http://www.car4play.com/forum Car4play forum en-gb Fri, 03 Apr 2026 20:50:03 +0100 Copyright: Car4play webmaster@car4play.com (Technical) 5 car4play687671 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 20:50:03 +0100 My neighbour runs his garage (a domestic one, not a forecourt!!) - freezer, lights, power tools - using V2L from his Kia. I think the wiring is probably a bit bodged but we haven't exploded yet LOL My MG also has V2L and I bought the adapter but, like many bits of tech I own, I've no idea when I might use it. Maybe when I go for my annual 2 nights camping in August. I have another bit of kit I bought years ago and never used much - one of those multi power fridges. Cold beer for a change maybe this year!! http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687671&v=e car4play687651 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:53:11 +0100 >> My Ioniq6 has a 240v 3 pin socket so I can use it to run >> the house (max 3.6kW) during the blackouts...>> Really? Apparently the car converts the domestic charging AC to DC for the battery, and then back to around 400 - 800v AC depending on the model, but is there a separate inverter for the 240v AC output supply? If so, a few more solar panels (we have 14 which generates as much as we use annually) plus perhaps an additional battery pack could enable an off grid existence! http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687651&v=e car4play687649 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:27:40 +0100 >> >> My Ioniq6 has a 240v 3 pin socket so I can use it to run >> the house (max 3.6kW) during the blackouts... >> If the car is fitted with an inverter to deliver 240v you can plug household appliances in. Getting car to power the house - lighting, TVs, kettle etc is a different ball game - it needs: - a connection into the consumer unit to feed the house electrical circuits, and - to be isolated from the grid - or grid will be live and battery flattened by neighbours demand http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687649&v=e car4play687646 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 12:44:02 +0100 My Ioniq6 has a 240v 3 pin socket so I can use it to run the house (max 3.6kW) during the blackouts... http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687646&v=e car4play687640 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 11:30:30 +0100 Ahh yes, luckily my EV has one too :-) http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687640&v=e car4play687628 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 09:02:03 +0100 They have things called batteries. You can charge them when the power is back on. Neat idea eh?. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687628&v=e car4play687626 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 08:49:56 +0100 "Just get an EV :-)" Yeah but what if the miners go on strike and we get a three day week and rolling blackouts again? :-) http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687626&v=e car4play687625 Fri, 03 Apr 2026 08:34:13 +0100 Just get an EV :-) http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687625&v=e car4play687623 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 23:18:38 +0100 > The least damaging way to survive threatened fuel shortages is to stick to your normal buying habits, so that suppliers can continue their usual delivery patterns. Filling your tank whenever possible is [a] grabbing the stuff before someone else does and [b] trying to save a fraction of a pound before the price rises. Not behaviour to be publicly proud of ? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687623&v=e car4play687621 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 21:58:56 +0100 >>It may be folk like you are the problem! Exactly. The folk like me will be the problem whether I join them or not. It could be described as a natural law. Without active regulation, the common will always be overgrazed, the fishing grounds will always be overfished, and natural resources will be exhausted as fast as they can be extracted even if - especially if - their preservation is essential to life. I only have a reserve of 20 litres, the maximum legal quantity to store privately in plastic containers, and I needed to buy 5 litres for the lawn mower anyway:) http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687621&v=e car4play687619 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 20:59:10 +0100 >> the rational thing to do in the current circumstances is to >> get whatever fuel you can legally store while it's available unless you can suspend using >> it for an indefinite period. I'm keeping all the cars at least half full and >> I've just filled a couple of 10 litre plastic fuel containers with petrol. >> Clearly if we were all only to buy fuel as we needed it >> The only stock outs we have seen so far have been caused by rational people >> tankering more than usual. >>It's not panic to maintain a full tank when supplies are threatened, It may be folk like you are the problem! I filled my car a week ago, as it was nearing empty, like I usually do. I haven't bought any more since, in cans or otherwise. If the stuff's not available, then I'll have to consider other transport options. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687619&v=e car4play687616 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 18:29:47 +0100 It's not panic to maintain a full tank when supplies are threatened, it's common sense unless there is a system for organising fair distribution. For the first time I am wondering if we should have bought an EV! The orange baboon is destroying his country and the global economy. And they are letting him do it, presumably because they are all getting rich. They might as well not have the 25th Amendment if they are never going to use it. The Founding Fathers did not foresee that such a crook would have installed a thoroughly corrupt administration. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687616&v=e car4play687614 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 18:05:33 +0100 Fuel stocks on forecourts typically cover 2-3 days demand. If, instead of buying fuel as the tank nears empty, motorists fully fill when the gauge falls to half, average fuel held in the tank will increase from ~35% to ~75% full. Assuming an average fuel tank holds a usable 40 litres, increasing the fuel held in the tank by 40% is an extra 16L giving a range of ~160 miles - about a weeks average usage. If the extra fuel were demanded during a single week (typical of panic buying) demand for that week would double. Evident dry forecourts would increase the panic. Even if adequate stocks of fuel are held in refineries and distribution sites, additional demand could not be delivered as tankers and drivers are managed to meet normal demand levels, not double. Hence government messaging "nothing to see here", "nowt to worry about" - panic feeds on the perception of shortages. Whether there really is a problem downstream is another matter. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687614&v=e car4play687611 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 17:07:23 +0100 I can't imagine panic buying really makes that much difference, other than a brief short term shortage maybe. If a low mileage driver tops up his half full tank then it's be longer than usual before he refills it anyway. Any a high mileage driver would be regularly filling up anyway. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687611&v=e car4play687610 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 16:32:20 +0100 There is clearly a container in that bag, it would be all over the place otherwise and the car would be full of petrol vapour with the driver passing out, and practically a bomb. As for selfish - the rational thing to do in the current circumstances is to get whatever fuel you can legally store while it's available unless you can suspend using it for an indefinite period. I'm keeping all the cars at least half full and I've just filled a couple of 10 litre plastic fuel containers with petrol. It's little enough but I've a trip to the west country coming up and I'm making sure I'll be able to get home. Clearly if we were all only to buy fuel as we needed it there would be less chance of the fuel stations running out. But this is the unavoidable tragedy of the commons, unless rationing is introduced instantly. The only stock outs we have seen so far have been caused by rational people tankering more than usual. I'm sure the retailers will be grabbing all they can while it's available. The interruption in supply from the Gulf has not yet reached us, but it's about to. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687610&v=e car4play687607 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 12:34:08 +0100 I saw this on social media and assumed that it was just yet another set up video for likes. Certainly the one I saw had no proof that a petrol pump had actually been near the bag? You just saw her bending down to the bag at the start? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687607&v=e car4play687605 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 12:03:51 +0100 She’s doing something odd but I don’t think she is putting petrol straight into plastic bags. The bag she appears to have filled doesn’t balloon out as you’d expect and she is then able to slide the bags along the boot floor in a way you couldn’t if these were unsupported open bags. I reckon there are containers inside the bags but it still looks hazardous. http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687605&v=e car4play687603 Thu, 02 Apr 2026 11:42:51 +0100 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/selfish-brit-fills-up-sainsbury-s-bags-with-petrol-and-puts-them-open-into-car-boot/vi-AA1ZW3UN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=69ce4466bac44de1bdc79ff31eb69a86&ei=22 I wonder what the next action was when getting home ? Was any action taken to remove the stockpile ? http://www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?m=687603&v=e