and the effect if there had been would not necessarily have been that serious anyway.

This is one well-overused phrase is these days and often leads to increased cost for "additional safety measures" or some pleasurable but ever-so-slightly-dangerous activity being banned or over-regulated.

Where's our sense of adventure gone?
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Harleyman
>> "...might've done if..."
>>
>> Yeah but there wasn't. And there often isn't, when this phrase is used.

Whilst I share your irritation at the over-use of this phrase in non-risk situations, all I'm advocating is a simple precaution which is common sense and which drivers should be doing anyway. If it makes you feel better, I'll phrase it like this; check your wheelnuts or it might cost you money.

And whilst there often isn't as you say;

toronto.ctvnews.ca/flying-wheel-from-dump-truck-injures-pedestrian-1.2569726

She died later in hospital.
Last edited by: Harleyman on Mon 4 Jan 16 at 15:34
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Armel Coussine
No one has mentioned the damage a loose wheel can very quickly do to the wheel studs. The thread can be so damaged that the nut strips it and just turns freely.

Happened to me once. I seem to remember that replacing the studs was a big hassle. In the end I think I got a s/h hub from a breaker.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Harleyman
>> No one has mentioned the damage a loose wheel can very quickly do to the
>> wheel studs. The thread can be so damaged that the nut strips it and just
>> turns freely.
>>

Quite so AC. I can also guarantee than almost every day I'll see a car driving down the motorway or a main road with one of the plastic trims barely hanging on; or occasionally said trim flying off like a frisbee inot the hard shoulder or verge. Again, usually it just adds to the litter-pickers' job, but sooner or later one will cause an accident to another motorcyclist or car.

Usually caused by driver being too idle to check.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Pat
Harleyman talks a lot of sense...it can happen and does happen.

One Christmas Day evening a couple of years ago we were coming home from my sons between Lutterworth and Market Harborough and had just joined the A14 at Welford.

It was a dark and very wet night and as we got to the hilly bit we saw two lorries (Irish Plates) parked in the inside lane with hazard lights on.

Two Paddy's were running up and down the central reservation and the hard shoulder.

When we passed the the unit of one of them had completely lost a set of double wheels and that's what they were looking for.

It was funny at the time but the A14 was almost deserted and if it hadn't have been the results would have been far worse.

Pat
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - smokie
A few years back I joined the M4 from the A329M alongside a lorry wheel which was doing a good clip in the inside lane. I wasn't sure quite what to do, I thought if I tried to nudge it I'd probably get some damage to the motor, and also it would inevitably go the wrong way. So I followed it close up to "protect" it from other motorists (or vice versa). It did eventually roll off the motorway not far from the lorry it had come from, who was by now parked up on the hard shoulder. Quite some distance I recall.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Armel Coussine
A rolling truck or even car wheel is a heavy dangerous object, liable to bounce and change direction. They can kill your nyash if you are out of luck.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Bromptonaut
Or maybe there's a simple explanation:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/wheels-fall-off-farage-assassination-plot-story-recall-revelation
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - R.P.
Hahahaha....gone very quiet now hasn't he. He really is a twit.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - madf
>> Hahahaha....gone very quiet now hasn't he. He really is a twit.
>>

So resigning politician goes to failed assassination politician.

I assume he's going on the stage next as a comedian.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - WillDeBeest
Oh dear, oh dear. I had even got as far as typing out a 'tut tut, how could anyone be so reckless and irresponsible?' in defence of NF's right to drive on untampered-with wheels, then got interrupted and never sent it. Might need to reword it a bit now.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Haywain
"Or maybe there's a simple explanation: "

Typical of the rubbish I'd expect from the righteous Graun when later, Volvo claim that the car was not amongst those recalled.

I'm surprised people continue to read this tosh.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - WillDeBeest
Hmm. Poorly written article on the Guardian site now has Volvo saying that NF's registration precludes his car from belonging to the recalled group. The recall applied to cars built from May 2010, whereas NF's plate begins LV59, so was presumably issued before March 2010.

Still not conclusive, though:
  • NF may not have bought the car new. Wheels are easily - and relatively commonly - swapped from car to car, so NF may unintentionally have gained a set of the faulty bolts.

  • The full number (picture in the Ottawa Citizen that doesn't fuzz out the number) shows the full plate to feature NF's initials, at least in part. So he may have elected to transfer a 59 number onto his 10 car out of vanity, and the car could still be in the recall group.


I don't mean to treat this facetiously - the consequences could have been serious - but nor do I want NF dining out on 'They want to silence me, you know' stories if the truth is that he needs to maintain his car better.
Last edited by: WillDeBeest on Tue 5 Jan 16 at 18:10
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Dave_
>> So he may have elected to transfer a 59 number onto his 10 car out of vanity

Lima victor fifty nine november zulu foxtrot - date of first registration 13 November 2009
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - No FM2R
What a pile of old tosh.

Assassination attempt, my a***. For all I know it may well have been some oik trying to balls up his day, he does tend to attract iffy attention, but an assassination attempt? He needs to do a bit of serious getting over himself.

And as for the locking nut will sheer off at speed if the others are loose, what scientist told them that one? Presumably the centrifugal force, or the other one, would cause ti to fly off????

Even if the others are loose, and even if the locking wheel nut sheered off, there'd still be a whole bunch of noise, rattling and shaking across all 4 corners before a wheel came off.

He decided not to pursue it and only spoke about it when a newspaper forced him?? Wonder who told the newspaper then.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - smokie
I'm surprised that you all lap up newspaper reporting so seriously, and assume that it accurately represents what happened or was said.

As an eight year old I was approached at the Boys and Girls exhibition by a reporter and photographer from the Express. I was asked to get on a motorbike with some bloke I'd never heard of called Jeff Smith (tinyurl.com/zxp6xos) and they took some pics and spoke briefly to my older sister. Next day there was a pic of me and Jeff along with a quite wordy article which went on about my ambition to be a scrambling ace when I grow up, and loads of other stuff I'd never said. Never really trusted them since...

And anyway - who doesn't dine out on the odd good story?




 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Harleyman

>> Even if the others are loose, and even if the locking wheel nut sheered off,
>> there'd still be a whole bunch of noise, rattling and shaking across all 4 corners
>> before a wheel came off.
>>

You'd think there would be when a tyre runs flat, but it's surprising how many folk drive on blissfully unaware till it shreds itself.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Pat
www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/loose-lorry-wheel-could-killed-10701157

Pat
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - madf
"Nigel Farage has said he made a "terrible, terrible mistake" by speaking to journalists about a car accident in France, which was branded as an assassination attempt.
The Ukip leader told LBC radio he should have put the phone down instead of giving information to a reporter who asked about the crash.
The wheel came off Mr Farage's Volvo V70 while he was driving on a motorway, but French police and mechanics have since said there was no sign of foul play."

tinyurl.com/j62r249

Rearrange the following words: "man is a muppet"..
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - No FM2R
What an idiot.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - smokie
This post does not imply support or otherwise for the man, but how many other politicians of any party have ever publicly owned up to a mistake?
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - WillDeBeest
Plenty - once it's clear they have no choice.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Alanovich
Clegg.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Runfer D'Hills
A contrite idiot is still an idiot.
 Farage's dangerous Volvo. - Haywain
I first read it in the Mail 0nline, so took it with a pinch of salt; I'm surprised that so many read it as fact.
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