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Know it's been asked here on HJ before - I think that Ted has one. Seem to be a wide range on the market - any recommendations on a thingy to suck oil via the dipstick. Think Fiesta !
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I have the 6 litre Pela globe shaped one. Works well enough.
I got it here, some time ago - may not be the cheapest now, and they are out of stock.
www.seamarknunn.com/acatalog/pela-vacuum-oil-extractor-pump-6-l-6567.html#.UdlUAfnSxNM
I see they have a cheaper one now. The tube is a bit fatter, which might or might not be a problem. The tube on the Pela looks identical to bicycle Bowden cable outer, and is c. 5mm.
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Mine is identical to the one linked, used it on the Astra yesterday, no probs. provided the oil is hot.
Screwfix want 50 quid for an identical one.
cheapest on the bay is around 36 quid, same on Amazon.
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>> cheapest on the bay is around 36 quid, same on Amazon.
Out of stock on Amazon - the one at £36 as I look is the 2 litre one - no good for cars.
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>> Mine is identical to the one linked............
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As is mine. Does the job, hot oil is the secret.
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>>Think Fiesta !
I'm thinking: www.fiesta.co.uk/
:}
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I was thinking barely legal (er..tyres that is)
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I've got the Pela one, works a treat as long as you go for a long drive first and get the oil really hot. One of the best bits of kit I've bought. It does actually get all of the oil out, I've checked!
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Great thanks all (and Dog) - Got a Pela one from fleabay. Ideal it seems for the job.
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>>Great thanks all (and Dog)
You're more-than welcome Rob, I'm a bit-of-an expert on the matter you see but, I prefer to lay underneath.
;)
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TBH I dont see the point. If they sucked the oil out the filter it would be worth it, but you still have to get under the car and get covered in oil changing the filter.
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Not thinking in bangernomics terms Zero ! One of the rules is not to mess with the sump plug which may be seized or "threaded" !
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>> TBH I dont see the point. If they sucked the oil out the filter it
>> would be worth it, but you still have to get under the car and get
>> covered in oil changing the filter.
Handy on the CRV - oil filter self draining and right there when you open the bonnet.
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>> TBH I dont see the point. If they sucked the oil out the filter it
>> would be worth it, but you still have to get under the car and get
>> covered in oil changing the filter.
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Depends on the car! I was surprised when changing the filter in the Panda MJ recently, I could have done the job wearing jacket, shirt and tie, without soiling my clothes! The oil filter casing even has (in English), a marking showing which side has the drain hole to make emptying the filter a clean hands job.
For the record, the Fiat agent spares assistant was helpful, pleasant and well educated. There are 2 types of filter fitted and it is not possible to determine which one is correct until the filter body is removed. Solution, they supply both types, ( with a trade discount), and you take back the unused filter for a cash refund. Now I know, I can buy the correct filter online for half the price. (OK, maybe I should have bought both types on line and ditched the wrong one :)
Pela works well provided oil is HOT.
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Well both the cars I service are oil in the face types when changing the filter. The VW has the added feature of burning the skin off your hands on the downpipe if you do it hot.
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Got mine from Machine Mart.
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>> >>Think Fiesta !
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>> I'm thinking: www.fiesta.co.uk/
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>> :}
>> Dirty boy !
Down sir !
Ted
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Here is a good one for the anti sucker brigade, I used one until suckers were easily available.
www.quickvalve.co.uk/
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>> www.quickvalve.co.uk/
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I'll second that Navy, had one on the Hilux, didn't even need to jack her up just slide the basin under and open the valve, drink tea in the sun, lean under and shut valve when drained, bliss.
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I'd be nervous of triggering it on road debris, small branches etc, and also of small children and vandals opening it for fun. Beats letting tyres down, I imagine.
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>> I'd be nervous of triggering it on road debris, small branches etc, and also of
>> small children and vandals opening it for fun. Beats letting tyres down, I imagine.
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I used mine for about 300,000 miles without a problem, you can specify a locking clip if you are into serious off roading. I have yet to see a vandal risk getting dirty under car checking out the sump plug.
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Yes in practice i had a Jubilee clip round the Fumoto body in case of accidental or deliberate opening, always been belt and braces.
A very high quality item, never a sign of leakage.
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>>I'd be nervous of triggering it on road debris, small branches etc, and also of small children and vandals opening it for fun
I'm with this Giza!!
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I thought sucking the oil out from the top meant that none of the crud on the bottom of the sump got taken out - at least some of which would be shifted by the conventional use of the drain plug.
My indie agrees.
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A sensible concern, but one which is not borne out in practice.
Hands up everyone who uses a sucker who has then undone the sump plug to see a glug of filth soup come out?
Bueller?
Bueller??
Anything that cruddy gets taken out by the filter.
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>> I thought sucking the oil out from the top meant that none of the crud
>> on the bottom of the sump got taken out - at least some of which
>> would be shifted by the conventional use of the drain plug.
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I have been servicing my cars for nearly 50 years and have yet to have crud in my sump, It is amazing what regular oil changes will do.
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When I recently changed the oil on my 6 year old 67,000m mile Subaru which has been 'looked after' solely by a pain dealer since new, I let the old oil drain out until the very last drip (me!)
I then examined the contents of the bowl (like you do) in which I found a few small metal shavings/filings, but nothing that would have done any harm if it had stayed in the sump for another 6 years.
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I think even with serious neglect modern oils don't really do the 'black sludge' from the 1970s 20W-50 and earlier.
I'd also be wary that putting top notch oil in an engine full of cack might do more harm than good...
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>> I think even with serious neglect modern oils don't really do the 'black sludge' from
>> the 1970s 20W-50 and earlier.
Its not gone completely, my indy has shown me two MB V12's on his bench absolutely stuffed with the muck in the rocker area, bad as ever, trowel job.
The current problem is combustion blow by past Diesel injector seals on some cars, can form a lovely carbon pancake over the oil strainer, and again fills the rocker area with thick crud.
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>> I think even with serious neglect modern oils don't really do the 'black sludge' from
>> the 1970s 20W-50 and earlier.
It depends on the engine. Saab 95's and VAG 1.8T for instance. These engines do sludge up if the oil isn't changed regularly with a good synthetic. And the oil pick ups get blocked, quickly wrecking the engine.
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I was given a Silverline jobby. Never got it to work, it wouldn't hold a vacuum.
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Another vote for the Pela here. Mine's brill.
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Perennial Oil Suction Device Question. - Manatee
