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Thread Author: Manatee Replies: 42

 COP is a cop out. Who knew? - Manatee
George Monbiot has never been a favourite writer, but he's bang on with yesterday's article even if he is stating the exsanguinating obvious, that a economic system that only functions with exponential growth, and the mechanism of capitalism that sustains it, are unsustainable.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/30/capitalism-is-killing-the-planet-its-time-to-stop-buying-into-our-own-destruction?

I'm certain this dawned on me at least 50 years ago and possibly nearer 60, when I was still at school. Yet I'm not sure I've ever heard anybody in government articulate it.

I suppose I thought then that the grown ups must know something I didn't. We used to fear the oil running out, but we were reassured that there was plenty more to be found, and when there wasn't we would find something else. After all, we had 300 years of coal in the ground! Now we are saying we need to stop burning fossils long before they run out and I for one don't doubt that.

Monbiot says we urgently need to level down, not up. That "if we did all become millionaires, we would cook the planet in no time at all". Surely that is incontrovertible.

Yet nobody will get elected on a ticket of shrinking the economy and outlawing excess disposable wealth. So democracy must be unsustainable too. Perhaps we actually need a Chinese dictatorship to lead the way, but at the moment it looks as if they all want cars and regular foreign holidays too.

This isn't a matter of politics, or ideology. Just Mathematics, Physics, and Chemistry/Biology. It seems inescapable that the point at which governments can no longer ensure the basic safety and health of their citizens is not many generations away unless things change soon.

Our own government has in 2 years brought us to the point where I can't reliably find a chicken in Tesco. Chinese and Russian leaders aren't even attending COP26. What chance of dealing with this? Can somebody give me some hope? What have I missed?

A bit dark for a Sunday morning, I know.

 Messages Author Date
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Manatee 31 Oct 21 12:53
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Robin O'Reliant 31 Oct 21 13:13
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Bromptonaut 31 Oct 21 13:14
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 13:26
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Manatee 31 Oct 21 14:52
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 16:42
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Manatee 31 Oct 21 16:53
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 17:02
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new No FM2R 31 Oct 21 17:05
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 17:14
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new No FM2R 31 Oct 21 17:17
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Manatee 31 Oct 21 17:30
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 18:03
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new smokie 31 Oct 21 18:27
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Zero 31 Oct 21 18:31
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Zero 31 Oct 21 15:16
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new MD 31 Oct 21 15:06
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Zero 31 Oct 21 15:25
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Crankcase 31 Oct 21 15:28
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 31 Oct 21 15:51
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Terry 1 Nov 21 00:22
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new No FM2R 1 Nov 21 01:25
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Kevin 1 Nov 21 07:20
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Zero 1 Nov 21 08:22
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new henry k 1 Nov 21 14:51
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new sooty123 1 Nov 21 17:03
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new Bobby 2 Nov 21 21:04
 COP is a cop out. Who knew? new smokie 2 Nov 21 21:14
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new henry k 8 Nov 21 12:24
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Bromptonaut 8 Nov 21 12:29
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new zippy 8 Nov 21 13:50
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Terry 8 Nov 21 20:25
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new No FM2R 8 Nov 21 20:34
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Bromptonaut 8 Nov 21 21:00
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Zero 8 Nov 21 20:48
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Zero 8 Nov 21 20:49
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new sooty123 14 Nov 21 09:52
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Fursty Ferret 14 Nov 21 13:04
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Terry 14 Nov 21 14:53
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Lygonos 14 Nov 21 16:07
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new No FM2R 14 Nov 21 17:07
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new sooty123 14 Nov 21 17:37
 COP is a cop out. Who was there? new Terry 14 Nov 21 19:00
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