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 Fri 29 Nov 13 17:57 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - FocalPoint
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYTfZRz8fN4

I amazed that such a Heath-Robinson procedure actually worked. They must have done this before.
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 18:06 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Mapmaker
Give me a lever long enough and I can move the world.

A Spanish windlass. Awesomely powerful. (And fiendishly dangerous. Just think what would happen if the rope snapped with all those spectators.)

The thing that worried me most is... if the SUV causes the ice to crack and fall in, then what happens when you have a crowd of gongoozlers plus a SUV on the top of the ice???!
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 18:11 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Cliff Pope
I like the winch.
I almost thought they were just going to start it up and drive away.
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 18:16 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Zero
I'd have left the damn thing there. Would have laughed if the ice cracked and they all fell in.
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 18:33 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Armel Coussine
I was hoping for a couple of frozen corpses in the car. Swizz.

The ice is obviously very thick, a metre or so I would think. Even if all completely ratted on vodka, as one would want to be in a place like that, they didn't crowd round the car but the bloke who did go near it clearly felt confident. I really like the winch. Seemples! But they would have had to go and get the timber, ropes etc.

Perhaps the car had driven into a hole made for fishing or the like?
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 19:42 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Dog
Just as well it had winter tyres fitted.

:}
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 20:10 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - sherlock47
But how did they get the 'sled' underneath the car before winching?
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 20:17 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - sooty123
Hmm I wondered that. How does the wood hook onto the car?
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 21:36 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Old Navy
>> Hmm I wondered that. How does the wood hook onto the car?
>>

I think the video is self explanatory, the rope from the Spanish windlass goes over the crossbar of the "sled" and attaches to the back of the car. This has the effect of dragging the car onto the sled as the rope is bearing down on the crossbar as it pulls the car. I may have the advantage that I was a qualified seaman and rigger so I can tie fancy knots and splice steel wire rope, (and the mainbrace). :-)
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 21:40 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - sooty123

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and attaches to the back of the car.


. I may have the advantage that I


Watched the video more closely than me. :-)

I missed the bit where the rope was attached to the car.
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 21:55 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Cliff Pope
It isn't a Spanish windlass, it's just a rope wound round an axle stuck in a hole in the ice, with a long lever to turn it.
A Spanish windlass works by having two close loops of rope, twisted together by alternating levers, so that the ends are slowly drawn together.

www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Spanish-Windlass

The point of a Spanish windlass is to exert an enormous force over a short distance.
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 22:00 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Old Navy
OK delete "Spanish" from windlass.
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 Sat 30 Nov 13 14:58 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Cliff Pope
>> OK delete "Spanish" from windlass.
>>

It's got a vertical drum, not horizontal, so it's a capstan, not a windlass. :)
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 Sat 30 Nov 13 15:49 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Old Navy
>> It's got a vertical drum, not horizontal, so it's a capstan, not a windlass. :)
>>

I take it you have not seen a windlass with a vertical drum then.

tinyurl.com/p3qm5s7
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 Sun 1 Dec 13 09:22 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Duncan
>> >> It's got a vertical drum, not horizontal, so it's a capstan, not a windlass.
>> :)
>> >>
>>
>> I take it you have not seen a windlass with a vertical drum then.
>>
>> tinyurl.com/p3qm5s7
>>

What is a gypsey?
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 Sun 1 Dec 13 09:50 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Zero

>> What is a gypsey?

they are the ones having the car away.
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 Sun 1 Dec 13 10:32 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Cliff Pope
>> >> It's got a vertical drum, not horizontal, so it's a capstan, not a windlass.
>> :)
>> >>
>>
>> I take it you have not seen a windlass with a vertical drum then.
>>
>> tinyurl.com/p3qm5s7
>>

New-fangled inventions, misusing traditional definitions.

This is a capstan:

www.landrover-winches.com/Parts/Winches/Mechanical_Capstan_Winches/

This is a windlass:

www.westecequipment.com/awwindlasses.cfm?sec=m
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 22:00 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Duncan
How was the rope attached to the back of the car?
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 22:02 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Old Navy
>> How was the rope attached to the back of the car?
>>

Probably a knot (or maybe a hitch) of some description, an eye splice and shackle is a bit up market for that job. :-)
Last edited by: Old Navy on Fri 29 Nov 13 at 22:05
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 22:10 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Duncan
>> >> How was the rope attached to the back of the car?
>> >>
>>
>> Probably a knot (or maybe a hitch) of some description, an eye splice and shackle
>> is a bit up market for that job. :-)
>>

Yes, but how did they get the rope to catch on the towbar, or whatever?
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 Fri 29 Nov 13 22:15 
 Getting a car out of an icy lake - Russia - Old Navy
I expect the person who had the greatest desire to recover the car got a bit wet and cold.

The rear of the car is partially raised in the video with the lengths of wood used as levers.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Fri 29 Nov 13 at 22:19
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