www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19354209
"Mann has ascertained that only registered garages have access to sophisticated equipment to steal locking wheel nuts but fears that keys for such security systems may be reproducible."
Whom is he trying to fool? Most garages can undo locking wheel nuts and the knowledge and equipment is freely available.
The MP claims to have researched it: he clearly has not.
www.screwfix.com/p/laser-emergency-locking-wheel-nut-remover-set-4pcs/94826
Words fail me.
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The other that stands out is that he has wheels with hub caps(ie usually steel wheels) and therefore does not have locking wheels nuts as alloys do.
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>>Mann has ascertained that only registered garages have access to sophisticated equipment to steal locking wheel nuts but fears that keys for such security systems may be reproducible."
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>>Whom is he trying to fool? Most garages can undo locking wheel nuts and the knowledge and equipment is freely available.
>>The MP claims to have researched it: he clearly has not.
www.screwfix.com/p/laser-emergency-locking-wheel-nut-remover-set-4pcs/
94826
>>Words fail me.
>>The other that stands out is that he has wheels with hub caps(ie usually steel wheels) and therefore does not have locking wheels nuts as alloys do.
Well I too have researched the subject.
The tool in the link does NOT work on many locking wheel nuts.
A couple of alternatives are hammering on a socket or welding on a lump of steel so that other tools have a purchase.
On my daughters Yaris the stud was drilled out and then replaced because they key was not strong enough.
Jaguar X Type nuts are a real PITA - see any Jaguar forum
The keys split. Jaguar will not supply replacements ( only about 25 variants) but want many ££s for a new set but Rover use the same key.and IIRC will supply replacements
My 98 Mondeo has standard Ford alloys with large centre caps that cover the wheel nuts.
It certainly seems strange that a cap would have been replaced after wheel nuts loosened.
I would explore if the car had recently been surviced, tyres replaced or had a puncture.
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He didn't realise the wheels were loose??????
He must be an idiot!
The car would have been shaking itself to bits, and handling like a knackered supermarket trolley!
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>> He didn't realise the wheels were loose??????
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>> He must be an idiot!
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He is a Labour MP.
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When I was a student some "friends" loosened the nuts on my Austin A30's front wheel. (yes I AM old).
It was painfully obvious something was wrong at 40mph so I stopped and checked: rattling and vibration being key...
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Some more info
From the Sun
"The wheels had been stripped of their wheel nuts and all 4 locking nuts had been removed from each of the tyres. "
It must be true cos The Guardian also says
"A Labour MP drove 200 miles without wheel nuts on his car tyres."
and "The wheel hubs had been replaced to hide the theft"
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>> "The wheels had been stripped of their wheel nuts and all 4 locking nuts had
>> been removed from each of the tyres. "
Locking nuts on the tyres, eh ! Wonder how that works.
The man sounds a complete bottom. I hope his wheels were 5 studs 'cos he wouldn't have got it out of his drive with the wheels still on.
One stud and maybe 50 yds ! I guess a wheel's been off and the spannerman hasn't tightened up properly.....A non-existant publicity seeking crisis.....blame M15, The Mormons, NKVD, Kim Sung Onion......anybody !
This shower of nuggins rule over us...we'd do better with the Beverly Hillbillies .
Diddums !
Ted
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There are some alloys with centre covers which cover the wheel bolt heads, for example:
Audi A6: upthear.se/audia6
Audi A8: upthear.se/audia8
Bentley: upthear.se/bentley
But... his car must have had studs and nuts. If it had had bolts the wheel would have fallen off after a couple of corners.
A mate once bought a Mini which had the nuts loose on one wheel. He stopped as soon as he felt the steering wasn't right and discovered all four nuts had come off and were rattling around inside the tiny chrome hubcap.
Oh, and SW1A to Bassetlaw is only 150 miles :)
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>> There are some alloys with centre covers which cover the wheel bolt heads, for example:
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>> Audi A6: upthear.se/audia6
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>> Audi A8: upthear.se/audia8
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>> Bentley: upthear.se/bentley
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To add another - some Skoda Octavias.
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>He must be an idiot!
"Mr Mann is an outspoken member of the Treasury Select Committee who has grabbed headlines in recent months with his robust questioning of senior bankers and government ministers."
He seems to have wheel problems. He also failed to notice the wheels coming off the economy when Gollum was in the driving seat.
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>> >He must be an idiot!
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>> "Mr Mann is an outspoken member of the Treasury Select Committee who has grabbed headlines
>> in recent months with his robust questioning of senior bankers and government ministers."
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>> He seems to have wheel problems. He also failed to notice the wheels coming off
>> the economy when Gollum was in the driving seat.
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ROFL
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>>A mate once bought a Mini which had the nuts loose on one wheel. He stopped as soon as he felt the steering wasn't right and discovered all four nuts had come off and were rattling around inside the tiny chrome hubcap.<<
The same thing happened to me in a Triumph Herald years ago that had recently been serviced. I was travelling at about 35 mph when suddenly there was loud rattling noise, so I hastily applied the brakes and brought the car to a stop, but not before the front nearside wheel became detached and carried on down the road for another 100 yards or so, with me in hot pursuit.
Fortunately there was no damage to my car, nor to those heading in the opposite direction, but I didn't 'alf feel a twit!
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I have seen 3 cars lose there front wheel in my time (the third time while I was driving behind and about 60 secs after I said to my passenger "Last time I saw one of those it's wheel fell off")
They were all Talbot Horizons, fortunately all travelling at town speeds.
Presumbaly a hub issue rather than wheel nuts.
Obviously this story does nothing to investigate the issue, but simply blurts out the MPs poorly researched thoughts.
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According to my Telegraph this morning it was an 11 year old Citroen he was driving but did not say what model it was.....
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>> According to my Telegraph this morning it was an 11 year old Citroen he was
>> driving but did not say what model it was.....
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The Wail says it was a 12 year old Picasso.
We have a right to be told the truth!
Read and see the man and his car and his wheel brace
Now nearly 170 miles with no wheel nuts. Is this a new world record :-(
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-19362865
Enjoy !
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>> Read and see the man and his car and his wheel brace
>> Now nearly 170 miles with no wheel nuts. Is this a new world record :-(
>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-19362865
What a load of rubbish! The report said all 16 wheel nuts had been stolen. For a start the video showed that they were bolts, not nuts. Also 3 of the 4 bolts shown were clearly old, and only one had been renewed.
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>>They were all Talbot Horizons, fortunately all travelling at town speeds.
A dark blue one near Basingstoke ? That would have been me.
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The first thing I do after I've had my car serviced is check all the wheel bolt torques. It takes all of five minutes.
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He's our local MP and his strap-line is "Mann of the people", He is also a loud-mouthed twit.
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>> The first thing I do after I've had my car serviced is check all the
>> wheel bolt torques. It takes all of five minutes.
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Yep, you can't trust those main dealers. :-)
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>> >> The first thing I do after I've had my car serviced is check all
>> >> the wheel bolt torques. It takes all of five minutes.
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>> Yep, you can't trust those main dealers. :-)
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Touche, CGN! Clever!
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>> >> The first thing I do after I've had my car serviced is check all
>> the
>> >> wheel bolt torques. It takes all of five minutes.
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>> Yep, you can't trust those main dealers. :-)
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I would do it as soon as possible no matter where my car had been serviced ~ even sooner if it had been serviced at one of your beloved back street independents!
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>> I would do it as soon as possible no matter where my car had been
>> serviced ~ even sooner if it had been serviced at one of your beloved back
>> street independents!
I knew someone who had a front wheel come off while he was driving on the motorway. I think the car overturned. The car had recently been serviced, and I think he took the garage to court. Clearly contrary to what some here have said, he did not notice vibration, or at least not enough to make him pull over.
I think I would trust a good independent more than many main dealers, but by all accounts garages are in general not a byword for quality and honesty. A bit like builders, in more ways than one.
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This makes no sense at all, which makes this politician a publicity seeking moron.
Must be a tautology there somewhere.
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>> This makes no sense at all, which makes this politician a ........... moron.
Do you mean a person of borderline intelligence in a classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69?
Last edited by: L'escargot on Fri 24 Aug 12 at 15:39
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>> Do you mean a person of borderline intelligence in a classification of mental retardation, having
>> an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69?
No, that was his somewhat smarter brother.
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This article made the Jeremy Vine show on R2 today, with the MP contributing. The two most important questions that weren't asked were 1) Where was it parked when the "sabotage" occurred, and 2) Had the car had any work done recently which entailed removing the wheels, who did it and when. Instead they took half-a-dozen phone calls from numpties who'd had jealous exes loosen their wheelnuts out of malice and wrapped the article up at that.
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Fri 24 Aug 12 at 22:28
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The Jerry Vine show should be put in the same bin as Steve Wright. A bigger pair of Male pointy parts it would be impossible to meet. Mindless questions meets mindless waffle. Thank someone for Radio 4, but of course that will be diluted with time.
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Vine just disagrees with whoever he's talking to. Not even inelligently, he adds little beyond "no it isn't" and "oh yes it is".
Steve Wright is appalling. His ego is unreal; the "Big" show, that self-congratulatory music before the news etc. etc. [spit]
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Vine was questioning why there was going to be a Post Mortem on a woman who died suddenly running a marathon. I think his brain is in neutral sometimes.
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He should stick to Eggheads!
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I take it Mr Vine is a presenter then? For shows for those with low IQs - rather like Big Brother but worse?
:-)
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I interviewed Vine a few weeks ago when he was awarded an honorary degree by Durham University.
Never heard his programme, but he was very affable and co-operative, which not all subjects are.
He had some proper news training on the Coventry Evening Telegraph, so should be capable of being a bit more than just a talking head when it comes to dealing with a story.
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Labour MP 's wheels almost fell off... - Videodoctor
