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A friend has a brand new one. I've always ignored them and thought very little about them at all..................but in a slack moment I perused Autotrader to find that they are being given away, or am I out of touch price wise? They seem to make my 'Cheap' Pajero look quite expensive all things considered. Does anyone here have any experience?
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Pretty sure Manatee has one.
Same car as Peugeot 4006 and Citroen C Crosser
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Outlander - new model out therefore £3K off old model for many months - say june/july last year
CRV -Old model £4K off minimum from last June/July - still £4K off and Int Free Credit
Forester - £3K off, Int Free, 5 yr warranty - new model out in USA due here autumn
RAV 4 - lots of Irish cars around £20K - diesel manuals..............new model available March time
When I was looking mid-summer the CRV stock holding was enormous - mast have been 5,000 on an airfield somewhere - all colours/models/autos/diesel/petrols
I would think in the next month or so the advertised discounts will get BIGGER as they try to clear out the stock - even better deals bartering.
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What lets them down IMO is the lack of a proper auto Diesel, i believe in line with the Pug/Citroen rebadged Outlanders there was a dual clutch DSG type box offered.
Competent enough vehicle IMO, good simple full time 4WD system.
Expensive parts from Mitsi, little in the way of pattern parts apart from the usual suspects, local Mitsi dealer incompetent at diagnosing problems as the car dealer who supplied our 04 plate Outy is finding out....a mate had to sell on his troublesome Challenger Sport as the Mitsi dealer couldn't fix that either so a pattern is emerging.
Parts wise things like headlights, notorious for the silly plastic lenses breaking up (what idiot started fitting plastic headlamp lenses anyway, give him a slap) which are not replaceable, no pattern parts, new headlights @ £350 each to give you an idea, this older model all go like this eventually, Mitsi offer no help to customers once 3 year warranty up.
Anti roll bar/bottom wishbone links snap regularly 03 to 06 model, cheap easy fix, probably upgradeable by a competent workshop, everything else is typical Japanese in that it just works simply and reliably.
03 to 06 model is petrol only but some LPG converted from new (which we bought), i like them but they are heavy on petrol being a proper auto, will climb anything as first/reverse is low and very competent at speed on slippery rutted roads in a Forester fashion, remember petrol regd after 23rd March '06 is £470 VED!!!.
We would gladly have another despite its shortcomings, but i would be inclined to investigate Foresters more due to better parts availability...dealer/specialist back depends on whats in your area i suppose.
07 on models twinned with Pug/Cit could be worth investigating parts back up (not lights as these are different) from the two French dealers.
I delivered hundreds of the Cit/Pug equivalents with the 2.2 Diesel, better engine than the 2.0 Mitsi version IMO and very fast on road, but like the Mitsi high first and reverse gear which might not bode well for your off road antics Martin and would be a similar disadvantage for towing i would have thought.
I stalled the Mitsi versions many times whilst loading at Portbury (in common with many modern Diesels incapable of low revved lugging), but you don't thrash the taters off or abuse the clutch/drivetrain on someone elses car every time you try to move it up a hill if you take any pride in your job.
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'''but like the Mitsi high first and reverse gear which might not bode well for your off road antics Martin and would be a similar disadvantage for towing i would have thought.'''
I meant to add here that it might simply be down to how most new cars are set up, too little fuel at low revs probably to keep the all important emissions down, remap/tuning box to give it a bit more juice low down would i expect transform these vehicles, a similar fuelling tweak on an rolonoff skip loader lorry years ago turned it from a hopeless off road slug into a highly competent vehicle.
Invariably in van versions of many makes i've found the engines, often the same version as fitted to cars. to be infintely better for low rev grunt, presumably mapped to suit and being commercial VED'd not under quite the same constraints as car versions subject to CO2 based VED.
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>> I delivered hundreds of the Cit/Pug equivalents with the 2.2 Diesel, better engine than the
>> 2.0 Mitsi version IMO
Isn't it a VW engine in the Mitsubishi?
You're right about the lack of auto. Dealer I know tried to get me to try one, but, IMHO, these cars need to be auto otherwise with constant gearbox stirring they're like sriving trucks.
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>> Isn't it a VW engine in the Mitsubishi?
It used to be, but I think GB is talking about the 156 bhp PSA engine in the later models.
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2010-2012 manuals have a 2268cc Mitsubishi MIVEC diesel. The twin clutch autos have the 2179cc PSA 2.2 HDI 1ith. Confusingly, Mitsubishi called them all 2.2DID.
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>> I stalled the Mitsi versions many times whilst loading at Portbury (in common with many
>> modern Diesels incapable of low revved lugging), but you don't thrash the taters off or
>> abuse the clutch/drivetrain on someone elses car every time you try to move it up
>> a hill if you take any pride in your job.
>>
Top bloke! A nice dose of old-school decency there.
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I had a hired one for a while in the gap between fleet cars.
A bit spartan, but a well built and practical car.
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Mrs W has the Cit version (C-Crosser, or Cross Dresser as I call it to annoy her!) and loves it.
One point worth mentioning is that ours is a 57 reg, bought at 2yrs old and 15k mileage and on our first trip to France it became obvious that the clutch was slipping. Oh dear, thought I, we have bought a lemon - how can a clutch go after 15k miles? Pictures of previous owner with foot permanently on clutch, or towing huge horsebox (then removing towbar before we bought it). Did a bit of internet research and turned out that ours had the 2.2, 156HP, PSA engine which had been married to the same clutch as used for previous much less powerful VW diesel engine and couldn't cope. Took it to local dealer (not one we bought from) and he just replaced clutch with an uprated one, free - no questions. Said it was a known fault. I expect that all these have been sorted since, but might be worth checking.
One slightly dissapointing aspect is fuel consumption - 38 mpg even on long trips on French motorways (though Mrs W doesn't hang about and the 130kph (81mph) limit is a bit too low for her!
Otherwise faultless - only routine services - and has a good load area and quite nimble for everyday driving.
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HJ's 'what's bad' says ... oh forget it.
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"dissapointing"
Disappointing spelling also!
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Mitsubishi Outlander - What's on here then? - Dog
