Should the Scots choose to leave will we still be Great Britain ?
If not, what on earth can we do with our number plates showing GB at present?
EWANI or maybe LB.
We can't have E nor can we have B as others got there first.
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I think we should stay as Great Britain; they can have Not so Great Scotland ;-)
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Howls about BI for British Isles (or Blimmin Iriots!)
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Trouble is that includes the pesky Scots and the Irish too.
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SRS for Scotland: Socialist Republic o' Scotland.
EWINSTG : for the rest.
England, Wales,Ireland,No Scots Thank God.
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Abbreviated Former United Kingdom in a Euro symbol should keep the UKIPers happy.
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The country codes are allocated via a convention dating back to 1949. This seems to allocate GB to the whole of the UK - including Northern Ireland which is not part of Great Britain (a solely geographic entity.
ENG, CYM, NI and SCO are already used unofficially by the territories comprising Great Britain/UK. Either their use would be formalised by the UN or new variations on the GBJ etc sequence used by Channel Islands and Gibraltar devised. I guess Scotland would use GB in the interim.
On a richter scale of problems to be solved on independence it barely shakes the needle.
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Alba = AA or AB
Albania have AlL
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>> The country codes are allocated via a convention dating back to 1949. This seems to
>> allocate GB to the whole of the UK - including Northern Ireland which is not
>> part of Great Britain (a solely geographic entity.
So its not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
My passport must be wrong
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>> My passport must be wrong
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No..
UK of GB & NI - not GB of UK and NI.
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>> >> My passport must be wrong
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>> No..
>> UK of GB & NI - not GB of UK and NI.
But its a single country. You can't have the letter code UKGBI.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 16 Apr 14 at 12:37
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>> But its a single country. You can't have the letter code UKGBI.
It's a United Kingdom of Great Britain (the island land mass comprised of England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland (the six counties of the island of Ireland which are not part of the Republic).
Scotland, Wales and NI have varying degrees of devolution and even without independence there's no practical reason why they cannot use CYM SCO etc now subject to required international agreement. Whether we'd still be a United Kingdom, in some federal sense, after Scottish independence is an open question. A vote for devolution simply moves both governments into the real heavy lifting of negotiating such arrangements.
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Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we should have been using all along - UK.
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>> Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we should
>> have been using all along - UK.
But with Scotland gone, its no longer the United Kingdom.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 16 Apr 14 at 12:22
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You know the best thing about this Independence y/n vote? Whatever happens at least we won't have to hear about it anymore.
Tiresome and silly, the whole thing.
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No? you think this will be the end of it?
If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
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>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
And if they vote Yes, everyone will calm down and forget all about it? Heh heh... me don't tink so.
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I thought the GB stood for Getting Better, not Great Britain ;)
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If they vote no, then the irritating dicks who still go on about it will be dismissed, by me at least, with;
"P Off, you had your chance and blew it"
And if they vote yes;
"P Off, you're not part of my country and I don't care."
Neither the yes nor the no will make any long term difference, its all just rather silly.
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Sadly we bailed the southern Irish out when their public sector finances went into melt down. I expect we will end up bailing out an independent Scotland in just the same way.
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Yeah - we bailed them out by letting them borrow money at a higher rate than we paid to borrow it.
Shylocks the lot of us.
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Used to be a lot of Scottish drivers went to Europe with an 'Ecosse' badge on the back of their motors - anecdotally at least this could induce an agreeable camaraderie with Johnny Foreigner more than a GB badge.
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>> No? you think this will be the end of it?
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>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
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The way the history has gone with the EU votes...if there's a 'no' vote, there will be a temporary delay until there's another vote...and that will continue until there's a 'yes' vote.
Once there's a 'yes', that will be it.
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>> No? you think this will be the end of it?
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>> If they vote No, some people will still be agitating for another referendum.
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Think yourself lucky we're not doing it under EU rules; inasmuch as we'd keep having referendums till they could wangle a yes vote by fair means or foul.
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>> Think yourself lucky we're not doing it under EU rules; inasmuch as we'd keep having
>> referendums till they could wangle a yes vote by fair means or foul.
Look, agitating for another bite of the cherry is universal politics. If the Scots vote for independence now the result will be no more or less conclusive than that in favour of Europe in 1975.
Come 2034, particularly if the economy is problematic, there will be voices in an independent Scotland seeking a plebiscite on restoring the Union
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(Bromp, did you see I gave the butcher's details?)
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>> (Bromp, did you see I gave the butcher's details?)
Yes, I plan to give him a call. Never seen him round here though, were in the villages west of M1 but east of A5 and more suburbs of Northampton than Woodend, Slapton Blakesley etc.
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Have you tried the Woodford Dynasty Indian Restaurant over in Woodford Halse?
Its very good.
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>> Come 2034, particularly if the economy is problematic, there will be voices in an independent
>> Scotland seeking a plebiscite on restoring the Union
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And I shall hopefully still be alive to cast my "No" vote in the English plebiscite asking my agreement to this. ;-)
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>> >> Surely Scotland will go with SCO or SC, and we'll finally use what we
>> should
>> >> have been using all along - UK.
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>> But with Scotland gone, its no longer the United Kingdom.
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Eh? United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland remains.
Of course, United Republic would be more elegant......
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>> United Republic would be more elegant......
It might seem more rational to a person unversed in realpolitik, but it would only seem more 'elegant' to a thuggish philistine.
I'm sure you aren't one of those Alanović. Must have been a typo.
:o}
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The United Kingdom originally refereed to the kingdoms of England and Scotland after the Act of Union. Wales had been subsumed into the Kingdom of England and was not a kingdom but a principality. In 1800 the Kingdom of Ireland was added. When Eire became an independent republic the word "Northern" was added to differentiate it.
Therefore if Scotland left the Union we could still claim to be the United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland.
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So one assumes from that that Wales can remove itself. Principality Pah ! Ruled by an unelected swivel eyed loon. The last Prince of Wales died in 1292.
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>> So one assumes from that that Wales can remove itself. Principality Pah ! Ruled by
>> an unelected swivel eyed loon.
Owain GlynFarage? ;-)
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Geographical proximity is often less relevant than psychological proximity.
On many grounds London is already a different planet altogether.
Great leaders unite people and bad leaders .... well you know.
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Interestingly, the Premier League list of foreign players appearing for the various clubs includes Welsh, Northern Ireland and Scottish individuals in the line ups....
tinyurl.com/nw2hdte
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Presumably because they have different national teams?
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It's because it's the ENGLISH Premier League - even if Cardiff and Swansea play in English Leagues.
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