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That would be good - quid a gallon = 22p per litre :)
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Oppps Showing my age. I meant litre of course!
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They'll be giving the stuff away free soon with every packet of Daz sold - you mark my, um, words.
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When I first started driving petrol was about 75p...A gallon.
That's about 16.5p a litre
Blimey I must be old !
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Is there a site which gives the price of fuel at various times over the past 50/60 years?
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>> Is there a site which gives the price of fuel at various times over the
>> past 50/60 years?
Rather than us google it for you, how about a bout of self service.
Google "historical UK fuel prices"
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>>When I first started driving petrol was about 75p...A gallon.
When I first started driving petrol was 4s 8d a gallon = just over 5p per litre.
Road Tax was £12.50 IIRC
In Saudi Arabia in 1970
10 US gallons (say 40 litres) was 10 Riyals (10.6 approx to £1.00)
so approximately - so about 10p per gallon = 2.5 p per litre for premium (88 octane!!!)
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To answer my own question.
Not sure I believe the figures.
tinyurl.com/p2lsngz
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>> To answer my own question.
Glad to see you took my advice, happy to be of help.
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>> >> To answer my own question.
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>> Glad to see you took my advice, happy to be of help.
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Check the timings on the posts, dude.
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>> >> >> To answer my own question.
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>> >> Glad to see you took my advice, happy to be of help.
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>> Check the timings on the posts, dude.
Check the sarcasm level chum.
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I see oil is around the $35 mark overnight. So using Duncan's historic petrol price chart and the historic oil price chart here www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart, the petrol cost (pence per litre) in the same year as which oil has been at that price were
1989 40.9
1997 67.2
2003 81.1
I suppose there's many other factors, not least exchange rates and tax rates but it does seem to be slower coming down than it often feels going up.
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39ppg when I started driving, and I'm NOT old :)
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Three and a bit gallons for a quid for me. The Raleigh Runabout did about 100 mpg.
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I had one of them in Luton (hilly place). No suspension, bicycle front brake and no speedo (not required at the time).
No idea about MPG, it'd do two months to the gallon.
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I wonder if all those people who are sniffy about which supermarket is best will suddenly lose their principles and be in Morrys for their petrol.
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I quite like Morrisons, nothing to do with the quality of the petrol bit I like the "pay at the pump" system which allows for a quick getaway.
The local Shell station is at 101.9 this morning
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I use Sainsburys fuel mostly. Nectar points y'see, and at my 35-40 thousand miles a year they add up nicely. Must check those come to think, we normally get something reasonably substantial with them at Christmas.
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Did you get an email with a 10x Nectar points offer at Sainsburys (inc. fuel) this weekend Runfer? If not, might be worth checking your online account.
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e normally get something reasonably substantial
Boxset of door mirrors ?
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You're not allowed to swear on here, so I'm just going to have to ask you use your imagination...
;-)
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3s 6d a gallon or less, if I really think back.
The first 'oil shock' in the seventies was mismanaged by the oil companies and govt here, and there was a petrol and diesel shortage, with long queues of miserable London motorists waiting sometimes overnight outside London garages.
Black cabs had their own arrangements which seemed to work as usual. And (bear with me) so did we minicabbists: by quickly forming corrupt relations with the forecourt people - mostly women - and paying extra for our juice. That enabled us to bypass the queues just like black cabs and buy as much petrol as we wanted, not be rationed like less privileged ordinary punters. Naughty I suppose, but jolly handy of course. Can't say I felt very guilty about it.
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What a lot of young people there are on these fora-I can remember filling my 25 gallon tank at 1/10d(old money) a gallon.
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I filled up for 99.9p per litre at Morrisons in Haverfordwest a couple of hours ago. Fifteen miles down the road in St Davids it was 107.9.
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Still 111.9 for Shell diesel around Heathrow today. Don't need any just yet, so I can wait for it to come down.
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>> What a lot of young people there are on these fora-I can remember filling my 25 gallon tank at 1/10d(old money) a gallon.
I'm quite old really and can remember as a small child prices in the 1/6d region. But 3/6 is about what we paid in my early days of motoring.
Of course I also remember black market petrol, Americans lavishing nylons on my glamorous aunt (not to much avail I like to think), stuff like that. Billy Hobbs whose mother was 'fast' so got rides in jeeps and packets of gum from glamorous gringos whose military uniforms were a lot better than ours.
I envied Billy although he wasn't a bright boy, and didn't understand all the sidelong looks from our mothers about his mother. She was smiling and blonde, what was to dislike?
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It was under a pound at Asda two weeks ago.(99.7)
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>> I'm quite old really and can remember as a small child prices in the 1/6d
>> region.
You must have been very precocious. I certainly wasn't aware of the price of anything apart from sweets as a child.
I can remember buying 1d chews, but petrol wasn't really my thing.
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Always took an interest in jalopies.
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I can remember my father asking for "4 shots and 4" for his Wolseley 6/110 and for the man to put it on his account. I think the 'shots' were some kind of valve lubricant.
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Redex upper cylinder lubricant... Some garages still have a Redex pump don't they?
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Dunno to be honest. All that engine protection was to no avail anyway. He had it from new and when he sold it at 5 years old the bodywork was entirely rotten. Engine was sweet though...
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>> Redex upper cylinder lubricant... Some garages still have a Redex pump don't they?
I wouldn't put it anything with a cat.
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>> I wouldn't put it anything with a cat.
Neither would I. Indeed the handbook advises against it.
Catalytic converters are horrid things though, restrictive, expensive and fragile. Much better to chuck them out and have a straight-through exhaust with an expansion box or two to keep the racket down. Horrid horrid things imposed by dumb biens-pensants, clean schmean... all they do is cost money and waste fuel.
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>> Redex upper cylinder lubricant... Some garages still have a Redex pump don't they?
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Don't know about Redex but most UCL was a mixture of engine oil and paraffin-always put a lot of shots in-it was free in many garages and it burnt.
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Yes, that was Redex, it stood by the pump in a squirty bottle and had to be cleaned every morning.....I remember it well:)
Pat
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>> What a lot of young people there are on these fora-I can remember filling my
>> 25 gallon tank at 1/10d(old money) a gallon.
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That is the equivalent of 41.67p per gallon which if the AA chart is correct means you were driving in 1951.
Respect
Are you still driving?
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I started driving in !957-the price of fuel actually fell in the late 50's/early 60's.The 25 gallon tank was on an Allard(that was early 60's).
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>> I started driving in !957-the price of fuel actually fell in the late 50's/early 60's.The
>> 25 gallon tank was on an Allard(that was early 60's).
>
I might have owned an Allard but I went to work on a LD125 scooter.>
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>> I might have owned an Allard but I went to work on a LD125 scooter.>
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Ah a lambo! First motorised transport I every piloted.
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Vespa 125 for me.
We you a bit of a mod? Tiger tails and a parka, Lots of lights and a Union Jack?
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>> Vespa 125 for me.
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>> We you a bit of a mod? Tiger tails and a parka, Lots of lights
>> and a Union Jack?
No, as I was driving illegally* one needed to be a bit circumspect.
Too young for a license, no insurance. It was taxed and had mot tho. And yes a parka.
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>> scooter.>
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>> Ah a lambo! First motorised transport I every piloted.
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My LD125 replaced a Harley-Davidson and sidecar on "L" plates(insurance was £3-12-6d.) but I did pass my m/c test on the LD-I already had my car licence at that time.Didn't take my HGV 1 till I was in my thirties.
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1957?
Jeez you are quite old !
I was born in '58 and I'm feeling slightly careworn.
;-)
Good for you, I sincerely hope you currently run a 911 or similar? That's my later life ambition anyway !
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>> 1957?
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>> Jeez you are quite old !
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>> I was born in '58 and I'm feeling slightly careworn.
I was born in 54. Amazing how much 4 years makes to getting a good pension...........
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First drove from very early fifties off road under supervision, eagerly from about 1955, legally from 1967 or 8, started having cars in late 60s early 70s, right little hooligan and idiot too.
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OK CG, here's one for you then!
I can remember working on the forecourt at Sunnybrae Motor Company at Houghton On The Hill in Leicestershire when it was 49p a gallon and there was petrol rationing.
I can't remember if that was old money or new money though or what the year was......but I'm thinking around 1971?
Pat
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>> when it was 49p a gallon and there was petrol rationing.
>> around 1971?
Yes Pat, see my minicabbist post above posted 15.57!
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I recognised the tactics Lud, one of our customers was Gary Linneker who played for Leicester City then and another one called something Pete? Waller, I think.
I know I used to have to put the fuel in and check the oil, water and tyres for them on a very regular basis while they sat in the warm in the car!
Pat
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>> I can't remember if that was old money or new money though or what the
>> year was......but I'm thinking around 1971?
the 1973 fuel crisis, ration books issued but never used. Mostly because high pricing did the job
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I think probably a bit later. According to the AA chart price din't hit 49 p per gallon until 1974. I don't think formal rationing was ever impose but most garages limited how much you could buy.
They did issue ration books in 1973 although they were never used.
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Morrisons I OK, but they don't do super unleaded, so I only use it in emergencies.
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Shell Drivers card gave me £3 so I bought Super VPower Nitro and the Jazz took off doing 0-60mph in 2.6 seconds and 125 mpg - as measured by a VW engineer.
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Gasoil was €0.824 litre at the nearest BP yesterday in Tenneriffy.
A pint of San Miguel €.95 on the prom at Los Cris. Rising to €1.00 after 18:00 hours.
I'm too lazy to do the sums, and late for my pre brekkie swim, but anyone care to tell me how they compare pro rata?
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Cheap enough to not worry about, especially the beer!
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>> They did issue ration books in 1973 although they were never used.
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I've still got mine somewhere. I got a slightly higher ration having a 14 hp rated vehicle.
They were left overs from the 1956 Suez crisis rationing, which may even have been in turn left over from the war.
I do remember the 1956 rationing, because I was then living on a farm with ny uncle and aunt, and my uncle got a higher petrol ration, and I think unlimited diesel.
It was supposed to be strictly for farming purposes, but he loved breaking regulations and stretching a point or three.
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>> It was supposed to be strictly for farming purposes, but he loved breaking regulations and
>> stretching a point or three.
Typical farmer then.
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I guess Esso don't price match anymore, which explains why Tesco in Abingdon is 8p cheaper for petrol than the Esso garage is. They are literally a stones throw from each other.
I wonder how many people are gutted to have filled up at Esso, then drive round into Tesco to do their shopping and see it's 8p a litre cheaper? IIRC diesel is 5 or 6p a litre cheaper too.
And none of this silly argument that Esso fuel is far superior than Tesco's. I've seen a Tesco fuel tanker many a time filling up the Essso tanks on that site.
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>> And none of this silly argument that Esso fuel is far superior than Tesco's. I've
>> seen a Tesco fuel tanker many a time filling up the Essso tanks on that
>> site.
they are both crap
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The fuel or Tescos? I'm probably wrong doing it, but I normally fill up with Shell where possible, normally their V Power unleaded. I drive so few miles that I cannot remember what I put in last fill up, so there is a chance it's mainly V Power I use.
It is always more pricey than supermarket fuels, but I don't really care for the reason stated above. I might save the cost of a pint by filling up at Sainsburys, but I have this stupid notion that apart from the higher octane rating, it's better for my old ( ish) car. Of course, I could be completely wrong, and wasting money, but until someone gives me conclusive evidence then I shall continue to do it. Just one of my many peccadillos !
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>> The fuel or Tescos?
Esso and Tesco fuel. Well not crap exactly, it just petrol. Shell does however does make the car feel smoother, slightly better pickup,
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I heard recently that these super petrols contain no ethanol. It's becoming a major problem in old vehicles as it eats natural rubber and has now been found to dissolve old solder (think brass carburettor floats). It also contains more water than petrol, so that as the distillates evaporate, water's left behind to attack the steel in petrol tanks.
If you don't do many miles, you could be doing yourself a favour buying the expensive stuff.
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>> attack the steel in petrol tanks
I thought, most if not all were plastic these days?
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>> >> attack the steel in petrol tanks
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>> I thought, most if not all were plastic these days?
he said old cars, hence "solder in floats" and "carburettors"
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>> I thought, most if not all were plastic these days?
I think they are but BT's point related to older cars - hence mention of brass carb floats etc.
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Yes, sorry, I was just thinking about older vehicles, although even with plastic tanks a build up of water isn't something you'd want.
Old petrol tanks, particularly motorcycles, used to have a coating on the inside. Ethanol's been found to break that up too, resulting in bits of material clogging fuel filters and blocking jets.
Piston engined aircraft fuel (91 octane unleaded and 100 octane low lead) is ethanol free. I suppose motorists have to put up with the muck as cars don't fall out of the sky with a fuel problem.
Marvellous what you find out in a day at Beaulieu.
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Petrol has dropped to 52p/l over here albeit for the 91RON Aussies seem to think is acceptable, petrol snobs like me are paying 57p/l for 95RON.
I have actually compared my Outback brim to brim on 91RON and 95RON and the additional mileage from a tank almost exactly matches the price difference. It seems smoother and torquier but that's probably just psychological. So I run it on 95RON and visit the petrol station slightly less often although when away from cities only 91RON and 98RON are stocked by many servos.
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I think its about 60p here at the moment for 97RON so about 55p for 95RON.
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Today in Tenerife, BP unleaded €.919, Super unleaded €1.09/ litre
San Miguel & Amstel still €.95 pint on the prom
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>> San Miguel & Amstel still €.95 pint on the prom
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Not miss the odd pint of dos equis or sierra nevada? I've been sinking a few last couple of nights. Prefer the stout version of SN, can't get on with the ipa far too citrusy.
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>> San Miguel & Amstel still €.95 pint on the prom
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...do you find you run better on San Miguel, or on Amstel?
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How much is diesel per litre in Oz, I_C?
My sister is on a plane to Oz as I type, well she's about to land at Bangkok for a stopover. She's going there for 4 years and is taking a Volvo XC70 D5 on the plane with her. Also bought an old Subaru Forester (petrol, natch) as their second car which is waiting for them on arrival. When I go to visit in the next few years I'll get a lend of the Forester, can't wait. Never been to Oz.
She's on Malaysian. Gulp.
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Diesel has remained constant over the past few weeks/months at about $AU1.20/l which is 57p/l. It's rarely less than petrol but then again not much more either.
Interesting she's taking the Volvo with her, there are strict importation rules with duty and taxes which make importation a hassle. Volvo are a premium brand (with luxury car tax) so the saving may well be worthwhile, I expect she'll have done her sums, IIRC owning the car for more than 12 months prior to importation helps.
One comment, if she has a tow bar it might not be type-approved, A/NZ have their own standards (which are similar to the US) and swan-neck retractable tow bars aren't fitted here.
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She's going on a Government job, I think there are exemptions for Government folks (natch) and will probably have to get some funny kind of number plate for the car.
All expenses paid, like.
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>> She's going on a Government job, I think there are exemptions for Government folks (natch)
>> and will probably have to get some funny kind of number plate for the car.
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>> All expenses paid, like.
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I see, ACT ? If she can avoid the duty somehow that makes a lot more sense. Fuel is a little more expensive in ACT though not enough to complain about. It gets really cold there in winter too - frost and snow and all that, brrrrr.
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What's ACT? Canberra? If so, yes.
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>> What's ACT? Canberra? If so, yes.
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Sorry, yes - always reminds me of Milton Keynes to be honest. Very insular but (I am told) a nice place to live. It's in a tiny territory (don't ask me the difference between a territory and a state) called the Australian Capital Territory or ACT for short.
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Oooo, Milton Keynes. I expect it's a bit warmer, though.
I'm now collecting Avios like mad, and expect to make a life changing saving of about £26 off one of the 4 return tickets I'll need to take the family there in 2017 or 18. No expenses paid for me, as usual.
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>> Sorry, yes - always reminds me of Milton Keynes to be honest.
My last Civil Service boss reckoned there was a template for new/federal capitals - he'd been to Ankara and a couple of others.
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>> >> Sorry, yes - always reminds me of Milton Keynes to be honest.
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>> My last Civil Service boss reckoned there was a template for new/federal capitals - he'd
>> been to Ankara and a couple of others.
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I've a couple of friends and colleagues who live in Canberra, they all love it, you can cycle to work, there's lots of cultural activity and it's all very logically laid out, the ACT government is more progressive than others too. Reputedly a great place to bring up children, but it is very insular and a tad synthetic IMHO.
It's actually at quite a high altitude and is warm in the summer and (for Australia) cold in the winter with regular overnight frosts.
You'll pay slightly more for petrol/diesel too (to correct thread drift).....
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Filled up this afternoon. 56.13 litres for £36.48 rounded up call it 65p/litre.
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Latest local prices are 99p petrol 105.9 diesel. Suggests that in places where the local market is more competitive diesel too will be close to £1.
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Still £1.069 at Rowland's Castle this evening. 54 litres, ON; light had just come on.
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Filled (diesel) up Friday. Still £1.11 here at BP but a mere £1.10 at Tesco.
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Crude prices are still on the way down... no rush to fill her up here...
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>> Still £1.069 at Rowland's Castle this evening. 54 litres, ON; light had just come on.
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Prices vary wildly in W Sussex, and into Hampshire, IME. It's £0.999/litre at Tesco, but as I'm 11 days away from 2 years of not spending a £1 in their stores I wont be going there ;) My local Esso is at £1.029, and Shell £1.069. These are all within 3 miles of each other. I think the BP/M&S on the A27 was at £1.089 yesterday...
But since Shell take Apple pay, and give airmiles (OK, they're Avios now...) that are effectively trippled by using AMEX via paypal, and they have a man that'll actually fill the car while I sit inside, and it's the one I pass most frequently, I'll continue going there...
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Interesting, Peter. Is it the RC Shell you use? Nobody offered to fill mine today.
Incidentally, iOS suggested the apostrophe in the placename and I accepted it, but I've no idea whether it's correct. For that matter, near me we have, according to their street signs, St Andrews Road and St Mark's Road, so work that out!
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No I generally use Shell at Fontwell, further east than you were. I *think* the attended service is only between 10 and 4 a the weekend.
I had no idea either, but their website indicates not on the apostrophe front...
www.rowlandscastle.com/
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>> Prices vary wildly in W Sussex, and into Hampshire, IME. It's £0.999/litre at Tesco, but
>> as I'm 11 days away from 2 years of not spending a £1 in their
>> stores I wont be going there ;)
Is there any particular reason for not spending in Tesco?
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Quite simply I got fed up of their appalling customer service, so made a new year's resolution almost two years ago not to give them any of my money :)
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Funny how experiences vary. We've been very impressed by the service from Tesco, both here and in our previous, Warwickshire life.
Esso's where I won't go: token protest against the lingering effects of the Bush years.
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In Swindon last night. Prices vary quite considerably - up to 10p per litre difference between some garages.
n.b. Diesel prices:
Tesco, 102.9
Sainsbury's 103.9
Esso 112.9
Another Esso 110.9
Another Esso 106.9
Texaco 107.9
All garages within a couple of miles of one another.
Petrol prices were a similar split too.
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That's quite a survey, VF. Did you buy a little from each to spread the risk? And was there time for anything else while you were in Swindon?
};---)
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In our town,we have a Tesco and an ESSO next door to each other-funny but their prices are always identical!
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>> In our town,we have a Tesco and an ESSO next door to each other-funny but
>> their prices are always identical!
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I always think it's weird in the US where even with gas around $2/ gall (US) you get garages across the road from each other with 30c price difference.
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>> I always think it's weird in the US where even with gas around $2/ gall
>> (US) you get garages across the road from each other with 30c price difference.
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Its so cheap i don't think they worry too much about it. Saw it down to $1.79 a gallon the other day.
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>> That's quite a survey, VF.
Not really that difficult to do. On the A420 into Swindon, pass one Esso garage, just before Sainsbury's at Stratton, pass a Texaco garage on Fleming Way while heading into the town. Pass another Esso on the Rodbourne Road while nipping around to my cousin's house. Pass another Esso garage on Kingshill Rd while nipping around to my Uncle's house. Then finally heading to Tesco (Ocotal Way) to do some shopping before heading home.
Also having a photographic memory for numbers helps too.
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From the article:
“I was going to put a fiver in, but at that price I’ll put a bit more in,†said the 52-year-old mechanic.
LOL!
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Never understood the mentality of only putting a few quids worth in but visiting every few days. Always brim both our cars if we are in the petrol station
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Same here...I always fill them both to the top and again when the gauges are down to about a quarter full....or, in the case of the Note, when I'm told to !
I did let the Suzuki get nearly into the red last week for some reason but soon brimmed it up. It was £55 (derv) at 106p at Morrisons. They're the nearest and I can't be arased driving around to save under a quid at one of the other locals.
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>> Never understood the mentality of only putting a few quids worth in but visiting every few days. Always brim both our cars if we are in the petrol station >>
Yet some say that you waste money by transporting all that extra weight. You just can't win.
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>> Never understood the mentality of only putting a few quids worth in
Depends how much the car is worth. Putting a fiver in might double the price of it.
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Seems silly to put in very small amounts, unless there's an immediate cash problem... those are often more imaginary than real.
One doesn't want to be stranded, but it's easy to be obsessively over-cautious.
When I feel flush I brim it, but that's not every day.
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Never understood the mentality of only putting a few quids worth in ... Always brim...
From what you've said about the Lexus, Mikey, doesn't that amount to much the same thing?
};---)
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I used to work with a guy who kept his car near empty - he said it was so thieves wouldn't get very far if they stole it!
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I used to live a long way from any petrol station in a rural hamlet and got into the habit of filling up whenever the gauge showed a 1/4 of a tank. Still do it now even though it's not so necessary.
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I fill it up on pay day, even if it is 3/4 full. Otherwise, refill when the warning light comes on - there is usually 60 miles range at that point.
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You're an accountant though aren't you? As in spend it anyway, if it's budgeted for, whether you need it or not but woe betide anyone who spends when it's not in the budget even if it's needed now right?
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We always fill up when it gets under a quarter of a tank but cut it a bit fine this morning.
The V70 was showing an average of 52.7mpg when I left home and I managed to get it down to 47.8 by the time we got to Cornwall but at least we did it in record time:)...and pretty much beat the bad weather and traffic too!
Pat
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>> The V70 was showing an average of 52.7mpg when I left home and I managed
>> to get it down to 47.8 by the time we got to Cornwall
Enjoy your break Pat. Would prefer my 'van to mayhem of family tomorrow, three days break then other family...
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Just put the Christmas Tree (2' high) up and the fairy light all around it now all we have to do is stick the 'Please Santa Stop Here' sign outside and make cheese on toast for Dinner with a nice bottle of brouilly!
W de B and Mapmaker you really don't know what your missing!
It's toasty in here and the view is wonderful.
Pat
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Diesel under £1 a litre at this garage owner's pumps:
tinyurl.com/z4bxg3h
As for petrol prices over the years....
www.theaa.com/public_affairs/reports/Petrol_Prices_1896_todate_gallons.pdf
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>> Diesel under £1 a litre at this garage owner's pumps:
Everton striker Romelu Lukaku?
Or is it the same garage owner that I mentioned a few posts up?
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>>Everton striker Romelu Lukaku?>>
Ooops, apologies. Was sending a fellow Toffees fan friend some links about happenings at the club on MailOnline, plus looking through one or two other websites, and not cleared the Windows clipboard properly....:-(
This was the link I was intending to post (and as you say it is, in fact, about the same garage owner!):
www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-3370373/Three-Midlands-filling-stations-offer-diesel-1-litre.html
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Supermarkets have now dropped the price of diesel to less than a quid a litre.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35217383
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Unless usual process has been suspended it's either not below £1 everywhere or some way below in some places.
Consistently 3-4p/litre cheaper at Sainsbury Fosse Park (Leicester) than in Northampton.
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Diesel is 99.9p at the supermarkets here, but I have seen 105.7 today. No doubt it will go up the second the oil price gives a twitch upwards.
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Oil up over 3% today, partly due to the Saudi/Iran issue. Brent is traditionally costlier than the US stuff but they are running neck and neck for the past few weeks.
Many of the pundits I'm reading aren't expecting it to be back to anywhere near previous levels for the foreseeable though.
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Sigh. Put some in today, not at the supermarket. Tank was very low and I was not sure I had enough to get into town and out again to Tesco tonight through two sets of sitting about in gridlock, so had to call in at Cambridge BP. So I paid £1.10 a litre this morning.
I'm sure it's better stuff though, as it will have Magic BP Elixir in it and my car will go 50% faster and run 50% smoother and travel 50% further on a tank. No doubt.
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Gave the car its weekly top up this morning, petrol 99.9, diesel 99.7, diesel cheaper but only just.
Still over four quid a gallon. :-(
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Petrol and diesel both 99.9 locally.
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One garage in the county has put his diesel down to 96.9 p/l.
tinyurl.com/glrwdg8 - Oxford Mail.
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I've seen one at last! A Middlesex Asda at 99.7p for diesel. Still in the 105-108p range everywhere else.
What's a gallon, Grandpa?
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Steadfastly staying at 103-106p around here, but I haven't been past a supermarket forecourt recently. I only use Shell in any case and use their nitro gubbins fuel to lubricate my injector pump properly (they have a tendency of failing on my SAAB and cost 2k to fix), also Avios points you see.
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>> Steadfastly staying at 103-106p around here, but I haven't been past a supermarket forecourt recently.
99.7p for both at Asda Lower Earley if you fancy a trip to the Dark Side. Although probably similarly cheap at Tesco in town.
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Used to go past every day Shinfield-TVP, but now working in Amazingstoke so no supermarkets en route Cav Heights-Shinfield-Basingrad via Spencers Wood/Hook. Sticking with Shell nitro anyway on the off chance that it'll make a difference to the car's injector pump. Heavily leaning towards keeping the car and sorting the gearbox at the moment, although the box is refusing to die and functions fine on the flat.
The missus usually fills the Mazda with unleaded, and she just waits till the light comes on, waits a bit more, waits a bit more, waits for the needle to drop below empty, panics and fills up in whatever the nearest station happens to be.
EDIT: forgot a vital step in the female fill-up procedure - arrive on forecourt and call me on the mobile to remind her how to open the fuel filler flap. Staggeringly has never managed to misfuel, so now I've said that it'll happen next time I expect.
Last edited by: Alanović on Thu 7 Jan 16 at 11:14
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>> What's a gallon, Grandpa?
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Liquid feet and inches, cheeky brat.
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>> What's a gallon, Grandpa?
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The same as 8 pints, child
Or 32 Gills, if you prefer
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Oil took another tumble yesterday down to 32.99 it was 34.74 before.
Heating oil is down to $1/USGal so expect further reductions on diesel to become a few pence cheaper than petrol.
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Size of a gallon depends on whether you are in UK or USA.
1 UK gallon is approx 1.2 US gallons....
I filled up with unleaded at 99.9p on Tuesday...£37 ....at Sainsburys. They are owned by Qatar where the fuel will cost you around 12p a litre. I used to fill up my Honda Legend there for £3.50.....
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>> Size of a gallon depends on whether you are in UK or USA.
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>> 1 UK gallon is approx 1.2 US gallons....
Kind of important when you are fuelling a helicopter or other aircraft I guess :-)
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Aren't aircraft usually fuelled by weight, not volume?
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IIRC its supplied by volume but converted to weight for load/balance calculations. One of the holes in the cheese that lined up to allow the 'Gimli Glider' 767 fuel starvation accident was a miscalculation of litres to kilogrammes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
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>> ..at Sainsburys. They are owned by
>> Qatar ...
Thanks for the heads up - that's another shop crossed off my list.
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>> >> ..at Sainsburys. They are owned by
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>> Thanks for the heads up - that's another shop crossed off my list.
Got a private pension? you best give that up as well.
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>> >> ..at Sainsburys. They are owned by
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>> Thanks for the heads up - that's another shop crossed off my list.
Qatari wealth fund is largest single shareholder but only to extent of around a quarter of whole value of business.
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>>I filled up with unleaded at 99.9p on Tuesday...£37 ....at Sainsburys. They are owned by Qatar
Qatar own 26% of Sainsbury's.
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Just filled the Roomie with diesel at Tesco, 99.7p/litre. Petrol is 99.9.
Third time I've brimmed it and according to fuel app on my phone it's averaging 47.78mpg. Pretty good I think for mostly commuting but with longer runs to LHR and Liverpool.
Pretty sure I could get it over 50 if I learned to feather my right foot a little.
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We went to Sheffield today. (Meadowhell!)
Looking at the fuel prices, most seem to be around 102p to 103p, plus the obligatory 99p, per litre for unleaded.
Our local Sainsbury's in Worksop is 99.9p per litre for unleaded, so a bigger market does not necessarily lead to better prices.
A week or so ago, we filled up at a Tesco site adjacent to the A14, just outside Needham Market, for 99.9p a litre, on which we are still running.
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Looking at it from another angle, I would prefer fuel prices to double. That would probably make a huge difference to the price of certain equities i hold. And to the values of many thousands of private pensions. Fortunately my private pension pot is pretty small, but I expect others with maybe six figure pots have taken a bit of a hammering these past few months.
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Pretty sure I could get it over 50 if I learned to feather my right foot a little.
It's the shoes, Bromp. You'll never be feather-footed in Polyveldts.
};---)
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I imagine Bromp in Clarks Cornish Pasties. I bet he had some. 'Nature Trek' I think they were called. Are they still made? I had a pair, but I never really took to them.
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Hush Puppies would be my guess
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And there was me thinking sandals (and a beard...) :-)
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Manatee, your'e actually quite right.
I must have found comfortable leisure shoes a problem in my late teens 'cos I was taken by the advertising for Nature Trek. Bought a pair from Schofield's in Leeds and you know what? they did what it said on the box. Took some ragging from flatmates over my 'pasties' but I could at least walk a few miles in them.
Not sure what the nature trek>polyveldt lineage was but Mrs B had a pair too when we first met. Became a shared joke and the word 'Polytreks' is still in our collective vocabulary.
IIRC there were city trek too with a more conventional upper and which led on to the 'Air Wear' concept today.
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Liverpool and back yesterday in the Roomie sorting stuff for t'Lad. Since Northampton has long seemed to be pricy fuel central amongst conurbations and I'd got 300 miles still in tank when we left a bit of surveying seemed worthwhile.
Conclusion is pricing seems all over the place. The supermarkets all seem to have petrol and diesel at around 99.9 with diesel occasionally 0.2p cheaper ie 99.7p/litre. At filling stations though many prices still well over £1. No consistency whatever as to whether petrol cheaper than diesel or vv. Gaps as wide as 3-4p either way.
Eventually filled up at Fosse Park but price there at 99p/litre for both fuels same as Northampton - for all of last 8yrs it's been 2-4p/litre cheaper.
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Local ASDA, petrol 99.xx, diesel 97.xx.
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Asda have a national pricing policy. I think Morrisons do as well
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Just passed by our local Dr Morrisons institute for the undead. 97.99 I think it said for diesel and I want to remember it was 99.99 for lawn mower juice.
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>> Asda have a national pricing policy. I think Morrisons do as well
Asda do, but I don't think Morrisons have followed.
Word on round locally is that absence of an Asda filling station in Northampton is reason we're usually paying that 2-3p litre more than in Leicester.
Morrisons arrived here in mid nineties on site of cattle market and subsequently took over Safeway megastore. Matched Tescoburys but never equalled their prices in Yorkshire where Asda was the benchmark.
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Yes petrol is getting cheaper but l paid £3.69 for a small bag of wine gums at the Vue cinema yesterday.
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£3.69? Your sucking kidding me.
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I ate a whole bag of wine gums tonight while navigating the joys of the M5 and M6 on a Friday. No idea what they cost, my wife gave them to me this morning, but they were very good. I'm partial to a wine gum. You can make sort of cocktails with them too if you eat them in pairs or even combinations of three.
Felt quite hedonistic at times.
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My closest Shell has been 99.9p for both for quite a few days now. Surprising really as there is no supermarket competition for maybe 10 miles. There is another Shell about 2 miles away which is at the same prices as all the other garages round here - 103.9 for petrol , dunno about diesel
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>> £3.69? Your sucking kidding me.
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I usually pay £2 a box in Sainsburys.
Wingums are a must have in my glove compartment ( but they seem to somehow reduce their numbers in the dark)
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Sherbert lemons in our glove box all the time.
It used to be Werthers but they've got so small and tasteless now.
Pat
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>> Yes petrol is getting cheaper but l paid £3.69 for a small bag of wine
>> gums at the Vue cinema yesterday.
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Tried Tesco?
www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=272493080
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>> Tried Tesco?
Their own brand wine gums are much nicer, and you can almost get 2 bags for the price of one bag of Maynards at the moment. And they're bigger bags too.
www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=256582494
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I bought a 5l can of blue water from the BP garage outside Baldock on Friday evening. £6.50. More expensive than petrol.
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Filled,up on A23 Tesco yesterday at 97.9 for,diesel .....
Has anyone noticed the reduction coincides with,the development by a***nals Flammini and his partner, who have developed an LA product that might replace,the,need for oil.....are the Middle East countries worried.....hopefully
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94.9 for diesel at costco now- shame they've only got 3 stations!
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That's cheap the two local ones are 103.9 and 104.9 for diesel. Not seen it below a pound yet. Petrol is 99.9 at one place about 15 miles away but obviously too far just to fill up.
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Petrol at my local Tesco is 99.9p/l and diesel 97.9.l.
In the past I used the pence per mile figure into account on car change. I didn't last time. How long will diesel by close to petrol prices?
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Fuel is often quoted as x% tax - but everything else is tax added (eg VAT is 20%). If you take tax added to fuel at the current prices, it is close to 400%.....!!
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Looks like fuel prices are about to increase again as wholesale costs rise, a report warns.
news.sky.com/story/1634767/petrol-price-fall-may-have-bottomed-out
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I do think they are making it up a bit. The price of US crude has been bobbing between about $28 and $34 for some weeks now. www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=1m
Today is up a bit but yesterday it was down. As I understand it, market fluctuations don't necessarily follow the crude price that quickly, because of forward buying etc by the oilcos. And certainly the pump price doesn't vary as much as the crude price.
There are still analysts out there who think oil could go below $20 this year... just a week or so ago when the sanctions on Iran were lifted people were predicting an even worse over-supply than there currently is.
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Here's some current (US) data
ir.eia.gov/wpsr/wpsrsummary.pdf
which includes the line "U.S. crude oil inventories remain near levels not seen for this time of year in at least the last 80 years"
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under a quid a gallon - Focusless
