Motoring Discussion > Taxing a new car. Tax / Insurance / Warranties
Thread Author: Oldgit Replies: 26

 Taxing a new car. - Oldgit
Today I'm picking up a new car from the main dealer. I informed the insurance company last Friday of the new details and said the Insurance starts today as requested by me. The garage said that their local post office will get the details from the database for taxation purposes. I've looked on AskMid just now but nothing is there! Do the PO use that database?
 Taxing a new car. - Bromptonaut
Does VED purchase still involve a check of insurance?

I'd an idea they stopped that, relying on ANPR etc for enforcement.
 Taxing a new car. - Bromptonaut
>> I'd an idea they stopped that, relying on ANPR etc for enforcement.

A bit of reading tells me they stopped checking when the continuous insurance rule came in.
 Taxing a new car. - Oldgit
>> Does VED purchase still involve a check of insurance?
>>
>> I'd an idea they stopped that, relying on ANPR etc for enforcement.
>>

Yes, I know about ANPR but thought that the police were only privy to that. Do you know, I honestly cannot remember whether I had to show the PO person my Insurance Cert. last year when I renewed my road tax - I'm sure I did (sneaking feeling).
No my question refers to a garage taxing a new car today at the local Post Office and what information the PO have to hand before issuing the tax - no disc, I realised.
 Taxing a new car. - Falkirk Bairn
Insurers can take days to update the Insurance Database - better now but a few years back it could take a week.

The Post Office apparently access a different system than you or I would on Askmid.

When I bought a new car I took our the 7 day free cover and this was emailed/faxed to the garage who taxed the car.

I changed my insurance with my insurer and then cancelled the "free cover" which was cheaper BUT had high excess and other limitations such as not covering driving other cars etc etc.
 Taxing a new car. - Bill Payer
Until recently we had a car registered 1st March and it was always a faff of timing having to get it MOT'd and reinsured before renewing the tax but last year I was able to renew it online quite early in Feb. I knew about the insurance checking being stopped, but the lack of MOT should have stopped it, but didn't.
 Taxing a new car. - Alanovich
Congrats, Oldgit. What are you getting?

Pagani? Koenigsegg? KIA Picanto?

Can we have a guessing game? I'll start - Honda Jazz.
 Taxing a new car. - Dog
>>Congrats, Oldgit. What are you getting?

Hyundai i10 SE.

Do keep up.!!
 Taxing a new car. - Oldgit
>> >>Congrats, Oldgit. What are you getting?
>>
>> Hyundai i10 SE.
>>
>> Do keep up.!!
>>

Thanks all but it's for my partner. Her 10 year old Fiesta with its hard unforgiving suspension and now defunct aircon was a step too far. A regass only lasted a few weeks and so possible high repair expenses meant it had to go.
I drove it last week and was very impressed by lightness of controls Inc. Clutch etc. Will have to see whether auto speed sensing locking of doors at about 15mph can be programmed out and she'll have to get used to having to push in ignition key and then turn it to remove from lock.
 Taxing a new car. - VxFan
>> Will have to see whether auto speed sensing locking of doors at about 15mph
>> can be programmed out

One day she might be glad of it locking the doors for her. The day someone tries to car jack her, or someone swipes her handbag off one of the passenger seats or boot when she's sat waiting at the lights.

Why is she so against the anti hijack feature? In the event of an accident the doors should automatically unlock, and also when the key is removed from the ignition.
 Taxing a new car. - No FM2R
I tend to agree.
 Taxing a new car. - WillDeBeest
I do too. The advice when I learned to drive was always to drive with the doors unlocked, so as not to hinder rescuers after an accident, but modern locking systems make this unnecessary. But locking the doors oneself seems prissy, somehow; whereas if it's just something the car does...

Since we got the LEC, which auto-locks, I'd got out of the habit of locking the doors when entering a dodgy neighbourhood - Caversham, for example - and then been struck by how easily a passing pedestrian could liberate my laptop bag from the boot.

Now the TDS does it too. I could disable the feature but I don't see the need. It rather cutely unlocks the doors when I take the key out of the ignition - which I keep forgetting to do, perhaps because it's on the inboard side of the steering wheel. It does mean anyone I drop off en route, without stopping the engine, has to pull the handle twice to open their door, but my regular morning passenger seems to cope. Small price to pay, I reckon.
 Taxing a new car. - neiltoo
Ahh!!!

I wondered why I had to do this in my friend's Mini.

8o)
 Taxing a new car. - Crankcase
The Volvo implementation of autolock appears not brilliant to me.

If I set it, then sure, the doors autolock as I drive off. However, when I get out, all the doors other than the driver's remain locked, so if anyone wants something from the back seat you still then have to then unlock the doors manually with the fob, get your something and then fob again to lock all doors.

I tend to prefer not to bother with autolock.

 Taxing a new car. - WillDeBeest
That's consistent with my old S60, Cranks. No auto-lock but if I used the button in the door, then got out, the other doors and the boot remained locked. The LEC unlocks everything with either front door, but curiously not with a rear door - which has left the occasional back-seat drop-off bemused at how to retrieve luggage from boot. Another reason why it's better, as noted in the Reverse Over Wife thread, to be a gent and get out to help.
 Taxing a new car. - VxFan
>> The Volvo implementation of autolock appears not brilliant to me.
>>
>> If I set it, then sure, the doors autolock as I drive off. However, when
>> I get out, all the doors other than the driver's remain locked, so if anyone
>> wants something from the back seat you still then have to then unlock the doors
>> manually with the fob, get your something and then fob again to lock all doors.

Have you got the fob set to only unlock one door with one press, and all doors with two presses?

IIRC, with the Vectra I had, if the fob was set up in this manner, the auto lock system would also only unlock the drivers door when the key was taken out the ignition.

For the way you want it to work, needed the fob changing to unlock all doors with one press.
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 17 Jun 15 at 12:47
 Taxing a new car. - No FM2R
>>For the way you want it to work, needed the fob changing to unlock all doors with one press

'Spect he's right.

As I recall, the last time I bought a car in the US someone explained to me that it was a legal requirement that central & remote lock/unlock could be set to do driver's door only so most cars could be changed between the two behaviours.
 Taxing a new car. - Crankcase
>>
>> For the way you want it to work, needed the fob changing to unlock all
>> doors with one press.


Thanks Dave, but I don't believe Volvo, or at least not mine, offer anything extra via fob. There's a setting in the in car menu for door locking is all, and it's just on or off, and behaves as I described.

Lucky for you, incidentally, there weren't any moderators about, when you replied, or you might have got the infamous snipquote...

:)
Last edited by: Crankcase on Wed 17 Jun 15 at 19:50
 Taxing a new car. - sooty123
I had a car with auto locking, i had it turned off. Just found it annoying, stumped nearly everyone who tried to get out. More chance of winning the lottery than getting car jacked around here.
 Taxing a new car. - Alanovich
>> when entering a dodgy neighbourhood - Caversham, for example

Not a problem for me. The lads know better than to defecate on their own doorsteps. Outsiders in flash motors are fair game, though.

I suppose you have to go somewhere real to get your kebab fix though. Give us your number plate and I'll tell the boys to add it to their whitelist.
 Taxing a new car. - WillDeBeest
Still wish it was RO58 EEF. The 58 bit is right, though.
 Taxing a new car. - Oldgit
Well when we park we perhaps like to open the front doors without having to remove the ignition key but perhaps this can bbe done on each separate door by operating the door release twice or perhaps pressing the interior lock/unlock button?
 Taxing a new car. - VxFan
>> but perhaps this can be done on each separate door by operating the door release twice or perhaps pressing the interior lock/unlock button?

Yep, almost certain.
 Taxing a new car. - WillDeBeest
Either works with mine, certainly. Do we think this is what confused that couple who thought they'd locked themselves into their car?
 Taxing a new car. - Rick O'Shea
"I'd got out of the habit of locking the doors when entering a dodgy neighbourhood - Caversham, for example"

For me bandit country starts when travelling anywhere north of Cambridge! People are to be heard talking in comedy accents, for example pronouncing 'bath' with the 'A' sounding like the 'A' in 'AT' instead of it rhyming with the letter 'R'.
Mispronouncing any word with a 'U' in it.

Examples of comedy pronunciation are to be heard everywhere, obviously the Birmingham/West Midlands/Liverpool/Geordie accents are worthy of mention but they give me a headache even to think of them!

There are further examples to be found of incorrect use of language such as calling 'lunch' 'dinner' dinner is an evening meal!

And what a Batch or a Barm is I do not know!

Perhaps I have misunderstood and they are not vying for the funniest accent but are (like users of Cockney Rhyming Slang before) planning their latest criminal enterprise and don't want law abiding southerners to understand!
 Taxing a new car. - Oldgit
Well the new car was apparently taxed at about 9am on Wednesday but it doesn't show as being taxed yet on the Gov.co.UK website?
However went onto the AskMID website and that shows the car as being insured now. I guess all these things take several days, or so it would seem. I naively thought that things would be !more snappier!




 Taxing a new car. - VxFan
>> it doesn't show as being taxed yet on the Gov.co.UK website?

It does have a disclaimer after you enter your details on
www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

"Please be aware that if you have taxed, made a SORN or had an MOT in the last 5 days these details may not have updated"
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