Reversed into the side of a woman's little car in Tesco car park a while back making a big dent behind the door just ahead of the rear wheel arch. Gonna be an insurance job of course unless I win the lottery.
Quite a hard-bitten number she was, with her friend sitting in the passenger seat. Of course she didn't get nasty because I was very apologetic, since it was more my fault than hers (although I think had I been her I would have stopped).
Oh ****, and ***** too.
I didn't 'admit liability', but I'm certainly liable. Ghastly thing to happen. **** **** ****.
God I need a drink.
sorry Lud, had to edit your post. There's getting far too much profanity on here of late, and yours was way OTT
Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 4 Dec 15 at 16:44
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Minor shunts are a pain, but remember, cars are just metal and plastic and hurt pride usually heals. It's the major accidents that I worry about, which considering the number of kids around my way that dart across roads at night wearing black jeans and hoodies I am just grateful that I haven't hurt one yet!
Last edited by: VxFan on Fri 4 Dec 15 at 16:41
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Easilly done of course = bin there / T shirt in bedroom drawer. At least mine was done in a Sainsbury's car park don't cha know. Nine Elms actually, wherever that is ;) AND I put my paws up straight away!
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I've been censored, but in quite a kind understanding way. Thank you Vx... and sorry for the profanity.
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Bad luck, AC. Will it be a punishment Micra for you too? Do let us know what you think.
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There's nothing worse than doing something when you're driving and not being able to blame anyone else for it.
I've been there and I bet we all have.
Don't beat yourself up too much though, just call her a 'stupid woman driver' :)
Pat
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Thank you Pat. She wasn't too stupid really though. It was 80 or 90 per cent my fault. What they call 'one of those things'.
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I do hope no one is cruel enough to start a thread about re-tests for elderly drivers ;-)
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" 'stupid woman driver' "
Think I was tempted to say that when I removed the driver's door, front wing and front bumper of a lady's Ford KA with my truck and trailer.
Unfortunately, car was parked outside her house and she was sitting inside watching TV.
Think it might have been my fault!! Stupid male driver!! "not being able to blame anyone else for it."
But, as others say - only a bit of metal, no injuries except to my bank balance!
Cough up, pay up.
Last edited by: PhilW on Fri 4 Dec 15 at 19:16
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Tangential thought only.
We live in a society where it's perfectly acceptable to view images of and indeed openly discuss murder, war and violence of the most sordid kind. Where publicly expressing views on the most unpleasant acts of human cruelty is openly in the public domain, and maybe rightly so. Where we allow children to play video games representing extreme violence, where many drama productions centre around the subjects of murder, rape, infidelity and so on.
But heaven forbid someone types a rude word on an Internet forum. That's beyond the pale.
I'm not for one moment advocating any different policy, but I do tend to ponder occasionally on how our society has arrived at a point where certain random made up words are more offensive to it than images and representations of the very worst kinds of atrocity.
As you were. Just musing, not arguing.
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Talking of random made up words and expressions, I thought of a phrase a few years ago whilst contemplating the meaning of life on a backpacking trip. I use the phrase if I disagree with someone, and take great amusement in their reaction.
' go stick your head up a dead bear's bum'.
It still makes me smile.
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>> ' go stick your head up a dead bear's bum'.
>> It still makes me smile.
Me too! It contains both rhyme and alliteration.
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We should have a competitition for the best poem or song including that line. It could even be the chorus.
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Mrs B had a parking incident a few months back. Stopped outside our house and went to reverse onto our drive which is unlike her - she usually just drive straight in.
Upon reversing she felt a slight bump and thinking she had hit the curb drove forward and reversed again.........this time she realised that it was something more significant aided by her friend walking down the road shouting out to her that she had just hit a car.
Mrs B was in the Viano and the victim was a little old lady in a ford Ka - apparently the saintly mother of a neighbour.
I think little old lady must have been exceptionally close to the back of Mrs B for her to have not seen her, but she took it on the chin, and even arranged for local garage to do the work and settle the bill directly
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>> We should have a competitition for the best poem or song including that line. It
>> could even be the chorus.
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"You rebuilt my engine now it runs like a dog
All for the want of a brand new cog
And you want me to pay such a tidy sum
Well go stick your head up a dead bears bum'
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"The meaning of life is frequently rum"
Mused the backpacker, using a rule of thumb.
Don't argue the toss
Just show 'em who's boss
So go stick your head up a dead bear's bum.
Scansion not great, but that was the first effort...
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Appears to be an Australian phrase, perhaps dating from The Adventures of Barry Mckenzie, a film made in 1972, but I expect earlier. Not heard it for years but used to use it in my youth too. Nostalgia!
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Really Crankcase? And there was I thinking it was my own contribution to the literary world. I am now deflated. So, whilst contemplating some crystal clear mountain lake this phrase came into my head after a small contretemps with my fellow hiker. Not original at all. Amazing how the brain works, regurgitating something like that from the dark recesses of years ago.
I vaguely remember Barry McKenzie as a cartoon character from my early school days now that you remind me.
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You don't need to make up a rhyme. It originally comes from The Adventures of Barry McKenzie back in the seventies and one of the verses of a song goes like this..
I hope every lah-di-dah Pommy like you
Gets trots when he swallows a plum
Go and dip your left eye in hot cocky s***
And stick your head up a dead bear's bum.
No doubt the swear filter will take its toll.
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For some serious swearing, may I recommend this. I think it moves beyond swearing into parody and then onwards into inventive genius, especially when coming from the mouths of such babes in arms.
Don't say you weren't warned though.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEe97nz9uvU
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>> I was very apologetic,
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>> I didn't 'admit liability',
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I'm interested to know how one can be apologetic without admitting liability?
I'm very sorry that this act of God has chosen to visit itself upon us here in this car park, and especially sorry that He should have chose your car to be the victim of His wrath?
But it's nothing to do with me, I just happen to be here too, with some paint scrapings on my bumper matching your car?
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Just had a phone call from my wife. Apparently, her driver's side door mirror is um, 'missing in action' again. It's quite windy here and she is currently asserting that it must have blown off while she was in the supermarket...
Sheesh !
:-(
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Hmmm. I ended up accidentally in Morrisons in Crewe yesterday...odd place.
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I think it's some kind of re-integration experiment.
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I came into Holyhead off the Dublin ferry last night. The sea appeared to have some fairly substantial speed humps in it on the way over.
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My wife was working there last night, said it was a little choppy.
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>> I think it's some kind of re-integration experiment.
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I think it's like that old film classic, can't remember the name, where all the characters have unknowingly been brought together for some purpose, self-awareness and atonement perhaps.
One day, all the posters on C4P will find themselves in the same car park.
Each will start an entirely independent thread recounting their experiences of what will emerge slowly as the same accident, viewed from their different perspectives.
The old boy who has a scrape, the wife who reports a missing mirror, the witness observing the antics of people in big cars who cannot reverse, the poster who finds the disabled spot occupied by a couple of arguing able-bodied, the lorry driver who finds the access to the delivery area blocked, etc.
Slowly it becomes apparent that all the threads are about the same incident.
Exeunt everyone, flouncing.
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You be a-thinking of Rashomon, Cliff.
I think it'll be more like the 1997 film called Cube.
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Great thinking, Cliff. There'll be one who can't go home because his EV is out of juice and all the charging spaces are blocked by Range Rovers, one who thinks there aren't enough white lines, several who think there are too many and one who claims he was never there at all despite the photo in the letter he's just received.
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>> >> I think it's some kind of re-integration experiment.
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>> I think it's like that old film classic, can't remember the name, where all the
>> characters have unknowingly been brought together for some purpose, self-awareness and atonement perhaps.
>> One day, all the posters on C4P will find themselves in the same car park.
Are we talking about the classic and all round excellent "Tales from the Crypt" series? The Ftwo films not the TV series
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>> Just had a phone call from my wife. Apparently, her driver's side door mirror is
>> um, 'missing in action' again. It's quite windy here and she is currently asserting that
>> it must have blown off while she was in the supermarket...
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>> Sheesh !
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>> :-(
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Ahhh, so that must be your fault for not getting the last one fitted correctly!
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It hasn't yet been mentioned as a possible cause but give it time...
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Mrs Z has just returned home with half the rear bumper hanging off the fezzer. Reversed into something ~ again ~
"I had the reverse sensors turned off - they are annoying"
Daylight will reveal the home repairability or not.
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Windy tonight in Surrey is it?
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yeah so windy its taken the paint off too.
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Well if you find it was hit by an airborne door mirror coming to earth from a northerly direction could I have it back please?
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>> "I had the reverse sensors turned off - they are annoying"
Is that a woman thing?
The Roomster's the first car we've had with them. Mrs B drove it to MK yesterday and complained at length about the 'beepy thing' while navigating her way into a narrow space with a wall behind.
She asked the salesman on the demo drive if they could be turned off - apparently not.
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I find the key with beepy things is ignore them until the moment they start to panic, in a 'you hit it' kind of way. At that point there is about 2 inches to spare in my experience. The display on the stereo is more accurate guide than the beepers too.
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I actually found them quite annoying when I first had a car equipped with them but now they have sort of become another sense., like a bat sees things with sound if you understand what I mean. Never look at the display screen when reversing.
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>> like a bat sees things with
>> sound if you understand what I mean.
I think I may have used the term "batty" when she told me. There was a to of other "b"s as well.
Now its her car, I don't mind, but she is a named driver on my car and its hurts my renewal. Sorry should say was a named driver - wont be for much longer.
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Yeah SWMBO is named on my car and had a prang last year. Strictly it wasn't her fault but that's another story - which I think is here someplace - the ins co said it was her fault. I'd forgotten to previously declare it so declared at recent renewal - my insurance (with another change) went up 30% this year. She went berserk when I suggested removing her from my insurance. I have to say - of the two of us I have the worse driving record, but then again she does about 2k miles a year if she's lucky and I've done up to 30k+ (but down around 8k these days).
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Right (jeez its cold this morning) the bumper is back on, with a towel draped over bits to protect paintwork and judicial use of the right foot size 10 DM's, and 14 stone of ass, the L/H side is clipped back in. A large washer to reinforce a broken screw mounting point, and judicial use of removing alternate clips from the right to deliver to the cash strapped left has resulted in a fester that looks normal at anything other than close distance.
The bottom l/h reflector is cracked, there is a scrape down low on the left, and I need to get some more clips to fix the splash shield properly.
I have told her to leave it as is, and save it up for the next time to have done as a job lot. She was not impressed with that remark.
(to be fair that what I would do)
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Didn't know about these moonlighting judges and their special shoes. Could I have got one to fix my bumper too, or are they just (geddit?) a Surrey thing?
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>> "I had the reverse sensors turned off - they are annoying"
Jesus wept. When we had a Galaxy it had sensors and an "off" switch on the dashboard. First day Mrs A found the switch, the sensors were turned off. Too annoying, apparently. She came home having reversed into a horizontal metal barrier at an angle and smashed a rear light cluster.
The Mazda has no off switch, and quite the most hysterical sensors I've ever heard. She hates them. Excellent. The rear end is pristine, however the side and front leave a lot to be desired. The SAAB has no sensors, I have thought about getting some but, nah. It has great rear visibility and is easy to park. Well designed car, see.
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>> Jesus wept. When we had a Galaxy it had sensors and an "off" switch on
>> the dashboard. First day Mrs A found the switch, the sensors were turned off. Too
>> annoying, apparently. She came home having reversed into a horizontal metal barrier at an angle and smashed a rear light cluster.
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I had regular use of a Peugeot 206 with reversing sensors for over a year. I got to rely on them in one particular tight spot on a dead end where the car had to be shuffled round to turn. The first time I used my own car in the same place I happily edged back waiting for the beeper to sound and gradually get more urgent as I closed on the obstruction - and backed into a fence post. Fortunately without damage to the car, but the post looked decidedly second hand.
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>> reversing sensors for over a year
The reversing sensors failed on my now 10.5 year old X Type est.
I paid just over £100 for the local Jag specialist to have them working again.
I feel it was money well spent versus the likely bodywork / bumper bills that the Ubergruppenfuhrer 'might' have inflicted on it.
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>> I'm interested to know how one can be apologetic without admitting liability?
I was apologetic because I'm polite and it's my nature. But I didn't admit liability although asked to do so by the driver of the other car, because it was partly her fault. She kept coming, rather close, although my car was in reverse and (just) moving.
Anyone who has driven a Chrysler Cruiser knows that the model's rear visibility is poor. It behoves the driver to be cautious when reversing, and I was being cautious. But the circumstances combined to cause contact in an unfortunate way, dammit.
Just one of those things.
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>> I was apologetic because I'm polite and it's my nature. But I didn't admit liability
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I still don't understand. Surely to apologise is to say you are sorry - personally sorry for something you have caused, not just sorry about the state of the world or that supermarket carparks don't provide enough space for Chrysler Landcruisers?
So how is that done without admitting you are liable?
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I love these arguments. Medieval monks discussing the meaning of the Trinity had nothing on this forum.
I think I am with you on this one. A true apology includes an admission of guilt for what has happened, not just regret that the event happened.
A useful checklist for next time you apologise.
jebrown.us/Relationshop/Definitions/apology.html
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Had in the long past time a difference with a chap called Pashby.I smacked him on the chin and I apologised .He accepted my apology and we where friends ever after.
He used to wind me up on the night shift and enough was enough.
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>> He used to wind me up on the night shift and enough was enough.
Reminds me of my late FiL. He was only about 5' 2" and did shift work at Ilford films in Brentwood, Essex.
Some geezer called him shorty and just kept on and on and on at him until one day Ole Len (an Eastender) had had enuff and landed the clown one on the chin. That did the trick alright!
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Someone must have put him up to it.
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Len actually looked like Popeye, follically challenged, with bulging tattooed forearms from when he was 'on the coal', plus a builders labourer. Ruined his knees and hands unfortunately = mucho arthritis.
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Crash, bang wallop! - zippy
