Motoring Discussion > GB on number plates if the Scots leave Legal Questions
Thread Author: Dulwich Estate Replies: 37

 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Dulwich Estate
Should the Scots choose to leave will we still be Great Britain ?

If not, what on earth can we do with our number plates showing GB at present?

EWANI or maybe LB.

We can't have E nor can we have B as others got there first.

 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - PeterS
I think we should stay as Great Britain; they can have Not so Great Scotland ;-)
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Dog
Howls about BI for British Isles (or Blimmin Iriots!)
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Dulwich Estate
Trouble is that includes the pesky Scots and the Irish too.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - madf
SRS for Scotland: Socialist Republic o' Scotland.

EWINSTG : for the rest.
England, Wales,Ireland,No Scots Thank God.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - ....
Abbreviated Former United Kingdom in a Euro symbol should keep the UKIPers happy.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Bromptonaut
The country codes are allocated via a convention dating back to 1949. This seems to allocate GB to the whole of the UK - including Northern Ireland which is not part of Great Britain (a solely geographic entity.

ENG, CYM, NI and SCO are already used unofficially by the territories comprising Great Britain/UK. Either their use would be formalised by the UN or new variations on the GBJ etc sequence used by Channel Islands and Gibraltar devised. I guess Scotland would use GB in the interim.

On a richter scale of problems to be solved on independence it barely shakes the needle.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Shiny
Alba = AA or AB
Albania have AlL
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Zero
>> The country codes are allocated via a convention dating back to 1949. This seems to
>> allocate GB to the whole of the UK - including Northern Ireland which is not
>> part of Great Britain (a solely geographic entity.

So its not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

My passport must be wrong
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Shiny

>>
>> My passport must be wrong
>>
No..
UK of GB & NI - not GB of UK and NI.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Zero
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>> >>
>> >> My passport must be wrong
>> >>
>> No..
>> UK of GB & NI - not GB of UK and NI.

But its a single country. You can't have the letter code UKGBI.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 16 Apr 14 at 12:37
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Bromptonaut
>> But its a single country. You can't have the letter code UKGBI.

It's a United Kingdom of Great Britain (the island land mass comprised of England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland (the six counties of the island of Ireland which are not part of the Republic).

Scotland, Wales and NI have varying degrees of devolution and even without independence there's no practical reason why they cannot use CYM SCO etc now subject to required international agreement. Whether we'd still be a United Kingdom, in some federal sense, after Scottish independence is an open question. A vote for devolution simply moves both governments into the real heavy lifting of negotiating such arrangements.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Alanovich
Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we should have been using all along - UK.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Zero
>> Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we should
>> have been using all along - UK.

But with Scotland gone, its no longer the United Kingdom.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 16 Apr 14 at 12:22
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - No FM2R
You know the best thing about this Independence y/n vote? Whatever happens at least we won't have to hear about it anymore.

Tiresome and silly, the whole thing.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Zero
No? you think this will be the end of it?

If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Armel Coussine
>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.

And if they vote Yes, everyone will calm down and forget all about it? Heh heh... me don't tink so.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - VxFan
I thought the GB stood for Getting Better, not Great Britain ;)
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - No FM2R
If they vote no, then the irritating dicks who still go on about it will be dismissed, by me at least, with;

"P Off, you had your chance and blew it"

And if they vote yes;

"P Off, you're not part of my country and I don't care."

Neither the yes nor the no will make any long term difference, its all just rather silly.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - retgwte
Sadly we bailed the southern Irish out when their public sector finances went into melt down. I expect we will end up bailing out an independent Scotland in just the same way.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Lygonos
Yeah - we bailed them out by letting them borrow money at a higher rate than we paid to borrow it.

Shylocks the lot of us.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Lygonos
Used to be a lot of Scottish drivers went to Europe with an 'Ecosse' badge on the back of their motors - anecdotally at least this could induce an agreeable camaraderie with Johnny Foreigner more than a GB badge.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Westpig
>> No? you think this will be the end of it?
>>
>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
>>

The way the history has gone with the EU votes...if there's a 'no' vote, there will be a temporary delay until there's another vote...and that will continue until there's a 'yes' vote.

Once there's a 'yes', that will be it.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Harleyman
>> No? you think this will be the end of it?
>>
>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
>>

Think yourself lucky we're not doing it under EU rules; inasmuch as we'd keep having referendums till they could wangle a yes vote by fair means or foul.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Bromptonaut
>> Think yourself lucky we're not doing it under EU rules; inasmuch as we'd keep having
>> referendums till they could wangle a yes vote by fair means or foul.

Look, agitating for another bite of the cherry is universal politics. If the Scots vote for independence now the result will be no more or less conclusive than that in favour of Europe in 1975.

Come 2034, particularly if the economy is problematic, there will be voices in an independent Scotland seeking a plebiscite on restoring the Union
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - No FM2R
(Bromp, did you see I gave the butcher's details?)
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Bromptonaut
>> (Bromp, did you see I gave the butcher's details?)

Yes, I plan to give him a call. Never seen him round here though, were in the villages west of M1 but east of A5 and more suburbs of Northampton than Woodend, Slapton Blakesley etc.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - No FM2R
Have you tried the Woodford Dynasty Indian Restaurant over in Woodford Halse?

Its very good.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Harleyman

>> Come 2034, particularly if the economy is problematic, there will be voices in an independent
>> Scotland seeking a plebiscite on restoring the Union
>>

And I shall hopefully still be alive to cast my "No" vote in the English plebiscite asking my agreement to this. ;-)
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Alanovich
>> >> Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we
>> should
>> >> have been using all along - UK.
>>
>> But with Scotland gone, its no longer the United Kingdom.
>>

Eh? United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland remains.

Of course, United Republic would be more elegant......
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Armel Coussine
>> United Republic would be more elegant......

It might seem more rational to a person unversed in realpolitik, but it would only seem more 'elegant' to a thuggish philistine.

I'm sure you aren't one of those Alanović. Must have been a typo.

:o}
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - CGNorwich
The United Kingdom originally refereed to the kingdoms of England and Scotland after the Act of Union. Wales had been subsumed into the Kingdom of England and was not a kingdom but a principality. In 1800 the Kingdom of Ireland was added. When Eire became an independent republic the word "Northern" was added to differentiate it.

Therefore if Scotland left the Union we could still claim to be the United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - R.P.
So one assumes from that that Wales can remove itself. Principality Pah ! Ruled by an unelected swivel eyed loon. The last Prince of Wales died in 1292.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Harleyman
>> So one assumes from that that Wales can remove itself. Principality Pah ! Ruled by
>> an unelected swivel eyed loon.

Owain GlynFarage? ;-)

>>
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - movilogo
Geographical proximity is often less relevant than psychological proximity.

On many grounds London is already a different planet altogether.

Great leaders unite people and bad leaders .... well you know.
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - Stuartli
Interestingly, the Premier League list of foreign players appearing for the various clubs includes Welsh, Northern Ireland and Scottish individuals in the line ups....

tinyurl.com/nw2hdte

 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - No FM2R
Presumably because they have different national teams?
 GB on number plates if the Scots leave - neiltoo
It's because it's the ENGLISH Premier League - even if Cardiff and Swansea play in English Leagues.
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