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Thread Author: Robin O'Reliant	Replies: 17

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Thu 12 Dec 13 18:11

Dodgy Diesel - Robin O'Reliant

Food for thought for the oil burners among us -

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/10511156/Motorists-warned-over-bad-diesel.html

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Thu 12 Dec 13 18:24

Dodgy Diesel - rtj70

The handbook for the Mondeo I had said no biodiesel at all could be used. And yet there is biodiesel in all diesel.... It did run okay for the 4 years I had it. Apart from the things that went wrong like two failed EGR valves (but don't think diesel was to blame just bad luck).

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Thu 12 Dec 13 18:30

Dodgy Diesel - ....

Volvo told me the same thing with my 54 plate D5 under no circumstances use biodiesel.
I remember after one particular fill up in Belgium (using a French fuel company blend which coincided with when they started the 7% mix) it wasn't happy. Rough running and really bad consumption figures. Never put that companies fuel in the car again.

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Fri 13 Dec 13 16:24

Dodgy Diesel - Boxsterboy

As the RAC report alludes, it is probably poorly serviced cars which are suffering most.

I have only had waxing once - in a Golf Mk 1 diesel in an unexpected cold snap on the M25, over 25 years ago!

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Fri 13 Dec 13 17:14

Dodgy Diesel - Manatee

The RAC bloke says it's worse in the East from which he infers that there's a difference in fuel sold in different regions.

I'd be seeing that as confirmation of a link to ambient temperatures, isn't it usually colder in the east?

Funnily enough, my "picture of an engine" light came on last January only a day or two before the 18,000 mile service it was already booked in for. I was told the diagnosis was "new fuel filter required" which was on the schedule anyway.

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Fri 13 Dec 13 22:12

Dodgy Diesel - Old Navy

>> The RAC bloke says it's worse in the East from which he infers that there's
>> a difference in fuel sold in different regions.
>>
>> I'd be seeing that as confirmation of a link to ambient temperatures, isn't it usually
>> colder in the east?
>>

I live in the east of Scotland, as UK winter diesel is good for -15C I don't think the recent ambient temperatures of +12C is the problem, and most diesel cars have fuel filter heaters.

www.ukpia.com/files/pdf/ukpia-briefing-paper-diesel-fuel-winter-2010-.pdf

Last edited by: Old Navy on Fri 13 Dec 13 at 22:15

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Fri 13 Dec 13 22:29

Dodgy Diesel - Manatee

>> I live in the east of Scotland, as UK winter diesel is good for -15C
>> I don't think the recent ambient temperatures of +12C is the problem, and most diesel
>> cars have fuel filter heaters.

We've had plenty of frost here, so colder than 12, but that's not the point.

I'm not suggesting that temperature alone is the cause, it gets colder than this - but we know the east is colder on average, we don't know there's any difference in the fuel.

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Sat 14 Dec 13 13:10

Dodgy Diesel - Old Navy

If there was a duff batch of diesel I think it would effect thousands of diesel vehicles if it was duff at source. A refinery batch, a ship load imported, even one contaminated filling station would effect hundreds of cars. As there has been no national outcry to my knowledge it is either a very localised problem or coincidence.

Where is East? Edinburgh is due North of Cardiff. :-)

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Tue 17 Dec 13 18:26

Dodgy Diesel - PhilW

Another aspect to this "dodgy diesel" lark
www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/biofuels/10520736/The-great-biofuels-scandal.html

Yes, I realise it is only one side of the story!! But if even Al Gore realises it's wrong, it says a lot!
P

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Tue 17 Dec 13 21:52

Dodgy Diesel - Boxsterboy

Can't read it - they want me to subscribe! Er, no thanks.

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Tue 17 Dec 13 22:19

Dodgy Diesel - CGNorwich

you must have exceeded their 20 page limit this month and hit the metred pay-wall.

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Tue 17 Dec 13 22:23

Dodgy Diesel - PhilW

Odd, because I look at it almost every day and have never been asked to subscribe and never been told I have reached a limit

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Tue 17 Dec 13 22:36

Dodgy Diesel - CGNorwich

"Odd, because I look at it almost every day and have never been asked to subscribe and never been told I have reached a limit"

Do you access on different machines? It's 20 articles per month free access to websites but presumably it can only count per computer . Over 20 visits it costs £1.99 per month for unlimited access. If you want the mobile apps it's £9.99 per month. Quite reasonable really.

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Wed 18 Dec 13 11:33

Dodgy Diesel - neiltoo

I think that if you clear your cookies, it resets.

8o)

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Wed 18 Dec 13 13:18

Dodgy Diesel - Roger.

I use Ccleaner to do just that. You can easily set which cookies to purge & which to keep.
Ccleaner has an option to add a right click "run Ccleaner" to your recycle bin, so it's easy enough
to do.

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Wed 18 Dec 13 14:07

Dodgy Diesel - madf

>> Can't read it - they want me to subscribe! Er, no thanks.
>>

All you need to do is clear your cookies. Their counter gets reset and you have another 20 views.. Google has that in its Tools section..

PS : don't tell anyone :-)

PS : sorry just read other posts.

Got CCleaner as well..

Last edited by: madf on Wed 18 Dec 13 at 14:08

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Wed 18 Dec 13 14:23

Dodgy Diesel - neiltoo

>> Got CCleaner as well..
>>

Me too, it's very good.

for other things as well.

8o)

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Wed 18 Dec 13 15:48

Dodgy Diesel - bathtub tom

I've found I can open it in another web browser once my limit's up.

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