Motoring Discussion > Rear View.	Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Ted	Replies: 42

Sat 15 Sep 12 00:05   Rear View. - Ted

I've taken delivery of 3 brand new Yarises this week, all automatwatic hybrids with sat-nav. We already have a couple on the fleet so I've given them all a few miles......nice cars. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed that, when you engage backwards gear, the scene to the rear shows up on the sat-nav screen......sounds good. I made a mental note and tucked it into my diminishing memory bank. On Monday, I took one of the new ones into the city and had to reverse up to the front of one of our Fiestas in the double bay. It was about 5ft away. I casually looked at the sat-nav and the damn gap looked to be about 20 ft. I ignored it and did a close reverse using a shop window...my preferred method if available. I wonder how many owners will be caught out by this, giving the car an extra touch of gas to cover the distance......which isn't there ! I imagine colour coded rear bumpers may become an ' in-stock ' item in future at the dealers ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 00:35   Rear View. - Armel Coussine

Surely the car starts shouting urgently when you approach something Ted? Mine does and it's twelve years old. I briefly drove a diesel Citroen C4 a couple of years ago now. It had a rearview camera when reverse was engaged, a fisheye lens view at an angle down through the rear screen. That seemed very good. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 09:50   Rear View. - Mike Hannon

Isn't there something wrong with car design now, in that rear vision is so hopeless in many makes and models? I find it a real pain (literally sometimes) to see out and many potential next cars have been dropped from my 'short'list for this reason. A few years ago I drove a Bentley Continental R - nearly 18ft long - and reversed it round a narrow dog-leg into the owner's drive (he was sitting beside me!) with no trouble at all. Now you can't see out the back of something the size of a Clio estate. My brother's girlfriend has a new RR Evoque. You can't see a darn thing behind or to the rear quarters and it has 11 - yes 11! - cameras. Bonkers. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 10:05   Rear View. - L'escargot

>> Isn't there something wrong with car design now, in that rear vision is so hopeless >> in many makes and models? It's compensated for by having rear proximity sensors. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 11:48   Rear View. - swiss tony

>> >> Isn't there something wrong with car design now, in that rear vision is so >> hopeless in many makes and models? >> >> It's compensated for by having rear proximity sensors. Equally, lack of front and side vision, are covered by airbags....... Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 11:50   Rear View. - Zero

>> lack of front and side vision, are covered by airbags....... Only when you hit something and they go off. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 11:52   Rear View. - swiss tony

>> >> lack of front and side vision, are covered by airbags....... >> >> Only when you hit something and they go off. >> My point exactly.... If you don't see something, as is more likely with thicker pillars, and less glass to look though, then you are more likely to hit, or be hit by it...... (on a motorcycle, a glance over ones shoulder is known as a 'lifesaver' I do that in cars as well... well cars that have enough vision to so it....) Last edited by: swiss tony on Sat 15 Sep 12 at 11:54 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 12:20   Rear View. - tyro

Doing a bit of extrapolation, I'm guessing that in 20 years time, there will be no rear windows in cars - just cameras linked to screens on the dashboard. In 40 years time, cars will no longer need any glass. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 12:30   Rear View. - CGNorwich

"In 40 years time, cars will no longer need any glass." Interesting idea. When you think about it the same thing could be done with houses. Grotty urban view of the neighbouring factory? Replace the windows with superb high definition screens showing a live video stream of some beautiful countryside instead. You could live in the virtual countryside. Be a bit of a jolt when you went out but people probably won't bother with the real world in a few years Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 14:00   Rear View. - Ted

There wasn't any noise from any of the Yarises so maybe no sensors.......or they needed activating ? I was having a coffee at one of our local bistros while having an MOT done. The place is in a row of about 12 shops with a Victorian canopy along the front.....ideal for small eateries...as indeed most of them are. His was the only one open in the morning and I commented how the parade looked like downtown Beirut with all the roller shutters down. We both wondered if a good wheeze would be to have a sturdy roller blind with images of various shop fronts to be pulled down after the steel shutter. A bit like the garage door decorations. It would certainly improve the look of the whole place. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 14:02   Rear View. - L'escargot

>> I've taken delivery of 3 brand new Yarises ........ Some people say that the plural of Yaris is Yaris' ........... tinyurl.com/99hby46 Me, I'm staying out of it! Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 14:11   Rear View. - Ted

Hmmm...I did torture my brain before I decided of my version, Les. Reading some of the posts there I still don't know. Would anyone write ' I was waiting for a bus and two bus' came along ' ? I would write Buses. An apostrophe seems to me to be for a possessive or when a letter/s are omitted. Ammunition for another thread to degenerate into pedancy. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 15:30   Rear View. - L'escargot

>> Me, I'm staying out of it! >> Well, after consulting a higher authority I just couldn't stay out of it any longer any longer! Ted was right. It's Yarises. grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/plurals.htm Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 14:50   Rear View. - Ian (Cape Town)

>> >> I've taken delivery of 3 brand new Yarises ... It >> was about 5ft away. I casually looked at the sat-nav and the damn gap looked >> to be about 20 ft. Ted, does it not have those colour-coded 'tennis court' superimposed on the screen? Green, yellow and red sectors. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 14:57   Rear View. - Ted

Don't know, Ian. I only gave it a glimpse, saw it was telling me porkies and resorted to the old methods. I'll have a proper looksee next time I'm in one. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 15:01   Rear View. - Ian (Cape Town)

The decent ones also have a predictive function - the 'tennis court' swings on the screen as you turn the wheel, showing you where the car will be heading. Takes some getting used to, I must admit. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 15:36   Rear View. - Runfer D'Hills

Can't say it bothers me. Spent years driving estate cars full to the roof with work stuff so usually couldn't see out of either the rear, or indeed rear side windows. No bleepy things to help either. You just have to learn how to best position and use your door mirrors and also retain some memory of the dimensions of your car/vehicle. I expect it's the same with vans and trucks too, except they are mostly bigger of course. Even my wife can park a Transit van inch perfect using the door mirrors, and if she can do it... C'mon peeps, getteth thee the grippingtons ! :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 16:40   Rear View. - Dog

It amazes me when I see a geezer reversing a Pantechnicon into a very tight space or loading bay. No woman could ever do something like that though, they have enough trouble parking a jamjar. :-} Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:04   Rear View. - Ted

You tread a dangerous road, me ole mate ! I expect Old Mother Patsy will be along to tear your virtual genitals off soon ! Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:09   Rear View. - Dog

It's OK Teddy, the lady is out glamping again this weekend. :} Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:07   Rear View. - NortonES2

Oh dear. Very rash. House of correction for you, very soon:) Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:16   Rear View. - Ted

Tinned beans and sausages for poor Mr PDA, then. Ted Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:31   Rear View. - Dog

www.heinz.co.uk/ourfood/beans/beanmeals/beanz-with-pork-sausages :-( Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:33   Rear View. - bathtub tom

From her self-confessed culinary skills, he may find that a gourmet choice. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 18:16   Rear View. - Zero

>> From her self-confessed culinary skills, he may find that a gourmet choice. Yeah, he might even think she is buttering him up for something. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 16 Sep 12 08:49   Rear View. - Pat

I'm up for the challenge if you are:) I'll reverse an artic with a 45' trailer up to a wall within a half an inch and you can do it in your car Dog! ...just don't ask me to do it in the Mondeo:( Pat Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 16 Sep 12 10:04   Rear View. - Dog

This was one of my regular deliveries back in 70's when I had to reverse my TK down the alley with literally inches to spare each side + it was on the busy junction of Old St. and Goswell Rd. I'd have an art attack if I had to do it now though :) goo.gl/maps/z0jFw Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 16 Sep 12 10:12   Rear View. - Dog

Actually, it may have been a CF Luton when I think about it, the 1970's were a looong time ago! Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:32   Rear View. - L'escargot

>> Spent years driving estate cars ............. What about when you drove shooting brakes? ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:44   Rear View. - Runfer D'Hills

I'm not that old L'es ! Although, if I thought people wouldn't snigger and make onanist comments I'd quite like to refer to my" Large Estate Car" as a shooting brake. But they would. They really would.... :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 17:50   Rear View. - swiss tony

>> I'm not that old L'es ! Although, if I thought people wouldn't snigger and make onanist comments I'd quite like to refer to my" Large Estate Car" as a shooting brake. But they would. They really would.... Chop it in for this..... www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mercedes-benz-cls-shooting-brake-revealed-2012-06-30 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 18:02   Rear View. - Runfer D'Hills

I think I've just had an accident. That is bleedin' gorgeous ! :-) Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 18:15   Rear View. - Zero

That looks so much like the Laguna* Tourer from the A post backwards. *Thats a Renault BTW humph. Last edited by: Zero on Sat 15 Sep 12 at 18:17 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 18:18   Rear View. - Runfer D'Hills

Shudder....NURSE ?!!!! My pills... Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 19:18   Rear View. - Cliff Pope

All this makes me glad my cut-off date for ever considering a car purchase is 1992. I don't care what desirable features later cars may have, I'm happy with: 1) Proper profiled tyres that give a comfortable ride 2) Windscreens I can see out of 3) Space inside to swing more than a cat 4) Easy access to all mechanical components, of a design I can usually fix myself 6) No depreciation Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 19:30   Rear View. - Zero

Well I may well interest you in my best of all worlds, 2007 lancer. If I can be parted from it. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 19:37   Rear View. - Runfer D'Hills

He's not quite that past it yet. Alright for those who queue at post offices on Thursdays and so on... Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 19:40   Rear View. - Zero

>> He's not quite that past it yet. Alright for those who queue at post offices >> on Thursdays and so on... Sounds to me like he has acquired, through experience, a discerning motoring palate. Not swayed by flashy lights and bling, IYKWIM Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 20:10   Rear View. - Mike H

>> I think I've just had an accident. That is bleedin' gorgeous ! >> And you perhaps think the Juke is kinda cute as well? With such tiny windows and so much metal, it's going to be hearse-like inside. C'mon, it's not going to win any beauty contests :-) Each to his own. Last edited by: Mike H on Sat 15 Sep 12 at 20:12 Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 15 Sep 12 20:30   Rear View. - Dog

>>C'mon, it's not going to win any beauty contests :-)<< I wouldn't swop my 08 Lancer Estate for it (and I mean that most sincerely folks) Reply to this message | Report message       1

Sun 16 Sep 12 07:26   Rear View. - L'escargot

>> Although, if I thought people wouldn't snigger and make >> onanist comments ............. You mean pertaining to Onan, son of Judah (Gen. xxxviii.9), who spilled his seed on the ground? Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 17 Sep 12 07:57   Rear View. - TeeCee

>> It was about 5ft away. I casually looked at the sat-nav and the damn gap looked to be about 20 ft. The rear view camera used in the Toyota system has a fisheye lens to provide a wide angle of view. Things look a lot further away than they are, but that's purely your assumption that the picture on the screen should be the same as that seen with your eyes at work. It's the same picture showing the same distance, using a different lens than the one you have in your eye. You have cue lines (the red one tells you that you can still get behind the thing and open the tail when it's against the object behind) and you can also see the bumper at the bottom of the screen. Thus you can tell exactly how far away you are from whatever's behind you. The apparent distance in the picture is immaterial. Edit: Can't resist the obvious cheesy gag. I have a fleet Prius with the same camera system. Since I got it, I haven't looked back.......... Last edited by: TeeCee on Mon 17 Sep 12 at 07:59 Reply to this message | Report message

Mon 17 Sep 12 09:04   Rear View. - Ted

HeeHee, TeeCee.......It's not easy to look back in a Prius. Why the need for a spoiler half way up the back window ? Ted Reply to this message | Report message