www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/car-theft-victim-hits-out-1525135
Woman has her high powered Audi RS4 stolen. Whilst husband is out looking for it (and the police), she asks all her friends to update her on Facebook if see her car.
Lots of updates come in about sightings and through her rage, she happens to drop some comments in about what she would like to happen to the thieves. While car is still missing, police visit her, warn her about what she is putting on Facebook, and take screen shots of the comments!! Victim??
This comes on the back of a huge upshot of high powered cars being stolen in Aberdeen by a gang who are very open about it on Facebook, posting pictures of what they have taken etc etc and the police seem to be not worldly wise enough to do anything about it.
Back in 2012 one got caught after a chase where he, amongst other offences, drove down pavements. He got 200 hours community service and banned from driving for 18 months. He was 16 at the time.
www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/2854744
He has now reappeared again on another similar charge
www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/3070974
has pleaded not guilty and will go on trial later this year.
Why not try him now?
He is free to steal more cars and take people's pride and joy!
Sometimes, no most times, our legal system stinks and its total lack of urgency keeps many people in a job and our taxes funding lots of it.
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you need to post this on a website read by the people in power
try conservativehome
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>> try conservativehome
As it's in Scotland and concerns devolved matters I doubt the Tories are bothered.
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>> you need to post this on a website read by the people in power
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>> try conservativehome
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They have no power over the antics of the Plebs.
However, the newly elected Pleb and Crime Commissioners in England do have some real power over the Chief Plebs, as was confirmed in Court yesterday:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20944403
Wishful thinking on my part: It could lead to the Cheif Pleb Union (ACPO) losing some power.
Last edited by: John H on Wed 9 Jan 13 at 10:23
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Is a prosecution being considered for the Facebook comments I wonder? There's probably a target for it as "cyber bullying".
The facts she has been "given advice" and the evidence recorded suggest that if she does it again they will take some action against her.
No wonder there's so little faith in the polis.
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shocking behaviour from the police.
When they should have been out looking for the car they instead waste resources snooping on her FB page instead.
And why make such a fuss about her understandably angry rantings - its not as if she named the thieves or actually threatened them. She merely hoped they'd come to harm using the very car they stole in the first place! Hardly cyber bullying or a hate crime.
Sounds like another story of the victim/perpetrator roles being reversed.
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Quite frankly she is being a stupid flan by raging on Facebook like that
Damage is done now she will be a target by every scroat for years
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Would argue she deserves to have the car torched for (a) owning an RS4 and (b) having a crap private plate on it.
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>> deserves to have the car torched for (a) owning an RS4
Touch of envy FF? Perhaps not in your case, but what is wrong with the RS4? Has it got some hidden flaw, or do you just think it's a jalopy unsuitable for ladies?
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Giving your missus a car with your own initials on the plate = Knob.
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>> Giving your missus a car with your own initials on the plate = Knob.
The stories refer to "his" Audi and "my" (her) Range Rover.
It's just a number plate, which doesn't appear to have been made in italics, or misspaced, or to have a football club crest on it, not really the full Knob profile?
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"LESLEY ROSS was incensed when she discovered her top-of-the-range Audi had been stolen from her home and torched"
I must admit I largely skimmed the article, but it's from the Daily Record so you can't blame me.
I didn't note any reference to the Audi being 'his' car but it doesn't really matter because it brought Mr You-is-just-jelus out as I expected it to.
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Trolling for trolls eh Lygonos ;-)
Naughty doctor.
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>> Giving your missus a car with your own initials on the plate = Knob.
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et tu Lygonos - politics of envy as per FF.
sale of prat plates = a few pennies for offsetting the cost of the NHS.
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>> et tu Lygonos - politics of envy as per FF.
Politics of envy again huh.
Is that your answer to everything?
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>> >> et tu Lygonos - politics of envy as per FF.
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>> Politics of envy again huh.
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>> Is that your answer to everything?
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Yes, as I have told you previously. Even if some people find it hard to accept the truth.
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>> >> >> et tu Lygonos - politics of envy as per FF.
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>> >> Politics of envy again huh.
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>> >> Is that your answer to everything?
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>> Yes, as I have told you previously. Even if some people find it hard to
>> accept the truth.
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The truth? Your own prejudices are showing, actually.
The truth is that critising someone's bad taste over their choice of a tacky private number plate is not "the politics of envy" per se. These plates often appear on very cheap cars. Lygonos never mentioned the make or model of car in his post.
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>> Lygonos never mentioned the make or model of car in his post
It's a lovely car, and if some scroats has stolen mine and torched it I'd be peeing flames too.
Even worse because my precious BE57 DOC numberplate would've been burnt too.
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>> Even worse because my precious BE57 DOC numberplate would've been burnt too.
I'm sure it would be alright. You could have N33 DLE to fall back on.
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>>et tu Lygonos - politics of envy as per FF.
Politics of envy is certainly a more common feature than I would like it to be, but Lygonos doesn't seem the type.
I think he may have been aiming at the labelling and ownership implicit in using your own initials, rather than the idea of a personalized plate in and of itself.
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>>Politics of envy is certainly a more common feature than I would like it to be, but Lygonos doesn't seem the type.
I dare say it's a common affliction but I'm well aware of the hard work put in by the vast majority of very high earners, and the level of risk (sometimes foolhardy) that they take - I think the envy comes in when people think other have acquired their 'ill-gotten gain' by sheer luck or bare-faced exploitation of others.
I'm lucky - I haven't done a scrap of work in over 40 years and get paid £££££ by the Exchequer to play golf every afternoon.
Meh.
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>> Politics of envy is certainly a more common feature than I would like it to
>> be, but Lygonos doesn't seem the type.
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Hence use of "et tu", perhaps I should have added a question mark or exclamation mark to indicate my surprise at Lygonos resorting to name-calling when someone spends their loadsamoney on buying/displaying a perfectly legal number plate.
>> I think he may have been aiming at the labelling and ownership implicit in using
>> your own initials, rather than the idea of a personalized plate in and of itself.
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Ricky bought a number plate ending RKY.
Don't see how that justifies calling him "knob".
For the avoidance of doubt, I have never bought/displayed a "personalised" number plate.
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>>Hence use of "et tu", perhaps I should have added a question mark or exclamation mark to indicate my surprise
As I should have perhaps added a smiley to denote humourous intent rather than feverish jealousy.
ummmm...
:-)
Bah there ye go!
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>> Bah there ye go!
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Life is full of misunderstandings (and politics of envy!). :)
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“We have dog flap, just an over-sized catflap, for the dog"
And they're surprised their house was screwed. Insurance company may be unhappy with that
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The antics of these scumbags, and their Facebook boastings, together with the complete lack of interest from Grampian Police were well documented on another forum I visit. One member had his year old BMW stolen by these people, where it became their Facebook cover picture for several weeks, and was then found with so much engine and cosmetic damage, that it was written off.
No action was ever taken by the police in respect of this particular vehicle that I am aware of, despite enough evidence on the Facebook page not only to identify two of the perps but, with a bit of digging, one of their addresses as well.
I think this thread ties in nicely with the 'which other country' thread. There is an entire underclass in this country who not only see the property of "posh" (i.e. working) people as fair game, but can repeatedly act on it with impunity.
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It's the Scots : preparing for independence...
Back to border raids and large scale thievery which is what they did when last independent.
:-)
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The reivers live on, unrestrained by the rule of law and order, same as in the 13th Century when they started work!
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In those kind of circumstances it's only a matter of time before we start seeing the word "vigilante" appearing in the news.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's a tick in it somewhere - Facebook bully traced and advised.
Or perhaps we have underestimated the McRozzers - they are hoping the perps will call in the try and get compo?
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I had a Capri 2.8 that colour once...Moonstone Blue/Grey.
What a sad reflection on our society, but all too often these scumbags get up to these actions. I keep the spare key for my car safely locked away, and take my bunch upstairs at night.
Surely there must be some DNA in the car, its not completely burnt out, or is it?
I have similar sentiments as the victim. Only ten times worse.
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It occurs to me that Fursty Ferret, who has I seem to remember quite a classy motor himself, thinks it is foolish to own an Audi RS4 because it is bound to be a toerag magnet (as the Sierra Cosworth was always said to be... people claimed there was hardly a single example that hadn't been nicked and used as a getaway car for bank robberies, perhaps a bit alarmist I always thought).
I agree up to a point. But rebadging, glamour-free wheels and a bit of cosmetic foxing should offset that quite well. Some sort of simple radio tracker just in case...
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“We have dog flap, just an over-sized catflap, for the dog"
And they're surprised their house was screwed. Insurance company may be unhappy with that
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I wonder if the dog has been questioned under caution.
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Some of the comments at the bottom of the Daily Record article beggar belief:
"Top of the range audi.......new range rover......other car !!! Booo hooo for you !"
"about 100k worth of cars in that driveway, not bad for a 27 year old... Wonder what they do for a living ??"
Thankfully outnumbered by the supportive ones, but too many people see this kind of thing as understandable or even warranted if it's against someone they perceive to be better off than they are.
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We need people like that to keep spending while I batten down the hatches! Only a shame it wasn't a Jag to go with the Range Rover.
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Plenty of good oil industry jobs in Aberdeen and it has a fairly strong service sector in law and accountancy as a result... and plenty who buy upmarket brand cars.
Reckon I have seen more Lambo/911/Ferraris there than Edinburgh or Glasgow.
Daily Record is the Scots equivalent of the Sun (higher than the Star, lower than the Telegraph) so treat the sensationalism and colloquialisms accordingly.
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Do you know Lygonos if Aberdeen still prides itself on speaking the purest, clearest English in the entire kingdom? That used to be one of its claims to fame. Perhaps more among these lawyers and accountants, and even more among their secretaries and typists, than among kipper fishermen and oilfield roughnecks one supposes...
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Since many of the inhabitants come from the East coast and Edinburgh this might be true, but the native "Doric" dialect is sometimes a mystery even to me:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNN6NigGNM
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>> Do you know Lygonos if Aberdeen still prides itself on speaking the purest, clearest English
>> in the entire kingdom?
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Being on the coast, they don't suffer from "vertigo" that befalls the Highlanders. :)
I jest, but your point also holds true about French in Quebec, Canada. Those who leave the homeland tend not to keep up with the developing language in the former homeland.
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>> Those who leave the homeland tend not to keep up with the developing language in the former homeland.
They were native Aberdonians who hadn't left home JH. I think what they were proud of was an exceptionally clear pronunciation of English words without any slovenly slurs, elisions and so on.
Lygonos's funny clip is really about gaelic name spellings though, and a suggestive barking of the name Farquhar... the irascible fellow was quite comprehensible otherwise. Great performance by the bank Tracey too...
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>> Those who leave the homeland tend not to keep up with the developing language in the former homeland.
not just the language - tend not to keep up with the developing home culture either (good or bad!).
You even see it in areas of expat communities in mainland europe - after a period of only 10 years or so. MH, does this show it self in Austria?
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In Aberdeen there are extremes of wealth & poverty.
Wealth - Fish boat owners and Oil Industry & Suppliers to oil + Accts/Lawyers.
Engineers in say mid late 30's, many making £750-£1,000 & up to £1, 500 in a speciality area of say engineering where there is a strong demand and few people....these are the day rates for contractors NOT weekly or monthly
The Audi/Merc/BMW/Porsche garages do well.
At the other end of the scale there are huge, very poor Council estates with unemployment and drug problems. I know a teacher in an inner city primary - poverty, drug addiction/alcoholism and prostitution afflicts probably 1/3 of the school roll.
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>> It occurs to me that Fursty Ferret, who has I seem to remember quite a
>> classy motor himself, thinks it is foolish to own an Audi RS4 because it is
>> bound to be a toerag magnet (as the Sierra Cosworth was always said to be...
>> people claimed there was hardly a single example that hadn't been nicked and used as
>> a getaway car for bank robberies, perhaps a bit alarmist I always thought).
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I'm sure I read it's the most stolen car per unit sold.
I know someone through work who sold his after the second time he was mugged for it - he didn't think it was worth dying for.
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>> I read it's the most stolen car per unit sold.
Sad really. It was obviously a terrific projectile although I remember allegations of wayward cornering.
Of course you could stick a heavily tweaked Pinto engine in an Escort van and have something much more surprising and nearly as quick.
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The mail has noticed the story at last. :-)
tinyurl.com/b8q24ck
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Aberdeen car crime - police response - retgwte
