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 Wed 11 Dec 13 12:26 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - tyro
A cautionary tale - which I've also posted over on Clubjazz.

I decided to get steel wheels and winter tyres for the Jazz. Ordered from Oponeo. Oponeo gave me a choice of 4 steel wheels that would fit a Honda Jazz Mk 1, and they seemed pretty similar, so I chose 1 of them - the Alcar KFZ 6845. Having got the new tyres on the new wheels, I set about changing the four wheels yesterday afternoon as darkness was falling.

When I went for a quick drive, I discovered a rather disconcerting wah-wah-wah-wah sound coming from front wheels. It turns out that the wheels don't have sufficient clearance and are rubbing slightly on the brake calipers.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 14:00 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - madf
Take an angle grinder to the calipers - carefully.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 14:02 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Lygonos
>> wah wah wah wah noise

It's not the car, it's Zero mocking your choice to get winter tyres

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC75aU47GRk
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 14:08 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Armel Coussine
>> wah wah wah wah noise

>> It's not the car, it's Zero

But don't take an angle grinder to Zero. It'll destroy the disc.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 14:23 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Lygonos
>>But don't take an angle grinder to Zero. It'll destroy the disc.

I was thinking it would be more of an industrial version of hitting a fox poo with a strimmer.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 15:00 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - tyro
To be honest, I think Zero and I agree about winter tyres.

If you live in London and the home counties, forget it.

If you live in the back of beyond and do a lot of miles on deserted rural roads, it's a rather different matter.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 15:22 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - madf
In winter, I ( sans winter tyres) get stuck behind 4x4s - again without winter tyres..
Last edited by: madf on Wed 11 Dec 13 at 15:23
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 16:07 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Fullchat
It'll not be the disc but the top or bottom of the caliper. Remove wheel and look for recently rubbed shiny bits. You may just need to 'dress' the caliper with an angle grinder and sanding disc to remove a little bit of the metal.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 16:23 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - tyro
What I did was to contact Oponeo. They did some research, and discovered that Honda had changed the design of their brakes some time around 2004, with the result that wheels that were fine for early Mk 1 Jazzes were not suitable for late Mk 1 Jazzes.

They agreed to exchange the incorrect wheels for a set of correct ones.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 16:41 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Lygonos
Which is, of course, the correct outcome.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 16:53 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - VxFan
>> It'll not be the disc but the top or bottom of the caliper. Remove wheel
>> and look for recently rubbed shiny bits. You may just need to 'dress' the caliper
>> with an angle grinder and sanding disc to remove a little bit of the metal.

And also allow for caliper movement as the pads wear down.
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 Wed 11 Dec 13 16:59 
 Steel wheels and brake caliper clearance - Dog
>>In winter, I ( sans winter tyres) get stuck behind 4x4s - again without winter tyres..

It's not too late mad f:

www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/66645/winter-tyres-test-reviews-and-prices-2013
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