Motoring Discussion > Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding?	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: FocalPoint	Replies: 19

New Tue 16 Jul 13 19:41   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - FocalPoint

He's accused of drink-driving. Tests done at a police station show he was nearly three times over the limit. It is claimed that, when pulled over by police at 01:45 he admitted he "was bang out of order", that he could not stand up properly and that he slurred his words. He swore at the police - caught on video. His story is that he was sipping water all evening, that he had had only two glasses of wine and that he felt fine. He is denying the charges. Why does he think the court will believe him? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23330760 Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 16 Jul 13 20:29   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Armel Coussine

>> Why does he think the court will believe him? Because he's Ray Wilkins, that's why. Er... who he? Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 16 Jul 13 21:08   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Zero

you cant use an "i wasnt drunk" defence, the machine is the absolute arbiter in law on that point. Lots of other lines of possible defence, but that one wont fly - no way. Reply to this message | Report message

New Tue 16 Jul 13 22:13   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Bromptonaut

>> you cant use an "i wasnt drunk" defence, the machine is the absolute arbiter in >> law on that point. >> >> Lots of other lines of possible defence, but that one wont fly - no way. >> Barring an attempt Nick Freeman stylee to discredit machine or its operator that has to be right. Next question, why has a reasonably straightforward DUI offence taken 14 months to get in front of the beak? Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 00:12   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Lygonos

The only way this defence has any chance is if he can show that the alcohol was plied without his knowledge. To say the machine is at faulty is indeed a waste of everyone's time. Presumably back up samples of urine/blood were taken/offered to Mr Wilkins. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 10:08   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Mike Hannon

Yeah, ok, so who is he? Somebody important? Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 10:17   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Oldgit

>> Yeah, ok, so who is he? Somebody important? >> I'd have to Google to find out who this person is and I cannot be bothered. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 10:27   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Falkirk Bairn

Neighbour travelled on a train from London to Sotland - he had a few "refreshments" on the way - at our local station he staggered & collapsed on the platform with what was later diagnosed as a "minor stroke"..... to many he appeared to be really drunk. A few days in hospital an he carried on as normal. Wilkins Vs the breathalyser however is a steep mountain to win. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 12:28   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Meldrew

Perhaps Wilkins is kidding himself or really doesn't know the alcoholic content of what he is putting down his neck. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 19:01   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Bill Payer

He put up a spirited :) defence - www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/ray-wilkins-breath-test-results-5118260 but it was in vain. Guilty, 3yr ban, 120hrs community service and £4K costs. His defence costs must have been substantial, too. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 19:09   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Lygonos

"The court also heard that Wilkins already has a two-year disqualification from driving after failing to produce a breath specimen following a crash in Tongham on March 7 this year. He was fined £2,000 by Guildford Magistrates' Court on March 21 in relation to that offence" DUI has a very high hit-rate for finding problem drinkers. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 19:24   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Armel Coussine

The apples fermented Inside the lamented And made cider inside 'er inside... Perhaps it was rhubarb crumble in Mr Wilkins's case. Or some sort of pancreatic or liver condition. Like the character in Burroughs's Naked Lunch who announces: "I'm gonna by god metabolize my own junk...' or words to that effect. I was once pulled by a little baby copper who alleged that my car had been 'weaving about'. The little beast was lying through his teeth in a regulation manner because I never 'weave about' (as perhaps a third of 'drivers' do at all times) however drunk I am. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 19:34   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - R.P.

Just deserts...glad the drunken fool is off the road. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 20:41   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - henry k

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23350642 Wilkins' barrister told the court that "extenuating circumstances" should be taken into account, the details of which were undisclosed. Phillip Lucas, defending, said Wilkins did not wish for these details to be revealed but said they "may explain" the two offences. Some keep trying :-) Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 20:53   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Lygonos

If I was a judge, I'm sure anyone trying the "I'm not guilty" followed by the "Here's why I done it" would get 0.0% mitigation. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 21:24   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Westpig

Not exactly contrite is he. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 22:16   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - R.P.

Laws are for little people thing probably. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 22:21   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - henry k

He was lucky to travel from Bournemouth to Cobham (90 mins?) without any reported incidents. All major A roads / Motorway He was then driven from Cobham to Reigate to be tested. A significant amount of time for the "water " to get diluted. Reply to this message | Report message

New Wed 17 Jul 13 22:32   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Zero

>> Not exactly contrite is he. He's a grade A prick, but he is not the only one, Chelsea personal are notorious round here for their crap driving and lack of social graces. (their training ground at Cobham is about 5 miles away from where I live) Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 21 Jul 13 23:59   Who does Ray Wilkins think he's kidding? - Alanovich

>> >> Not exactly contrite is he. >> >> He's a grade A prick, but he is not the only one, Chelsea personal are >> notorious round here for their crap driving and lack of social graces. (their training ground >> at Cobham is about 5 miles away from where I live) >> Why am I not surprised. Reply to this message | Report message       1